Comments on: Special Forces getting ‘Special Bible” http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/12/09/special-forces-getting-special-bible/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:37:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Bene Diction http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/12/09/special-forces-getting-special-bible/#comment-3371 Bene Diction Sun, 12 Dec 2004 01:57:48 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=1121#comment-3371 Julie: Does the Defense Department pay publishers for other spiritual and sacred texts? As in some of the material Susan mentioned? Is the Torah or Koran published specially by your government in special ops colours? God forbid your troops are not offered spiritual comfort and nurturing. Julie:

Does the Defense Department pay publishers for other spiritual and sacred texts? As in some of the material Susan mentioned? Is the Torah or Koran published specially by your government in special ops colours?

God forbid your troops are not offered spiritual comfort and nurturing.

]]> By: Julie Anne Fidler http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/12/09/special-forces-getting-special-bible/#comment-3370 Julie Anne Fidler Sun, 12 Dec 2004 00:13:50 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=1121#comment-3370 You act as though the U.S. military ONLY gives out Bibles, which is not true. God forbid we should offer our troops some spiritual comfort and nurturing. Can't have THAT now. You act as though the U.S. military ONLY gives out Bibles, which is not true.

God forbid we should offer our troops some spiritual comfort and nurturing. Can’t have THAT now.

]]> By: Bene Diction http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/12/09/special-forces-getting-special-bible/#comment-3369 Bene Diction Sat, 11 Dec 2004 20:09:57 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=1121#comment-3369 Hi Ivan: I was criticised elsewhere for this viewpoint. Like you I have no problem with anyone being given scripture, there are enough private organizations able to provide it. Perhaps for many families a soliers bible is a treature. I'm not able to understand why it is okay for a government to use money in an elist/patriotic/religious way. And I think it is inappropriate for the publisher/printer to accept it. If the US and it's military had a dirth of bibles or a lack of private organizations willing to provide, okay. But to contract a special editing, printing for a small group on the taxpayers dime is sending a message in this stage in time that is rather ill-advised. There are over 4 thousand languages in the world. Translators are working in difficult conditions attempting to put these languages into written word. They are not receiving government money, nor are they asking for it. We really screw up priorities, don't we? Hi Ivan:

I was criticised elsewhere for this viewpoint.
Like you I have no problem with anyone being given scripture, there are enough private organizations able to provide it.

Perhaps for many families a soliers bible is a treature.
I’m not able to understand why it is okay for a government to use money in an elist/patriotic/religious way. And I think it is inappropriate for the publisher/printer to accept it. If the US and it’s military had a dirth of bibles or a lack of private organizations willing to provide, okay.
But to contract a special editing, printing for a small group on the taxpayers dime is sending a message in this stage in time that is rather ill-advised.

There are over 4 thousand languages in the world. Translators are working in difficult conditions attempting to put these languages into written word. They are not receiving government money, nor are they asking for it. We really screw up priorities, don’t we?

]]> By: Ivan The Crank http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/12/09/special-forces-getting-special-bible/#comment-3368 Ivan The Crank Sat, 11 Dec 2004 07:05:08 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=1121#comment-3368 My father was given a special prayer book for soldiers and a special Bible when he enlisted in the US Army in 1942, but neither was edited or paid for by the US government or specifically, the Department of the Defense. They were just distributed to all those who wished to have them. Maybe instead of spending money on special Bibles, they should spend more money on armor plating of the vehicles so that more can survive to read regular Bibles, maybe the ones given them by the Gideons? Just a couple thoughts. My father was given a special prayer book for soldiers and a special Bible when he enlisted in the US Army in 1942, but neither was edited or paid for by the US government or specifically, the Department of the Defense. They were just distributed to all those who wished to have them. Maybe instead of spending money on special Bibles, they should spend more money on armor plating of the vehicles so that more can survive to read regular Bibles, maybe the ones given them by the Gideons? Just a couple thoughts.

]]> By: Bene Diction http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/12/09/special-forces-getting-special-bible/#comment-3367 Bene Diction Fri, 10 Dec 2004 23:17:06 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=1121#comment-3367 Susan, I didn't know you worked for the Navy.:^) I've no problem agreeing to disagree. This is new to me, I was unaware the US government handed out contracts for special printings of scriptures. I still think special printings for special groups on the taxpayers dime is wrong.:^) Funky Dung: So, that's where the traffic is coming from. Blog on! Susan, I didn’t know you worked for the Navy.:^)

I’ve no problem agreeing to disagree.
This is new to me, I was unaware the US government handed out contracts for special printings of scriptures.
I still think special printings for special groups on the taxpayers dime is wrong.:^)

Funky Dung: So, that’s where the traffic is coming from. Blog on!

]]> By: susan b. http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/12/09/special-forces-getting-special-bible/#comment-3366 susan b. Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:43:03 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=1121#comment-3366 Bene, There's one thing I'd like to add. I work for the Navy. The command I used to work for before my current one was a school house, and outside the Chaplain's office there were free New Testament Bibles (along with free copies of the Koran and the Book of Mormon) available for the taking. There were also pamphlets about many different faiths such as Islam, Judaism and various Christian denominations. I think there were even some on Buddhism and Hinduism. So, what I'm saying here is this is nothing new and there is nothing objectionable about providing Scripture to Christian men and women in the military. I don't think it's blurring religion and state. Like I said, I can understand some of the arguments against this Bible, but I don't necessarily agree with them. Bene,

There’s one thing I’d like to add. I work for the Navy. The command I used to work for before my current one was a school house, and outside the Chaplain’s office there were free New Testament Bibles (along with free copies of the Koran and the Book of Mormon) available for the taking. There were also pamphlets about many different faiths such as Islam, Judaism and various Christian denominations. I think there were even some on Buddhism and Hinduism.

So, what I’m saying here is this is nothing new and there is nothing objectionable about providing Scripture to Christian men and women in the military. I don’t think it’s blurring religion and state.

Like I said, I can understand some of the arguments against this Bible, but I don’t necessarily agree with them.

]]> By: Funky Dung http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/12/09/special-forces-getting-special-bible/#comment-3365 Funky Dung Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:59:04 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=1121#comment-3365 You see Joe Carter's mention of you at the Evangelical Outpost? http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/archives/001066.html You see Joe Carter’s mention of you at the Evangelical Outpost?

http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/archives/001066.html

]]> By: Bene Diction http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/12/09/special-forces-getting-special-bible/#comment-3364 Bene Diction Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:56:52 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=1121#comment-3364 Wouldn't have occurred to me actually, that was Chuck's idea. There are a lot of cheap shots going around, aren't there about a lot of systemic and individual problems.:^) Wouldn’t have occurred to me actually, that was Chuck’s idea.
There are a lot of cheap shots going around, aren’t there about a lot of systemic and individual problems.:^)

]]> By: susan b. http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2004/12/09/special-forces-getting-special-bible/#comment-3363 susan b. Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:52:40 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=1121#comment-3363 I think it's a cheap shot to suggest the prisoner abuse picture as a possible cover for this Bible. There are legitimate arguments against this Bible (and you touched on a few), but trying to paint everybody who serves in the U.S. Army as an evil torturer, even in a "joking" manner, is pretty nasty and unfair. (I know it isn't you who made the suggestion...I'm just saying...) I think it’s a cheap shot to suggest the prisoner abuse picture as a possible cover for this Bible. There are legitimate arguments against this Bible (and you touched on a few), but trying to paint everybody who serves in the U.S. Army as an evil torturer, even in a “joking” manner, is pretty nasty and unfair. (I know it isn’t you who made the suggestion…I’m just saying…)

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