I’m not responsible for TulsaWorld archives – the link in the post to the reprint works.

Perhaps you can contact the original reporter at the newspaper. Knowing the Peterson’s personally must be difficult and I’m sorry for your shock. The story was written August 20, 2006 by Ziva Branstetter. The reprint was posted August 21st.

Don’t shoot the messenger here – if you have an update on the Petersen’s situation share it as you’ve shared your concerns for them.

A news and basic search as of today has understandably not brought up any updates.

While I am not a student of Carl’s or Vicki’s, I have just read her forward and editor’s note in the book “Intra-Muros” and found them to be of a sane and sound Christian mind.

I feel quite saddened to hear of both of their troubles and full heartedly pray for them.

I believe the criticizm’s on this web site are extremely harsh and not in the Biblical demeanor of which you seem to so proudly exude. I believe your spiritual mind is in your mind only. Pray for a more tender heart and compassion such as would be befitting of a child of God who calls himself a “Christian”.

May God forgive us all for our failure to really see “HIM” and to know “HIM”.

Marcia Maldonado

My personal experience of Vicki Jamison-Peterson in the 1980′s certainly did not include any of the tawdry nonsense which you have written. Perhaps you have reasons to try to misquote, or mis inform about the theology of others. Your own sanity and theological clarity many be in question.

Please examine your heart and look back on the Amish community with their example of foregiveness in September of 2006.

I am praying for your recovery and your return to sound scholarship. May you lose all the malice in your heart and heal all your wounds and scarifications.

albert

I didn’t find any updates in a quick overall search, the original story came out of the Tulsa World, I did a quick search there too.

If there is anything in religious media – like in house publications, I haven’t seen it.

This copy has his picture.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/NewsStory.asp?ID=060820_Ne_A1_DHSst18553

How old is this story and is there any update?

To decry doctrine based upon the personal experiences of a single or even group of ministers is misguided. One certainly should not throw away Baptist doctrine because there are a number of Baptist ministers in prison for sexual infidelities. Same should go for Word of Faith doctrine.

I think it’s logical to ask myself why the fruit is rotten.

Whatever your position, the Peterson’s story is tragic.

One of my points is that “faith theology” as it pertains to Jesus’s redemption is not new, but has actually been in the Church long beyond current theological thinking. It is not cult-based and actually is rather orthodox. Jesus actually becoming sin on the cross is well-supported scripturally. As Irenaeus put it, “how can we become incorruptible if incorruption did not put on corruption?” (paraphrase).

Acts 10:38 demonstrates that all sickness and disease that Jesus encountered in His earthly ministry was based, directly or indirectly, on the domination of Satan. There is no way to get around that in the Greek. That truth is also well-supported in scripture.

As to the “deification” of man, current writings have attempted to declassify man’s status from what Scripture declares. Going back to Ireneaus, if he was writing today, he would be classified by many as heretical. The last couple posts on my blog directly quote Irenaeus on these issues.

Many have criticized the “Faith Movement” for the dereliction of doctine of a few without actually examining whether the doctrines are scriptural for themselves. In actuality, they commit the same error as the ones they are criticizing.

Oral Roberts PR 101, Peter.
The Peterson’s is a tragic story, and while Ms. Peterson may well have had a productive ministry and life, I’d take the bio grandiose claims with the same grain of salt I take any Word of Faith claims.

As for Word of Faith doctrine, it did get pushed, and it is in in current form corrupt. It seems rather secondary that a movement may start off pure as the driven snow if it winds up where it is now.

I see the following:

1)positive confession yields results. Conversely negative confession yield results. Faith is worshipped.

2)We are deified, not God.

3) In deifying man, God is brought to our level. Some even go further into tritheism.

4) Calvary. There are four deviations I see:

Jesus took on the demonic on the cross
redemption was secured in hell
Jesus was reborn in hell
Jesus was reincarnated in hell, therefore, those born again can be reincarnated as well

5) I cannot on any level condone some of the behaviors embraced by this movement. Nor will I condone the the principles of prosperity and opulence and lack of accountability.

6)A lack of health is the devils fault.

In quoting Ms. Peterson’s biography it strikes me how much her ministry is about experience. While the claims are of faith, the experiential is given prominence.

This is not Christ centred theology or orthodoxy no matter how religious the words.

I had to look up recapitulation – I’m not a theology student, all I know of Iranaus is he argued against gnosticism. I’ll leave that discussion to my more learned friends in this thread.

My response concerned the “peculiar ideas” of faith theology. In my first comment, I point out that Irenaeus first wrote of recapitulation wherein Jesus was required to become “corruptible” so that we may become “incorruptible.” This doctrine formed the foundation of the early Church before the Arian Controversy. Consequently, it is nothing new and not the product of some metaphysical cult. Also, while some faith preachers might have pushed the envelope with some statements, that does not mean the doctrine is corrupt.

While some may not agree with Irenaeus or others, it is error to call the doctrine “heretical” or “corrupt.”