Comments on: UK Troops http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/09/19/uk-troops/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:32:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Bene Diction http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/09/19/uk-troops/#comment-2913 Bene Diction Thu, 23 Sep 2004 06:53:16 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=970#comment-2913 I agree there aren't 'official' stats Mark. The report to the Pentegon I linked to pointed that out. I don't credit all violence to the US account. If 'collateral damage' is offensive, or too military, fair enough, I can rephrase that. There are 10 thousand men women and children, combatant and non-combantant dead in Iraq. Whatever we 'call' them and 'whoever' killed them doesn't make them less dead.:^( I agree there aren’t ‘official’ stats Mark.

The report to the Pentegon I linked to pointed that out.
I don’t credit all violence to the US account.

If ‘collateral damage’ is offensive, or too military, fair enough, I can rephrase that.

There are 10 thousand men women and children, combatant and non-combantant dead in Iraq.

Whatever we ‘call’ them and ‘whoever’ killed them doesn’t make them less dead.:^(

]]> By: Mark Byron http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/09/19/uk-troops/#comment-2912 Mark Byron Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:24:02 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=970#comment-2912 The Iraqi Body Count site looks very interesting; however, I don't think all of it qualifies under the "Collateral damage" heading. Most of the deaths were inflicted by anti-US-coalition miliants, not by US/allied troops. If a US bomb hits non-combatants, that's collateral damage. If a jihidi blows up a police station, that's something else, unless you credit all violence to the US account. The Iraqi Body Count site looks very interesting; however, I don’t think all of it qualifies under the “Collateral damage” heading. Most of the deaths were inflicted by anti-US-coalition miliants, not by US/allied troops.

If a US bomb hits non-combatants, that’s collateral damage. If a jihidi blows up a police station, that’s something else, unless you credit all violence to the US account.

]]> By: Pieter Friedrich http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/09/19/uk-troops/#comment-2911 Pieter Friedrich Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:39:44 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=970#comment-2911 It seems a tad odd that they're reducing the number of British troops just as the head of the British Army says they're "still at war" and now fighting a "counter-insurgency war." It seems a tad odd that they’re reducing the number of British troops just as the head of the British Army says they’re “still at war” and now fighting a “counter-insurgency war.”

]]> By: Bene Diction http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/09/19/uk-troops/#comment-2910 Bene Diction Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:43:06 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=970#comment-2910 This is a grim statistic that is more verifiable. http://www.rsf.org/ British Military death statistics can be verified here. http://www.rsf.org/ Contractor deaths here. http://www.showmenews.com/2004/Jun/20040617News022.asp I haven't found NGO stats. This is a grim statistic that is more verifiable.
http://www.rsf.org/

British Military death statistics can be verified here.
http://www.rsf.org/

Contractor deaths here.
http://www.showmenews.com/2004/Jun/20040617News022.asp

I haven’t found NGO stats.

]]> By: Bene Diction http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/09/19/uk-troops/#comment-2909 Bene Diction Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:10:57 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=970#comment-2909 Here is one. http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ Here is one. http://www.hrw.org/press/2003/10/iraq102103.htm Here is one. http://www.refuseandresist.org/war/art.php?aid=816 Here is one. http://www.comw.org/pda/ Here is one. http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/7/3946 Here is one. http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/2003-invasion-of-Iraq-casualties And this article points out that the US military and the International Red Cross do not have a record of civilian deaths. http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/040927/usnews/27civilian.htm Its a reasonable question Mark, I know the military count made news at 1 thousand. According to some of these accounts X10 is too high, and for some, not high enough. I can't tell you how many of the X10 were armed opposition fighters. The site I linked to in the post also has a count of non-hostile deaths. Here is one.
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

Here is one.

http://www.hrw.org/press/2003/10/iraq102103.htm

Here is one.
http://www.refuseandresist.org/war/art.php?aid=816

Here is one.
http://www.comw.org/pda/

Here is one.
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/7/3946

Here is one.
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/2003-invasion-of-Iraq-casualties

And this article points out that the US military and the International Red Cross do not have a record of civilian deaths.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/040927/usnews/27civilian.htm

Its a reasonable question Mark, I know the military count made news at 1 thousand.
According to some of these accounts X10 is too high, and for some, not high enough.
I can’t tell you how many of the X10 were armed opposition fighters. The site I linked to in the post also has a count of non-hostile deaths.

]]> By: Mark Byron http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/09/19/uk-troops/#comment-2908 Mark Byron Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:46:46 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=970#comment-2908 What's your source for the 10X civilian deaths, and do those civilians include armed opposition fighters? What’s your source for the 10X civilian deaths, and do those civilians include armed opposition fighters?

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