On your comment:
“Just one correction there BD, I didn’t find God, He found me. It always works that way. We can’t come to God unless He draws us.”

God had always been there. In our search for peace and comfort, we always want the illusion of romance, a lover that will find you and come to you.

But God is OMNIPRESENT. Wherever you go, God is already there, but it is us humans in our flesh that we are not aware of his presence.

And when we are finally together with him, in our free will, we go to him. He does not come to anyone because he is here. It is us to dwell in his presence.

On your statement:
“For some reason He chose to do that with me and I am forever thankful.”

There is something wrong with the way you perceive God here, but I cannot tell you the reason. You have to find that out yourself.

God do not practise favouritism. You are not the only one that God loves to do anything for you. Everybody has a share of his love.

Perhaps there is something bothering you in your life you seek comfort from the weariness of your everyday work, but please remember he is beside you always.

On your statement:
“It would be pointless to continue. Thanks for your input. Have a good night.”

You had been dealt with real hard facts. Some which are undisputable and difficult to swallow.

But I would like to share with you that, it is no longer about what is right or wrong, which sin is big or small; we are here to reconcile the reality of the world with the reality of God.

We are not here to judge. We are here to save souls.

PSALM 46:10 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society

10 “Be still, and know that I am God;
I will be exalted among the nations,
I will be exalted in the earth.”

The flip side of that, of course, is that our lives are all about choices we make, free will, that is. God has given us the guide book and if we truly want to know the way and surrender to Him, He will show us. He will set us free from the bondage to sin as we turn to Him.

And therein lies the great mystery, God’s sovereignty vs man’s free will. And one day we will all stand before Jesus Christ and give an account of our lives. The only thing that will matter then is what did we do for Him, while we had opportunity. That challenges me everyday. How did we glorify Him with our lives. That is my desire, to glorify God. I fall short way too often, but I also know and experience, without a doubt, His working in my life. He is an awesome God.

Thanks for your time and again, have a good night.

I will be glad to take him under the wings of Genesis. But he has to pay up a specific fee for the reparative therapy….

On a real note, I am really running a ministry called ‘Reflections’ for the LGT community. The blog space is not out. Will inform you when it is ready.

In the meantime, thanks for your compliment.

Thank you so much.

George is well known in blogging circles and has been copiously banned. He is a cop, a guy who has had his chin on the pavement with work and addiction, found God and is determined to serve Him.

George has worn down too many good, patient ministers and others online and sadly irritating even five point reformers. He has popped by for years here because I one of the few that haven’t banned him. I set boundaries, and I’ve had enough, he is free to talk to you, he’s hurt too many good people and I’m tired of prior abusive email. I’ve got to set boundaries from past experience and my own limitations.

Your knowledge is formidable, your testimony powerful, your maturity shines.  Would you link me to your ministry, I’d like to know more.

George, direct your discussion to YukiChoe.  
When you’ve had enough YukiChoe, say so and this comment thread will be closed

George, YukiChoe has extended you grace, step up and do likewise. 

I see that you done round two already. Thanks!

But I appeal to you, show these heterosexuals, love and compassion, and lead them to the truth of Christ Jesus.

Our ministry would be a fine place to start, I assure you.

Now, we would not want them to go to hell because they judged LGTs, or had been watching the Shakira Hips Don’t Lie MTV, do we? (Matthew 5:28)

Thanks.

I am not Bible thumping, I am just pointing out to George sometimes how we tend to use the Bible to validate our own personal value system.

In the Bible, punishement for ’sins’ like working on Sundays and disobeying parents, is equivalent to homosexuality… DEATH. Yet why the double standard?

Anyway : ), I belong to a Christian organization called Genesis. We are here to heal the sexual brokeness of those suffering from the sin of heterosexuality, people like Beyonce Knowles, and 50 cent.

You know, Christ HIMSELF do not condone heterosexual sinners. Yet everyday on MTV we see barely clothed women dancing super seductively and men talking about how they want to shag their next female conquest.

They must get into our reparative program to turn them into homosexuals. That way, they would only hold hands with their parters in the park at max, or stay closeted, or come out to sing songs about equality, diversity and love.

If we do not do someting, heterosexuals, especially those prominent ones, would be influencing hundreds of thousands of young children all over the world into gangsterism and sexual sins. Already young girls today are exposing waaaaaayyyy to much flesh, and young boys get killed by guns so easily these days.: )

“How do you know that YukiChoe?”

By FAITH. Anyway,

We already know we CANNOT JUDGE others.

Matthew 7: 1 - 2

We already know what are the GREATEST COMMANDMENTS.

Matthew 22: 36-40

Note verse 40: “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.

Ponder over it.

Again, I stress on what you said.

“Its all about truth, God’s truth”

And the truth is CHRIST HIMSELF, said nothing about homosexuality.

People only want what validates their own sense of self. God validates me. That is enough for me. Hope it is enough for you.

Matthew 19:9-12
1 Corinthians 7:1-2
I Corinthians 7:7-9
Revelation 14:1-5

And condones 8 types of marriage.

1) Genesis 2:24 - nuclear
2) Genesis 2: 24 - polygynous

Opps, no polyandrous mentioned

3) Genesis 38:6-10 - levirate

4) Genesis 16 man, wife, slave

5) Genesis 21 - man, wife, concubines

6) Numbers 31:1-18 - soldier and female prisoner of war - rape

7) Deuteronomy 22:28-29 male rapist and his victim

Exodus 21:4 male and female slave

And the last time your minister preached on Genesis 29 and 30? Another whole family arrangement.

The bible is completely silent on monogamous same sex relationships. This verses do not apply to that.

1) Homosexual rape (Genesis 19; Judges 19:14).
2) Homosexual ritual sex in Pagan temples — a religious taboo (Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13).
3) Homosexual prostitution (Deuteronomy 23:17; 1 Kings 14:24, 15:12, 22:46; 2 Kings 23:7).
4) Heterosexual men and women going against their basic nature and engaging in homosexual Pagan orgies (Romans 1:26).
5) Men who sexually molest boys — and the boys that they abuse (1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Timothy 1:9).
6) Bestiality: Men engaging in sex with males of another species — angels in this case (Jude 7).

Heterosexuals, bisexuals and homosexuals, all have the same three lifestyle options open to them in Canada - they can choose:

a) Celibacy: They can choose to remain sexually inactive, single, and not within a committed relationship. Friendships are sought, but sexual involvement is not a goal.
b) Sexually active single: They can choose to remain single (i.e. outside a committed relationship) and engage in sexual activity with one or more individuals.
c) Committed relationship: They try to find a loving partner of the same gender and enter into a committed, monogamous relationship. This can take a number of different forms: They can simply “live together” without registering their partnership with the government. They can register their partnership as a civil union, a marriage.

Now what the heck do we do about sexual ambiguity/intersex?
1% of live births around the world fall into that category.

Human rights issues are not contrary to scripture.
Want some human rights verses George?

Oh hey, never mind, let’s stick to sex and look at reparative, (conversion, reorientation) therapy shall we? 1 Corinthians 6:11

1978. Psychiatric study of Exodus. The percentage of clients with a homosexual orientation who became heterosexual, was under 0.4%.

1979. Masters and Johnson claimed an impressive conversion rate of 50 to 60%. They didn’t study homosexuals though, 93% were bi, and orientation was not studied, only certain behaviors.

1997. NARTH 860 clients, not one bit of data was released on changed orientation

2001. Dr, Robert Spitzer - 143 ex-gays and 57 ex-lesbians
followup: You would not be at all comfortable with the empirical data, George.

2001. Schroeder and Shidlo - 88% of subjects failed to achieve a sustained change in their sexual behavior.
4% reported changing their orientation to heterosexual.
9% reported either losing all sex drive or continuing to struggle to remain celibate.
Check this one out, further analysis is even more bleak.

There are others, knock yourself out.

The American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality from its list of mental illnesses in 1973. The American Psychological Association followed suit in 1975; the National Association of Social Workers in 1977; the National Psychoanalytic Association finally followed suit in 1991, stating that homosexuality was not a disorder. The American Academy of Pediatrics, American Counseling Association, American Association of School Administrators, American Federation of Teachers, American Psychological Association, American School Health Association, Interfaith Alliance Foundation, National Association of School Psychologists, National Association of Social Workers, and National Education Association strongly reject reparative therapy.

Respondents of reparative therapy reported being left in a poor mental and emotional state after the therapy, and that rates of depression, anxiety, alcohol and drug abuse and suicidal feelings were roughly doubled in those who underwent reparative therapy. Of particular concern was the lack of support given by reparative therapists and counselors to those who found their program to be contributing to psychological distress.”

No consensus exists on the safety, effectiveness, and possible adverse consequences of conversion therapies at this time. We urge extreme caution.

None of the conservative christians promoting reparative therapy have to be licenced btw.

Lets look at the FBI stats on crimes on person and property of GLBT - one in four men and one in eight women.
You are the Canadian cop, what are the crimes against GLBT stats for Canada?

Here is a test professionally designed to identify homophobia. How did you do?

That was a splendid bible thumping.
Applause.
Well done!
Do have another go.

While you do round 2 - fisty cuffs with a fundy, I’m off to look up everyone of those bible verses. Finish him off, no point in any of us pretending George gives a damn about a single thing you said.;^)