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	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sylvain Racine</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/02/28/chuck-cadman-conservative-million-dollar-man/#comment-100165</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvain Racine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And we forgot to mention that after the Libs, the Cons will be wiped off the Quebec's map. So the Bloc Quebecois will get strongly back on track as well as the separatism movement. 

The real irony is if the Libs and the Cons are having problems it is because they both try to get elected in promising to keep Quebec with in Canada. Let me tell you that all that is very entertaining for Quebeckers, either for separatists or not, especially because the non-separatists want to stay in Canada for only one reason; the fear to loose money, (ie, pension, jobs, etc.)

Trust me, I am separatist, but the ROC would have better hate the Quebeckers who don't want to separate like Dion, Chretien, Chuck Guite, etc.

Yes, the next few months will be fun. Get ready for elections. Dion is so dead in Quebec since he agreed with extending the military mission in Afghanistan till 2011 ( he was politically death even before in Quebec).

Anyway, I want to tell the ROC how I am sorry for all Canadians who just want a functional country. Since 1981, it's been quite pathetic and sad. You should definitely get rid of Quebec before it is too late!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And we forgot to mention that after the Libs, the Cons will be wiped off the Quebec&#8217;s map. So the Bloc Quebecois will get strongly back on track as well as the separatism movement. </p>
<p>The real irony is if the Libs and the Cons are having problems it is because they both try to get elected in promising to keep Quebec with in Canada. Let me tell you that all that is very entertaining for Quebeckers, either for separatists or not, especially because the non-separatists want to stay in Canada for only one reason; the fear to loose money, (ie, pension, jobs, etc.)</p>
<p>Trust me, I am separatist, but the ROC would have better hate the Quebeckers who don&#8217;t want to separate like Dion, Chretien, Chuck Guite, etc.</p>
<p>Yes, the next few months will be fun. Get ready for elections. Dion is so dead in Quebec since he agreed with extending the military mission in Afghanistan till 2011 ( he was politically death even before in Quebec).</p>
<p>Anyway, I want to tell the ROC how I am sorry for all Canadians who just want a functional country. Since 1981, it&#8217;s been quite pathetic and sad. You should definitely get rid of Quebec before it is too late!</p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/02/28/chuck-cadman-conservative-million-dollar-man/#comment-100107</link>
		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The insurance policy argument is a none starter.

Here is Ralph Goodale (G&#38;M)

"Under the existing parliamentary life insurance plan, if members cease to be MPs they can keep their insurance but the premiums go up and the benefits go down," Mr. Goodale said. "Did the Conservatives offer to make up that difference in exchange for Mr. Cadman's vote? Was that the offer?"

There would be no need for a medical or review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The insurance policy argument is a none starter.</p>
<p>Here is Ralph Goodale (G&amp;M)</p>
<p>&#8220;Under the existing parliamentary life insurance plan, if members cease to be MPs they can keep their insurance but the premiums go up and the benefits go down,&#8221; Mr. Goodale said. &#8220;Did the Conservatives offer to make up that difference in exchange for Mr. Cadman&#8217;s vote? Was that the offer?&#8221;</p>
<p>There would be no need for a medical or review.</p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/02/28/chuck-cadman-conservative-million-dollar-man/#comment-100104</link>
		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
 Yahoo News: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080228/national/harper_cadman_offer_2

-In 2005, a prospective Conservative candidate in Ottawa claimed he'd been offered $50,000 for expenses to make way for a star Tory candidate. Harper publicly denied there was a deal, but a subsequent court case vindicated Allan Riddell's claim. 

-In May 2005, Conservative MP Gurmant Grewal claimed he was offered a Liberal sinecure abroad or a Senate seat for his wife in return for scratching his budget vote. Grewal secretly taped the negotiations with then prime minister Paul Martin's chief of staff and Liberal cabinet minister Ujjal Dosanjh. An ethics inquiry ended up rebuking Grewal. 

-Conservative MP Belinda Stronach crossed the Commons floor on May 17, 2005, in return for a seat in Martin's Liberal cabinet. Her vote, along with Cadman's, helped the Liberal minority survive for another half year. 

-Freshly elected Liberal MP David Emerson abandoned the Liberals two weeks after the Jan. 23, 2006, election in return for a seat in Harper's Conservative cabinet. 

-Ottawa Mayor Larry O'Brien is currently facing two counts of influence peddling involving allegations he dangled cash and a federal appointment to induce a fellow candidate to quit the municipal race in the fall of 2006. Terry Kilrea did quit, but did not accept the alleged offer. Conservative officials, including cabinet minister John Baird, insist no federal appointment was ever discussed or offered. 

- Elections Canada looked into 1 million funnelled by the CP. The party says it didn't do it, Elections Canada says they did</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo News: <a href="http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080228/national/harper_cadman_offer_2" rel="nofollow">http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080228/national/harper_cadman_offer_2</a></p>
<p>-In 2005, a prospective Conservative candidate in Ottawa claimed he&#8217;d been offered $50,000 for expenses to make way for a star Tory candidate. Harper publicly denied there was a deal, but a subsequent court case vindicated Allan Riddell&#8217;s claim. </p>
<p>-In May 2005, Conservative MP Gurmant Grewal claimed he was offered a Liberal sinecure abroad or a Senate seat for his wife in return for scratching his budget vote. Grewal secretly taped the negotiations with then prime minister Paul Martin&#8217;s chief of staff and Liberal cabinet minister Ujjal Dosanjh. An ethics inquiry ended up rebuking Grewal. </p>
<p>-Conservative MP Belinda Stronach crossed the Commons floor on May 17, 2005, in return for a seat in Martin&#8217;s Liberal cabinet. Her vote, along with Cadman&#8217;s, helped the Liberal minority survive for another half year. </p>
<p>-Freshly elected Liberal MP David Emerson abandoned the Liberals two weeks after the Jan. 23, 2006, election in return for a seat in Harper&#8217;s Conservative cabinet. </p>
<p>-Ottawa Mayor Larry O&#8217;Brien is currently facing two counts of influence peddling involving allegations he dangled cash and a federal appointment to induce a fellow candidate to quit the municipal race in the fall of 2006. Terry Kilrea did quit, but did not accept the alleged offer. Conservative officials, including cabinet minister John Baird, insist no federal appointment was ever discussed or offered. </p>
<p>- Elections Canada looked into 1 million funnelled by the CP. The party says it didn&#8217;t do it, Elections Canada says they did</p>
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		<title>By: Sherm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I understand the first part of your post correctly basically what (Senator in waiting) Mike Duffy is saying is that Chuck Cadman voted for the budget in order to protect his family and keep his MP life insurance policy.

That means that Duffy is suggesting that one man refused to bring down the government because his family came first?  That he put 30 million Canadians on the back burner?

I think Duffy needs to find another job.  Either that or Mr. Cadman was one of the sleeziest MP's we ever had.

The conservative spin will make him out to be the latter.  This government will stop at nothing to further their agenda and protect their precious and wealthy butts.

So they offered him 1 million to bring down the government (knowing he would probably lose his seat as an MP and that he was dying) because they were benevolent?   Malevolent is more like it.

This man's legacy may well be tarnished because the money and power is with the Cons.   

Guess I am cynical too.  Harper scores again.  Score - Harper 50 , Canadians 0.   When are we going to take down Harper and his team?   They have done a lot of damage in two years.

Good call kerouac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I understand the first part of your post correctly basically what (Senator in waiting) Mike Duffy is saying is that Chuck Cadman voted for the budget in order to protect his family and keep his MP life insurance policy.</p>
<p>That means that Duffy is suggesting that one man refused to bring down the government because his family came first?  That he put 30 million Canadians on the back burner?</p>
<p>I think Duffy needs to find another job.  Either that or Mr. Cadman was one of the sleeziest MP&#8217;s we ever had.</p>
<p>The conservative spin will make him out to be the latter.  This government will stop at nothing to further their agenda and protect their precious and wealthy butts.</p>
<p>So they offered him 1 million to bring down the government (knowing he would probably lose his seat as an MP and that he was dying) because they were benevolent?   Malevolent is more like it.</p>
<p>This man&#8217;s legacy may well be tarnished because the money and power is with the Cons.   </p>
<p>Guess I am cynical too.  Harper scores again.  Score - Harper 50 , Canadians 0.   When are we going to take down Harper and his team?   They have done a lot of damage in two years.</p>
<p>Good call kerouac.</p>
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		<title>By: [rhymes with kerouac]</title>
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		<dc:creator>[rhymes with kerouac]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Cadman, Conservatives and connecting the dots at Bene Diction Blogs On</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/02/28/chuck-cadman-conservative-million-dollar-man/#comment-100047</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Cadman, Conservatives and connecting the dots at Bene Diction Blogs On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] turn it down he did. The statement released by operatives Finley and Flanagan is in my previous post,  as is Dona Cadmans interview; as is the question were is What does Dan Wallace, Chuck Cadman’s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] turn it down he did. The statement released by operatives Finley and Flanagan is in my previous post,  as is Dona Cadmans interview; as is the question were is What does Dan Wallace, Chuck Cadman’s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/02/28/chuck-cadman-conservative-million-dollar-man/#comment-100027</link>
		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot that the book will pre-sell very well and shoot to the top of the best-seller list.
The Raptor's star player will break something, the Olympic committee will never ever let women ski jumpers jump; we'll get 3 more metres of snow before March 21st, Rick Mercer will sign a movie deal with Warner Brothers and the ethics committee will pass the buck.

In the interest of transparency there will be a public inquiry that will run for 18 months, cost taxpayers millions of dollars, be handsomely bound and so worded that anyone wading through it will need a long vacation and clorohydrate.

By then have several more political outrages behind us and will have forgotten which one this is.

Or I might be cynical too.

The story here isn't that influence peddling went on, the deeper story is that Chuck Cadman's do exist in our politics.
We forget people of conviction come along who just won't be bought.
I think in this case, all the political squawking in the world isn't going to diminish his character and what he chose to stand up for, and that's nothing to be cynical about.:^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot that the book will pre-sell very well and shoot to the top of the best-seller list.<br />
The Raptor&#8217;s star player will break something, the Olympic committee will never ever let women ski jumpers jump; we&#8217;ll get 3 more metres of snow before March 21st, Rick Mercer will sign a movie deal with Warner Brothers and the ethics committee will pass the buck.</p>
<p>In the interest of transparency there will be a public inquiry that will run for 18 months, cost taxpayers millions of dollars, be handsomely bound and so worded that anyone wading through it will need a long vacation and clorohydrate.</p>
<p>By then have several more political outrages behind us and will have forgotten which one this is.</p>
<p>Or I might be cynical too.</p>
<p>The story here isn&#8217;t that influence peddling went on, the deeper story is that Chuck Cadman&#8217;s do exist in our politics.<br />
We forget people of conviction come along who just won&#8217;t be bought.<br />
I think in this case, all the political squawking in the world isn&#8217;t going to diminish his character and what he chose to stand up for, and that&#8217;s nothing to be cynical about.:^)</p>
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		<title>By: [rhymes with kerouac]</title>
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		<dc:creator>[rhymes with kerouac]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will be, of course, a righteous furor on so many fronts. Then, after vague statements and weak denials have run their course, there will be an inquiry. It will last for 18 months and cost millions of dollars. Lawyers will buy lakeside homes in Muskoka with the proceeds. In the midst of the summer - with tv viewership at it's annual low - the handsomely bound and strongly worded report will be released to a surprising lack of fanfare. The government will pledge to seriously consider its findings. Then? Well... the Jays will finish third in their division, the Leafs will sign a couple of mediocre, 40 year forwards and the whole world will go back to wondering whatever happened to Kato Katelin.

Or I might be cynical.

Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will be, of course, a righteous furor on so many fronts. Then, after vague statements and weak denials have run their course, there will be an inquiry. It will last for 18 months and cost millions of dollars. Lawyers will buy lakeside homes in Muskoka with the proceeds. In the midst of the summer - with tv viewership at it&#8217;s annual low - the handsomely bound and strongly worded report will be released to a surprising lack of fanfare. The government will pledge to seriously consider its findings. Then? Well&#8230; the Jays will finish third in their division, the Leafs will sign a couple of mediocre, 40 year forwards and the whole world will go back to wondering whatever happened to Kato Katelin.</p>
<p>Or I might be cynical.</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
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