Joe Carter of the Evangelical Outpost has had an ongoing series of posts called ‘Know Your Evangelicals.’ I’ve found it interesting because I have not heard of most of them and wouldn’t know some of the more ‘famous’ ones if I tripped over them. It is not a world I live in or am a part of.
I had to laugh when Lunar Skeltons made up a google/search formula that rates Joe’s evangelicals on a mathematical heresy scale. He went to a lot of work to seemingly make a point not to take ourselves or our supposed leaders too seriously.

Michael Spencer, the Internet Monk wrote a piece that also shows me how far out of the evangelical loop I really am. His post is both satirical and serious as he talks about the reform movement. The theology went right over my head. It is not a world I live in or am a part of. But I can understand his final point.

Now a real, non-parodied, real life suggestion. Let’s talk about the ideas. Let’s talk about the scriptures. Let’s talk about the matters that affect what scripture teaches and how we take hold of it. Let’s have an on-going conversation. Let’s take the confessions seriously, and let’s live in our churches with integrity to the Gospel, but let’s not convince ourselves that our opponents are an insidious conspiracy of knaves faking Calvinism to take over the “tent.” Let’s not stifle writing, scholarly pursuit or the intellectual/spiritual journeys of those who aren’t like us in every way. You may not like the phrase, but “generous orthodoxy” still sounds like a great idea to me.

If I learn anything from reading posts like the above, it is about human nature and how we want to fit, be important, be right, be known, be heard. A few hours of wandering around god-blogs will give you a fairly good indication of our needs. They don’t differ from anyone elses.
I think that is why I like Real Life Preacher and many of his counterparts that are in my blogroll. Faith by it’s very nature is tenuous, while the God in whom we place that faith is not. I think we manage to mix that up.
We have a tremendous opportunity online to tell the story.
And when debate comes up, we have even more of an opportunity to respond with kindness, gentleness, goodness and civility. I wonder why so often we chose not to.

connexions:

Sharing in honest, respectful conversation with another of different opinion, or even different faith, does not amount to concession or weakness. Put aside any thoughts about “thin ends of wedges” or slippery slopes. In the world as it is, we need more understanding not less. And the best way to gain that understanding is in dialogue.

Dr. Mark Byron has been posting on why the US will never be a theocracy. All his reasons and logic on why that can’t happen are sound. But as I read it I know the logic and reasoning will not sooth the fears of those (not just secularists or democrats or liberals) who see the shifts, feel the coldness of fanaticism, the clout of power, feverish patriotism, the crush of wealth and the public demanding that helps foster the fear in the first place.

How easily one can be dismissed or feel foreign when wandering around the god-blogs. If our faith isn’t right, if our logic isn’t strong, if our world-view seems simplistic, if our allegiance isn’t to certain leaders or ideologies…

That I may know Him and the power of His resurrection. May I love the Lord my God with all my heart, mind, strength and love my neighbour as myself. May I do justice, love mercy and walk humbly before my God.
That’s all I want. I don’t want to make a list of known evangelicals. I don’t want to be on the leading edge of a movement, or have a PhD in apologetics.
I don’t want to prove anything, win debates or participate in flame wars. I don’t want to feel stupid because I’ve never read the top 100 christian classics.
We talk a lot about community in the Christian world. And some of us that talk the loudest work the hardest at shutting others out.
I don’t want to do that. So that makes me what? Liberal? Naive? A middle school thinker? Biblically illiterate?
Doesn’t matter.
Jesus loves me and that knowing has changed my life.
There are a lot of places I don’t fit in. He still loves me and the knowing of that love and the gratitude for it softens life’s blows, whether self or other inflicted.
How about you? Do you ever think or feel you don’t belong in the tent either?


6 Responses to “Muttering in the Evangelical Tent”

  1. 1 dh 

    Bene, that was a wonderful post. I do think there is a standard and while I don’t have a degree in apologetics I do value them and respect them.

    However, though, you are so right we can get sidetracked.

    I had a dream that correlates to what you are syaing in your post. Can I take the time I apologize if it is long.

    I had a dream of eating a steak. I typically cut the main portion and trim the meat from the bone first before eating the heart of the steak. God told me after this dream that while trimming the bone for more meat (glory) is good in that you receive more meat (glory) than otherwise, you miss out on the best tasting part of the steak. I have been spending my time trimming the bone for meat while others who don’t do this are stating that what I’m trimming is fat and I’m feeling condemned because I feel it is meat. (you get my drift) I need to take people away from the meat on the bone (for the time being) and onto the main part of the steak that is the best tasting. Once people are drawn to the steak by the taste then show them how to enjoy more steak by showing how to trim the steak.

    Bene, what do you think of my analogy that was actually a real live dream? I would be interested in what you think because God seems to be really speaking to me. If I wasn’t able to explain it very well could you post a question and I can clarify. (I’m not a very good writer) :) Love ya in the Lord, DH

  2. 2 Bene Diction 

    It wasn’t too long.
    What do I think of your dream?

    I know about live dreams. I don’t know what to say about them, I don’t know how to explain them.
    They scare me. They change me. They teach me. I can’t say I welcome them. I believe God can speak to you, cut right to the bone of your being any way He choses too.
    I believe God is very invested in trimming our lives. We taste His love and know it is good. And we have to share that. On Love’s terms, not ours.

    I think God loves you very much Doug, and He has plans for you and a road for you to walk. I think where ever that road takes you, you won’t be alone.
    Your dream makes me think of the parable of the feast.:^)

  3. 3 dh 

    It seemed that my dream was talking about how I share the Gospel. I spend my time (apologetics) trimming the bone for truth (which is good in that additional truth (God’s Truth) can be obtained). People say I’m eating fat (etc. from the dream) then I feel condemned because I feel it is meat.

    I then forget about the best tasting part Salvation from Jesus death and resurection. If I show them this first fully, then I can explain how to get more meat off the bone and how there is absolute Truth from God’s Word.

    The dream gave me insight in the story of milk and meat in relation to the Word from Paul’s epistles. Reading your post again gave me this additional insight. What do you think?

  4. 4 Bene Diction 

    Interesting.
    The parable of the feast is an invitation…good news.
    The milk and meat…are you referring to Hebrews 5: 12-14?
    That passage is directed at those who accepted the invitation.:^)
    Is the active verb…come!?

  5. 5 DH 

    Great point. I was referring to bothand your response made me think that Christ is telling me the importance of the feast first THEN the milk and meat of the Word. (not that God couldn’t use the Word to draw individuals to Himself, I hope you get my point I’m doing a bad job :) )

    If I share with people who do not know Him about the meat and how to eat it without them being at the Feast they will not understand the importance of the Good News or the importance of even being at the Feast in general.

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