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	<title>Comments on: The seasons of our life - worship &#8220;I don&#8217;t need a cheerleader&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deck 9 doctor, respond at once, I think we have a stuffy person.:^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deck 9 doctor, respond at once, I think we have a stuffy person.:^)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Byron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Byron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Please state the nature of the theological emergency" :-)

The Matt Redman stuff I've heard over the years tends towards the reflective; I've not known his stuff to be get-up-and-dance stuff. He even references indirectly your Ecclesiastes 3 quote in &lt;i&gt;Let My Words Be Few&lt;/i&gt;, one of my favorite songs of the praise genre; &lt;i&gt;The Heart of Worship&lt;/i&gt; is another rather reflective song.

One of the reasons I'm in a Baptist church at present (one with a music rotation with a charismatic feel, however) is that I'm not a dance-in-the-aisles, everybody-raise-their-hands guy. I may lean towards the charismatic in theology, but am a Baptist stick-in-the-mud  (well, a Methodist-raised-turned-Baptist) in temperment. You might be in a similar boat regarding high-octane worship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Please state the nature of the theological emergency&#8221; <img src='http://www.benedictionblogson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
The Matt Redman stuff I&#8217;ve heard over the years tends towards the reflective; I&#8217;ve not known his stuff to be get-up-and-dance stuff. He even references indirectly your Ecclesiastes 3 quote in <i>Let My Words Be Few</i>, one of my favorite songs of the praise genre; <i>The Heart of Worship</i> is another rather reflective song.</p>
<p>One of the reasons I&#8217;m in a Baptist church at present (one with a music rotation with a charismatic feel, however) is that I&#8217;m not a dance-in-the-aisles, everybody-raise-their-hands guy. I may lean towards the charismatic in theology, but am a Baptist stick-in-the-mud  (well, a Methodist-raised-turned-Baptist) in temperment. You might be in a similar boat regarding high-octane worship.</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>arr arrr arrr! Or the hologram doctor in the Star Trek series.:^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arr arrr arrr! Or the hologram doctor in the Star Trek series.:^)</p>
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		<title>By: ganns</title>
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		<dc:creator>ganns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I’m terribly stuffy, I started classical music training when I was six, and grew up learning Bach et al, and didn’t have the time my peers had to immerse myself in contemporary influences. It caused me no end of embarrassment growing up.:^)"

LOL You remind me of Frasier Crane!

Thanks for this again. 'Til next post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m terribly stuffy, I started classical music training when I was six, and grew up learning Bach et al, and didn’t have the time my peers had to immerse myself in contemporary influences. It caused me no end of embarrassment growing up.:^)&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL You remind me of Frasier Crane!</p>
<p>Thanks for this again. &#8216;Til next post.</p>
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		<title>By: Bene Diction</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bene Diction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the season of the cheerleader can be healthy for most people too, Ganns.  
My season didn't last long though, I've never figured out why. It is interesting and encouraging that so many people are learning the importance of moving through initial influences.

I've certainly interviewed my share of CCM types and understood it was just a business, the people involved no different than those in any other genre. Just as tired, just as hard working, just as creative, just as driven, just as bottom line, a bit more subject to censure...

I'm terribly stuffy, I started classical music training when I was six, and grew up learning Bach et al, and didn't have the time my peers had to immerse myself in contemporary influences. It caused me no end of embarrassment growing up.:^)

If you gave me a choice between Hillsong and The Prayer Cycle for contemporay religious listening choices, I'd last five minutes with Hillsong. I'd play The Prayer Cyle over several times, happily rapturous.
Complex harmonies require a group of people working as one.
That is part of worship to me.

Music choice is subjective, which is why being exposed to the widest variety possible is something to be encouraged.

Silence and stillness bring relationship for me, much like a musical rest is part of it's whole.

Blog on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the season of the cheerleader can be healthy for most people too, Ganns.<br />
My season didn&#8217;t last long though, I&#8217;ve never figured out why. It is interesting and encouraging that so many people are learning the importance of moving through initial influences.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve certainly interviewed my share of CCM types and understood it was just a business, the people involved no different than those in any other genre. Just as tired, just as hard working, just as creative, just as driven, just as bottom line, a bit more subject to censure&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m terribly stuffy, I started classical music training when I was six, and grew up learning Bach et al, and didn&#8217;t have the time my peers had to immerse myself in contemporary influences. It caused me no end of embarrassment growing up.:^)</p>
<p>If you gave me a choice between Hillsong and The Prayer Cycle for contemporay religious listening choices, I&#8217;d last five minutes with Hillsong. I&#8217;d play The Prayer Cyle over several times, happily rapturous.<br />
Complex harmonies require a group of people working as one.<br />
That is part of worship to me.</p>
<p>Music choice is subjective, which is why being exposed to the widest variety possible is something to be encouraged.</p>
<p>Silence and stillness bring relationship for me, much like a musical rest is part of it&#8217;s whole.</p>
<p>Blog on!</p>
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		<title>By: ganns</title>
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		<dc:creator>ganns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear BD:

Every Christian worships God in his or her own special way. It allows for our own individual experiences of and with God. Like you said, there will be persons who will enjoy 'the season of the cheerleader,' the rowdier types of praise music, and there will be persons who will move past that into... well, what you call the 'tradition of the saints.'

I think that that participatory praise - i.e., the season of the cheerleader - can be healthy. A joyous praise celebration can be an opportunity to enjoy being part of a church coming together to worship. Cheerleader present or not, praise - the kind that led King David to dance the way he did - of God can be expressed in its most solemn and reverent or exuberantly unrestrained forms.

In the Philippines, it is interesting to note - and I am sure radio requests and sales figures will back me up 100% - that worship music for most evangelical Christians here equals Hillsong Music Australia. While there's certainly nothing wrong with the music of Hillsong (and its louder spin-off, Hillsong United), there will be those of us in the industry who want to ask: "Don't you want to hear something else?" (The one time I succeeded in getting "Total Praise" (Avalon) added to our worship roster was for a special number, but, boy, was it something! I praise God for that - the harmonies were straight from heaven.)

I personally am drawn to worship music that finds its excellence in soaring harmonies. Whether it is the Afro-American sound of groups led by Israel Houghton, Kirk Franklin, or Joe Pace, or the sweet vocal harmonies of the men and women of Avalon, Point of Grace, or Take 6, or even the angelic voices of many of the boy's choirs out there, or the hallowed voices of the Benedictine Monks, as long as there are harmonies, that's enough for me to focus on the Father. Silence doesn't work for me; I'm just not at that point at which you are. Maybe I'll get there in a few years, kinda like how I somehow drifted from Top 40 to Adult Contemporary to CCM Adult Contemporary in a short matter of time.

I guess at the end of the day, whatever music brings us into a state where we can give God, as you put it, 'ardent or adoring esteem or devotion,' that's all that matters. Thanks for the thought-provoking piece and the opportunity to add to the discussion.

Be superblessed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear BD:</p>
<p>Every Christian worships God in his or her own special way. It allows for our own individual experiences of and with God. Like you said, there will be persons who will enjoy &#8216;the season of the cheerleader,&#8217; the rowdier types of praise music, and there will be persons who will move past that into&#8230; well, what you call the &#8216;tradition of the saints.&#8217;</p>
<p>I think that that participatory praise - i.e., the season of the cheerleader - can be healthy. A joyous praise celebration can be an opportunity to enjoy being part of a church coming together to worship. Cheerleader present or not, praise - the kind that led King David to dance the way he did - of God can be expressed in its most solemn and reverent or exuberantly unrestrained forms.</p>
<p>In the Philippines, it is interesting to note - and I am sure radio requests and sales figures will back me up 100% - that worship music for most evangelical Christians here equals Hillsong Music Australia. While there&#8217;s certainly nothing wrong with the music of Hillsong (and its louder spin-off, Hillsong United), there will be those of us in the industry who want to ask: &#8220;Don&#8217;t you want to hear something else?&#8221; (The one time I succeeded in getting &#8220;Total Praise&#8221; (Avalon) added to our worship roster was for a special number, but, boy, was it something! I praise God for that - the harmonies were straight from heaven.)</p>
<p>I personally am drawn to worship music that finds its excellence in soaring harmonies. Whether it is the Afro-American sound of groups led by Israel Houghton, Kirk Franklin, or Joe Pace, or the sweet vocal harmonies of the men and women of Avalon, Point of Grace, or Take 6, or even the angelic voices of many of the boy&#8217;s choirs out there, or the hallowed voices of the Benedictine Monks, as long as there are harmonies, that&#8217;s enough for me to focus on the Father. Silence doesn&#8217;t work for me; I&#8217;m just not at that point at which you are. Maybe I&#8217;ll get there in a few years, kinda like how I somehow drifted from Top 40 to Adult Contemporary to CCM Adult Contemporary in a short matter of time.</p>
<p>I guess at the end of the day, whatever music brings us into a state where we can give God, as you put it, &#8216;ardent or adoring esteem or devotion,&#8217; that&#8217;s all that matters. Thanks for the thought-provoking piece and the opportunity to add to the discussion.</p>
<p>Be superblessed!</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 02:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BD-
An excellent post. I just finished mine for today and I realized as I read this that I was actually heading in the same direction. The other thing I dislike about the "cheerleaders" in local congregational settings is the interminable announcements. Trying to convince people who aren't interested to attend something that doesn't strike them as interesting. Rah-rah-go team go!

Barry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BD-<br />
An excellent post. I just finished mine for today and I realized as I read this that I was actually heading in the same direction. The other thing I dislike about the &#8220;cheerleaders&#8221; in local congregational settings is the interminable announcements. Trying to convince people who aren&#8217;t interested to attend something that doesn&#8217;t strike them as interesting. Rah-rah-go team go!</p>
<p>Barry</p>
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