Learning and talking about the SPP is important, I don’t think this has taken people ‘away’ from one issue to another, both are important.

People won’t be able to hold protests if police are permitted to keep escalating this kind of discrediting behavior.

I don’t think in this case the Quebec police were this intelligent, it’s about power, if groups (including paramilitary such as police) can take it they will.
In a democracy we have the responsibility not to give it to them. See what I wrote earlier about plausible deniability.

I hear what you are saying - I don’t think it is either/or, it’s both/and.

Thanks for the blow ups, I don’t have the equipment to clarify the pictures, but the suggestion it is a Corona bottle might as well be put out. I went looking - Corona has a white label and the same neck on the bottle.

If we’re wrong, we’re wrong, I have no problem with wrong being my default position.:^)

Savard can’t even keep his story straight: first, a protester gave the cop a rock, then, almost in the same breath, the cop carried the rock to blend in.

I see a lot of plastic waterbottles on protests, but rarely if ever a glass one–and in a back pocket? Wow. The press haven’t picked up on this yet, but it seems that gifts were simply showered on these undercovers.

Keep up the good work, by the way.

“Dozens more tear gas canisters exploded as the crowd began retreating east toward the village. In response, protesters in gas masks, goggles, and balaclavas hurled rocks, tomatoes, and stone-filled bottles at the police, who blocked Highway 148 and an adjacent cemetery.

Two large bonfires in the middle of the street burned as the protest’s last vestiges withdrew into Montebello.”

It’s completely reasonable to believe the undercover officer was thirsty and put the empy bottle in his back pocket if there were no trash cans available.

Or are we going to hear a protester gave him the bottle to fill with stones to throw at police?

“One of extremists gave the rock to one of our police officers and he had a choice to make Saravrd said. He was asked by the extremists to throw the rock at the police but never had any intention of using it.”

How dumb do they think we are?