If you are an apologist for long time systemic personal ethics issues in an organization, fine.
Scolding others because they aren’t slides closely tantamount to saying you agree with mismangement and deceit. Many people invoved in ‘diatribes’ have seen others deeply hurt by loose cannon ‘ministries.’

If the ministry you worked for was ethical in it’s dealings, great.
Let’s not be niave and assume all are just because they call themselves ministries. Religion is a con artists haven.

re: Grassley request:
The Word of Faith/prosperity individuals being asked to provide to the senate committee are being asked to do so under US tax law. The Evangelical finance accountability organization was set up several years ago precisely because there would be charlatans who think they are above everyone else, and it was done to prevent government scrutiny.

None asked for statements are willing to be accountable to their own, or the government. Crying victim and blaming others or whining about one watchdog group ‘out to get them’ is disengenous, either they are compliant with the tax code or they aren’t.

Few people are going to waste any angst on organizations that that are unilling to manage their organizations with integrity, responsibility and appropriate public transparency.

I completely agree. Let’s be fair.
Identify the bad apples and assist them to desist law breaking shortcomings, and let healthy responsible ministry organizations carry on.

Many businessmen and others are totally committed to these ministries because of intervention and support provided by these ministries in their time of need. Illness, alcoholism, drugs had robbed many of their fortunes and dignity, but their lifes were changed by the power of God through these ministries. Their ongoing support is their way of showing their gratitude.

You insinuate that these ministries are in some way immoral or unethical by refusal to submit to these audits (harrasment) - an witch hunt that is totally illegal. There is no legislation that requires them to do so, and they (as a group) have broken no laws.

There may be individual personal ethics issues, but until laws are broken, keep the govt. out, and the diatribe a little more restrained.

Here’s a link to two messages on the issue:
http://www.kcc.net/All/Other/Hear-our-Sermons.html

Lets at least be fair

3 of the six businesses that have been asked to supply the Senate committee with relevant financial statments sit on the ORU board.
That it is an issue of public trust is of no consequence to them.
Kenneth Copeland is openly defiant, Creflo Dollar is attempting to say he is standing up for the little churches.
From Achievable Ends:

“They will hide behind the First Amendment and try to draw legitimate ministries into the fray on their behalf with worries of government interference in the life of the Church - in direct contravention of the First Amendment. The separation of church and state card has been well played by these folk before. It’s being played again.”

Fine.
Then let churches, individuals, government and the courts step forward and review tax codes and laws to address ministry business excess and fraud.