Comments on: Bill C-38 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2005/02/04/bill-c-38/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:16:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Lansford http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2005/02/04/bill-c-38/#comment-3837 Lansford Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:19:46 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=1226#comment-3837 I am appalled at how low we have come as a nation many people came to Canada because of what Canada was ,but because of politician searching for votes thats all going down the drain. If one chose to move to new land we must respect the laws of the land , but it seem whenever we have new imigrants we went for their vote and throw our young children with all kinds of immorality. Example (1)Some children canot hear the lords prayer it was deleted from our schools. I would like to point to the bible mainly LEVITICUS chapter 18 verse 22 Then turn to CHAPTER 20 verse 13 says it all. it plainly says that a man should not lay with another man as if he was a woman. Does our leaders really know the bible or do they really care. God help this Country . I surely pity the future generation of this once blessed Country. May God help us all I am appalled at how low we have come as a nation
many people came to Canada because of what Canada
was ,but because of politician searching for votes
thats all going down the drain. If one chose to move to new land we must respect the laws of the land , but it seem whenever we have new imigrants we went for their vote and throw our young children with all kinds of immorality. Example (1)Some children canot hear the lords prayer it was deleted from our schools. I would like to point to the bible mainly LEVITICUS chapter 18 verse 22 Then turn to CHAPTER 20 verse 13 says it all. it plainly says that a man should not lay with another man as if he was a woman. Does our leaders really know the bible or do they really care. God help this Country .
I surely pity the future generation of this once blessed Country.
May God help us all

]]> By: Bene Diction http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2005/02/04/bill-c-38/#comment-3836 Bene Diction Sat, 05 Feb 2005 02:37:44 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=1226#comment-3836 Michelle: No it is ia free vote. The difficulty comes with some Liberals. Ministers have to vote yes, it is the polical pressure being put on Lib back benchers. Do they cave in to party pressure? How busy the constiutents are letting their MP know what they want is hard to tell. We've had free votes before and the main scrambling and pressure has always been behind the scenes on the hill in the ruling party. Most of these politicans want to hang on to their jobs next election. For them that will require the machine of the party and some won't want to lose that. Mark: The polls vary, when asked most Canadian favour keeping tradition. I don't know that many polled understand the four years of this going through the courts or the role of the feds and the provinces. It's an emotional issue. I think we are going to have an economic backlash (in the short term at least) from the US if the legislation goes through. Since civil marriage is already accepted in Canada and evidence from the Netherlands and Belguim don't show the dire consequences predicted in the change of definition and US legislators don't understand the parlimentary system, I suspect there will be lots of noise. C'est la gere. Privacy laws with US companies in Canada are far more consequential to voters and our day to day lives. And I don't mind any one from the US commenting. I think most Canadians haven't an understanding of the hows and what of the process, and may be why you don't see a lot of people piling into the comments section. Michelle:
No it is ia free vote.
The difficulty comes with some Liberals. Ministers have to vote yes, it is the polical pressure being put on Lib back benchers. Do they cave in to party pressure? How busy the constiutents are letting their MP know what they want is hard to tell.

We’ve had free votes before and the main scrambling and pressure has always been behind the scenes on the hill in the ruling party.

Most of these politicans want to hang on to their jobs next election. For them that will require the machine of the party and some won’t want to lose that.

Mark:

The polls vary, when asked most Canadian favour keeping tradition. I don’t know that many polled understand the four years of this going through the courts or the role of the feds and the provinces. It’s an emotional issue.

I think we are going to have an economic backlash (in the short term at least) from the US if the legislation goes through.
Since civil marriage is already accepted in Canada and evidence from the Netherlands and Belguim don’t show the dire consequences predicted in the change of definition and US legislators don’t understand the parlimentary system, I suspect there will be lots of noise.
C’est la gere.

Privacy laws with US companies in Canada are far more consequential to voters and our day to day lives.

And I don’t mind any one from the US commenting.
I think most Canadians haven’t an understanding of the hows and what of the process, and may be why you don’t see a lot of people piling into the comments section.

]]> By: Michelle http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2005/02/04/bill-c-38/#comment-3835 Michelle Fri, 04 Feb 2005 23:32:43 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=1226#comment-3835 It disturbs me that this is not a "free vote," that MPs are to vote with their party. They are putting the parties ahead of what their constituents want and what Canadians want. Making it not a free vote makes a dictatorship in my view. It disturbs me that this is not a “free vote,” that MPs are to vote with their party. They are putting the parties ahead of what their constituents want and what Canadians want. Making it not a free vote makes a dictatorship in my view.

]]> By: Mark Byron http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2005/02/04/bill-c-38/#comment-3834 Mark Byron Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:30:28 +0000 http://ss75.shared.server-system.net/~benedictionblogson.com/?p=1226#comment-3834 I know you're nervous about American theocons getting messed up in Candadian politics, but I'd bet that the feelings about C-38 aren't being ginned up that much by Dobson; there'd be a native Canadian resistance even without it. The really interesting political part is "how 'free' is this vote for back-bencher Libs." Liberals from rural ridings that have voters that might be "red-state" in American parlance, having more traditional values are caught between their voters (and/or their own conscience) and party leadership. I know you’re nervous about American theocons getting messed up in Candadian politics, but I’d bet that the feelings about C-38 aren’t being ginned up that much by Dobson; there’d be a native Canadian resistance even without it.

The really interesting political part is “how ‘free’ is this vote for back-bencher Libs.” Liberals from rural ridings that have voters that might be “red-state” in American parlance, having more traditional values are caught between their voters (and/or their own conscience) and party leadership.

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