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		<title>By: Hillary Clinton</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2006/05/25/child-abuse-on-the-religious-right-the-pearls/comment-page-1/#comment-43614</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary Clinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abortion is the ultimate child abuse.  A spanking once in a while when merited is not.  In fact, it might be child abuse to not spank a child in certain circumstances. At least, that is the way it is in my village.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abortion is the ultimate child abuse.  A spanking once in a while when merited is not.  In fact, it might be child abuse to not spank a child in certain circumstances. At least, that is the way it is in my village.</p>
<p>HC</p>
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		<title>By: h</title>
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		<dc:creator>h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OUCH! I just read a couple of their articles and I was SHOCKED! 

http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/index.php?id=72

Article called the abusive husband. 

She uses I Peter 3 saying that women need to just hush and take it!  Don&#039;t ask for help!  If you leave your marriage due to safety issues - your children will not be saved!  LOL she also says if you ignore it your kids will be JUST FINE!

Her husband added a page at the end:

But if your husband has sexually molested the children, you should approach him with it. If he is truly repentant (not just exposed) and is willing to seek counseling, you may feel comfortable giving him an opportunity to prove himself, as long as you know the children are safe. If there is any thought that they are not safe, or if he is not repentant and willing to seek help, then go to the law and have him arrested. Stick by him, but testify against him in court. Have him do about 10 to 20 years, and by the time he gets out, you will have raised the kids, and you can be waiting for him with open arms of forgiveness and restitution. Will this glorify God? Forever. You ask, &quot;What if he doesn’t repent even then?&quot; Then you will be rewarded in heaven equal to the martyrs, and God will have something to rub in the Devil’s face. 

I can&#039;t believe these people actually have a following!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OUCH! I just read a couple of their articles and I was SHOCKED! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/index.php?id=72" rel="nofollow">http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/index.php?id=72</a></p>
<p>Article called the abusive husband. </p>
<p>She uses I Peter 3 saying that women need to just hush and take it!  Don&#8217;t ask for help!  If you leave your marriage due to safety issues &#8211; your children will not be saved!  LOL she also says if you ignore it your kids will be JUST FINE!</p>
<p>Her husband added a page at the end:</p>
<p>But if your husband has sexually molested the children, you should approach him with it. If he is truly repentant (not just exposed) and is willing to seek counseling, you may feel comfortable giving him an opportunity to prove himself, as long as you know the children are safe. If there is any thought that they are not safe, or if he is not repentant and willing to seek help, then go to the law and have him arrested. Stick by him, but testify against him in court. Have him do about 10 to 20 years, and by the time he gets out, you will have raised the kids, and you can be waiting for him with open arms of forgiveness and restitution. Will this glorify God? Forever. You ask, &#8220;What if he doesn’t repent even then?&#8221; Then you will be rewarded in heaven equal to the martyrs, and God will have something to rub in the Devil’s face. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe these people actually have a following!</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Misty:

I doubt anyone feels bashed or criticized, they are adults.
I can&#039;t speak for everyone who has spoken up, if you are sorry people have been abused then condoning the Pearls methods isn&#039;t being sorry at all, it&#039;s buying into a pseudo-biblical money making scheme that has gotten the Pearls into trouble and will get them into trouble again.

How we treat the weakest members of our society speaks volumes about our love. The Pearls are extremists, falling on the far side of what you seem to think is liberalized parenting. 
Using peoples fears, and insecurities to make money and teach them wrong ideas about God is not something readers who have expressed themselves here care to tolerate. The Pearl&#039;s program is a cultural anomaly, and for the Pearls to disavow their extremism has anything to do with peoples difficulties is shameful and a sorry sight. 
So no, I doubt anyone here is prepared to re-evaluate this level of grandstanding extremism in God&#039;s name, nor would they feel criticized.

A child is dead.
More could die.

That&#039;s enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Misty:</p>
<p>I doubt anyone feels bashed or criticized, they are adults.<br />
I can&#8217;t speak for everyone who has spoken up, if you are sorry people have been abused then condoning the Pearls methods isn&#8217;t being sorry at all, it&#8217;s buying into a pseudo-biblical money making scheme that has gotten the Pearls into trouble and will get them into trouble again.</p>
<p>How we treat the weakest members of our society speaks volumes about our love. The Pearls are extremists, falling on the far side of what you seem to think is liberalized parenting.<br />
Using peoples fears, and insecurities to make money and teach them wrong ideas about God is not something readers who have expressed themselves here care to tolerate. The Pearl&#8217;s program is a cultural anomaly, and for the Pearls to disavow their extremism has anything to do with peoples difficulties is shameful and a sorry sight.<br />
So no, I doubt anyone here is prepared to re-evaluate this level of grandstanding extremism in God&#8217;s name, nor would they feel criticized.</p>
<p>A child is dead.<br />
More could die.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s enough.</p>
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		<title>By: misty</title>
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		<dc:creator>misty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off I want to say that I am very sorry to all of you who have been abused. That is most definitely not God&#039;s design or intent for anyone (child or adult) to have to experience. However, I must say that i do not agree with your oppinnions on the Pearls, or any other person&#039;s, take on spanking and discipline. I also find it interesting that while you are all more than happy to bash them and their ideas, you never mention any of your own about how to disciple children. I must say that it seems you have taken what has happened to you, universalized it, and completely unappropriately put it in the same category as loving discpline used in training up a child. Please know that I am not writing this to criticize you, just to ask you to please reevaluate and understand that spanking in order to correct and disciple a child is in NO WAY the same thing as the type of abuse you are mentioning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off I want to say that I am very sorry to all of you who have been abused. That is most definitely not God&#8217;s design or intent for anyone (child or adult) to have to experience. However, I must say that i do not agree with your oppinnions on the Pearls, or any other person&#8217;s, take on spanking and discipline. I also find it interesting that while you are all more than happy to bash them and their ideas, you never mention any of your own about how to disciple children. I must say that it seems you have taken what has happened to you, universalized it, and completely unappropriately put it in the same category as loving discpline used in training up a child. Please know that I am not writing this to criticize you, just to ask you to please reevaluate and understand that spanking in order to correct and disciple a child is in NO WAY the same thing as the type of abuse you are mentioning.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When God is on the equation you even can start a war like we have today.

Say no to any kind of religion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When God is on the equation you even can start a war like we have today.</p>
<p>Say no to any kind of religion!</p>
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		<title>By: beepbeepitsme</title>
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		<dc:creator>beepbeepitsme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: To Smack or not to Smack

Spare the Quarter - Inch Plumbing Supply Line, Spoil the Child 
http://beepbeepitsme.blogspot.com/2006/08/spare-quarter-inch-plumbing-supply.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: To Smack or not to Smack</p>
<p>Spare the Quarter &#8211; Inch Plumbing Supply Line, Spoil the Child<br />
<a href="http://beepbeepitsme.blogspot.com/2006/08/spare-quarter-inch-plumbing-supply.html" rel="nofollow">http://beepbeepitsme.blogspot.com/2006/08/spare-quarter-inch-plumbing-supply.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hitting a child (or indeed anybody) is a sign of weakness.  But often the weak don&#039;t like their weakness and try to turn it into a strength.  This is when they become tyrannical.

When people commit acts of violence out of weakness, it is possible to sympathise with them and to help them change.  But when people try to pretend that their weakness is a strength, it is hard to know what to do.  In feigning strength they have become inhuman - they have lost their capacities to love, to admit that they can be wrong, and to ask for help, and have therefore gone beyond our reach.

I saw an interesting film a while back, called Dogville.  The people in this film lived in a small village, and one day an outsider (played by Nicole Kidman) turned up.  Over time, the villagers started to abuse the outsider, out of weakness and ignorance masquerading as justice and concern.  

Eventually it turned out that the family of the abused character were in the mob.  When they came to find their daughter, their response to seeing her abuse was to kill everyone in the village.

Now, obviously, I do not think that we should kill anyone, including people who abuse their children.  But I think that some people have gone beyond our reach, and have to be written off.  In my wildest flights of fancy I wish that someone would come along and remove all of these people from the Earth - take away those who think that they can put things right with their own anger.  But this is also a weakness, and one that I must overcome.  Perhaps abusers of this sort can never be helped, but the best that we can do is to resist them and to lead by a better example.  

Unfortunately, in this particular case, the abuse is directed at children from behind closed doors.  This is shameful and sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hitting a child (or indeed anybody) is a sign of weakness.  But often the weak don&#8217;t like their weakness and try to turn it into a strength.  This is when they become tyrannical.</p>
<p>When people commit acts of violence out of weakness, it is possible to sympathise with them and to help them change.  But when people try to pretend that their weakness is a strength, it is hard to know what to do.  In feigning strength they have become inhuman &#8211; they have lost their capacities to love, to admit that they can be wrong, and to ask for help, and have therefore gone beyond our reach.</p>
<p>I saw an interesting film a while back, called Dogville.  The people in this film lived in a small village, and one day an outsider (played by Nicole Kidman) turned up.  Over time, the villagers started to abuse the outsider, out of weakness and ignorance masquerading as justice and concern.  </p>
<p>Eventually it turned out that the family of the abused character were in the mob.  When they came to find their daughter, their response to seeing her abuse was to kill everyone in the village.</p>
<p>Now, obviously, I do not think that we should kill anyone, including people who abuse their children.  But I think that some people have gone beyond our reach, and have to be written off.  In my wildest flights of fancy I wish that someone would come along and remove all of these people from the Earth &#8211; take away those who think that they can put things right with their own anger.  But this is also a weakness, and one that I must overcome.  Perhaps abusers of this sort can never be helped, but the best that we can do is to resist them and to lead by a better example.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, in this particular case, the abuse is directed at children from behind closed doors.  This is shameful and sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Bene Diction</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bene Diction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 14:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know where you are from RB, allow me to say this is not typical &#039;religious&#039; parenting for many of us all over the world, and indeed not even from the small corner of the US south the Pearls live in. 

Yes, religion can harm, I appreciate you speaking up with others including those of faith, those without, and those inbetween who know abuse and dysfunction when they read it or see it and step up to speak out against it.

It&#039;s pretty apparent the Pearls has the smarts to use the insecurity of others to make piles of money, he is unbalanced in every sense most of us understand that. If he wasn&#039;t using religion as his hook, he&#039;d probably use something else.

Fred Phelps and his family don&#039;t lack smarts either, do they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where you are from RB, allow me to say this is not typical &#8216;religious&#8217; parenting for many of us all over the world, and indeed not even from the small corner of the US south the Pearls live in. </p>
<p>Yes, religion can harm, I appreciate you speaking up with others including those of faith, those without, and those inbetween who know abuse and dysfunction when they read it or see it and step up to speak out against it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty apparent the Pearls has the smarts to use the insecurity of others to make piles of money, he is unbalanced in every sense most of us understand that. If he wasn&#8217;t using religion as his hook, he&#8217;d probably use something else.</p>
<p>Fred Phelps and his family don&#8217;t lack smarts either, do they?</p>
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		<title>By: rb</title>
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		<dc:creator>rb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 04:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is typical religious parenting...you can read all about religious parenting in any dysfunctional behavior book. Religion causes mental and emotional brain damage. Its a medical fact that religion is the ultimate terrorism and causes also genetic brain damage in religious families. 
Religion is the sickest thing we humans ever came up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is typical religious parenting&#8230;you can read all about religious parenting in any dysfunctional behavior book. Religion causes mental and emotional brain damage. Its a medical fact that religion is the ultimate terrorism and causes also genetic brain damage in religious families.<br />
Religion is the sickest thing we humans ever came up with.</p>
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		<title>By: Sojourn &#187; Spare the rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sojourn &#187; Spare the rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wasn&#039;t going to write about this issue, but haven&#039;t been able to get it out of my head since this morning&#039;s internet ramble with breakfast. I stumbled on a blog that linked to this site ironically called &quot;No Greater Joy&quot;. The site amongst other things, advocates for physical discipline of children as the biblically mandated parental role. Specifically, it mentions using flexible piping and &quot;switches&quot; as implements on children even under one year of age. It is promoted as a means of training children, to defeat their will. It disturbed me, as it obviously has many other bloggers out there - eg Benediction blogs on. It hit the media in the UK recently in response to their books being made available. You can read one of the media releases here. It saddens me deeply to see the Bible used in this way, and unfortunately the broader Christian body is so readily tarred with the same brush. There is no escaping the fact that children need firm, clear and consistent boundaries to grow. But they do not need physical abuse, and using the bible to justify dominating children through using switches and bits of plastic piping is abhorrent. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wasn&#39;t going to write about this issue, but haven&#39;t been able to get it out of my head since this morning&#39;s internet ramble with breakfast. I stumbled on a blog that linked to this site ironically called &quot;No Greater Joy&quot;. The site amongst other things, advocates for physical discipline of children as the biblically mandated parental role. Specifically, it mentions using flexible piping and &quot;switches&quot; as implements on children even under one year of age. It is promoted as a means of training children, to defeat their will. It disturbed me, as it obviously has many other bloggers out there &#8211; eg Benediction blogs on. It hit the media in the UK recently in response to their books being made available. You can read one of the media releases here. It saddens me deeply to see the Bible used in this way, and unfortunately the broader Christian body is so readily tarred with the same brush. There is no escaping the fact that children need firm, clear and consistent boundaries to grow. But they do not need physical abuse, and using the bible to justify dominating children through using switches and bits of plastic piping is abhorrent. [...]</p>
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