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		<title>By: Dr. PZ Meyers and the Expelled film PR - it happened again at Bene Diction Blogs On</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/03/22/evolutionary-biologist-expelled-from-expelled/#comment-102302</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. PZ Meyers and the Expelled film PR - it happened again at Bene Diction Blogs On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] background: Mark Mathis The Premise of Feeding the Beast and Expelled Richard Dawkins on Expelled Evolutionary Biologist expelled from Expelled Traditional media is starting to pick up the Myers/Premise media story, the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] background: Mark Mathis The Premise of Feeding the Beast and Expelled Richard Dawkins on Expelled Evolutionary Biologist expelled from Expelled Traditional media is starting to pick up the Myers/Premise media story, the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Mathis: The Premises of Feeding the Beast and Expelled at Bene Diction Blogs On</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Mathis: The Premises of Feeding the Beast and Expelled at Bene Diction Blogs On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The expulsion of Dr. PZ Myers at a Minneapolis screening blew up on blogs like a breaking news scroller at the bottom of CNN.  Myers, who has been highly critical of the movie and the pretenses he and a couple of scientists were interviewed for it, has not taken being manipulated lightly. More attention occurred when Dr. Richard Dawkins published his account of the screening. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The expulsion of Dr. PZ Myers at a Minneapolis screening blew up on blogs like a breaking news scroller at the bottom of CNN.  Myers, who has been highly critical of the movie and the pretenses he and a couple of scientists were interviewed for it, has not taken being manipulated lightly. More attention occurred when Dr. Richard Dawkins published his account of the screening. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Mathis: The Premises of Feeding the Beast and Expelled at Bene Diction Blogs On</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Mathis: The Premises of Feeding the Beast and Expelled at Bene Diction Blogs On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The expulsion of Dr. PZ Myers at a Minneapolis screening blew up on blogs like a breaking news scroller at the bottom of CNN.  Myers, who has been highly critical of the movie and the pretenses he and a couple of scientists were interviewed for it, has not taken being manipulated lightly. More attention occurred when Dr. Richard Dawkins published his account of the screening. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The expulsion of Dr. PZ Myers at a Minneapolis screening blew up on blogs like a breaking news scroller at the bottom of CNN.  Myers, who has been highly critical of the movie and the pretenses he and a couple of scientists were interviewed for it, has not taken being manipulated lightly. More attention occurred when Dr. Richard Dawkins published his account of the screening. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Dawkins on creationist documentary Expelled at Bene Diction Blogs On</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/03/22/evolutionary-biologist-expelled-from-expelled/#comment-101976</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Dawkins on creationist documentary Expelled at Bene Diction Blogs On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can see my post here and follow the links [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bene Diction</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/03/22/evolutionary-biologist-expelled-from-expelled/#comment-101814</link>
		<dc:creator>Bene Diction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are the  scary 'critics' producers of Expelled think are going to be disruptive.

I went over to the science forum to see why the producers feel so threatened, to see if threats were made.

This is political, this is about hype for box office.

You may enjoy this exchange between Dr. Myers and Dr. Dawkins after Dr. Myers was expelled.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=c39jYgsvUOY 

This is seen as threat.:^(

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/08/im-gonna-be-a-m.html


&lt;blockquote&gt;"I don't mind sharing my views with creationists, and do so all the time. By filming under false pretenses, much like the example of the case of Richard Dawkins' infamous "pause", they've undercut their own credibility … not that that will matter. I suspect their audience will not question whatever mangling of the video that they carry out, and the subterfuges used to make it will not be brought up.

Oh, well. I have two warnings for the creationists.

One, I will go see this movie, and I will cheer loudly at my 30 seconds or whatever on the screen, and I will certainly disembowel its arguments here and in any print venue that wants me. That's going to be fun."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This isn't about Jesus versus Darwinism, the debate is being framed politically. The debate is about whether or not people accept or reject a body of evidence and accept for scientific reasons or reject for none-scientific ones.

The behavior of Christians does matter. We can participate by valuing common sense, personhood and telling the truth.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the  scary &#8216;critics&#8217; producers of Expelled think are going to be disruptive.</p>
<p>I went over to the science forum to see why the producers feel so threatened, to see if threats were made.</p>
<p>This is political, this is about hype for box office.</p>
<p>You may enjoy this exchange between Dr. Myers and Dr. Dawkins after Dr. Myers was expelled.</p>
<p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=c39jYgsvUOY" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=c39jYgsvUOY</a> </p>
<p>This is seen as threat.:^(</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/08/im-gonna-be-a-m.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/08/im-gonna-be-a-m.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t mind sharing my views with creationists, and do so all the time. By filming under false pretenses, much like the example of the case of Richard Dawkins&#8217; infamous &#8220;pause&#8221;, they&#8217;ve undercut their own credibility … not that that will matter. I suspect their audience will not question whatever mangling of the video that they carry out, and the subterfuges used to make it will not be brought up.</p>
<p>Oh, well. I have two warnings for the creationists.</p>
<p>One, I will go see this movie, and I will cheer loudly at my 30 seconds or whatever on the screen, and I will certainly disembowel its arguments here and in any print venue that wants me. That&#8217;s going to be fun.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This isn&#8217;t about Jesus versus Darwinism, the debate is being framed politically. The debate is about whether or not people accept or reject a body of evidence and accept for scientific reasons or reject for none-scientific ones.</p>
<p>The behavior of Christians does matter. We can participate by valuing common sense, personhood and telling the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherm</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/03/22/evolutionary-biologist-expelled-from-expelled/#comment-101813</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wandered over to the Harvard site after watching the YouTube interview with Richard Dawkins and PZ Meyers about the incident and Dawkins comments on the film.

Course one would expect that kind of behaviour from some of the wingnuts in the States.  What is sad is that Harper got rid of the scientist who was the advisor to the government and is slowly leading Canada down the same path.

The incident as described by Meyers is funny - no doubt about it.

Is Christianity Today receiving some of it's funding from these  types of groups favoured by the Republicans, hence the slanted version of thie events?

As long as there is such polarization of beliefs there will be division.  

What's really sad about this is that the "fundamentalist Christians" (and I use the word loosely) are not bearing witness to God's love, nor is their message credible or inticing to a non-believer.  Is CT is being sucked into the vortex too?

The more I see the more I run from 'mainstream' Christianity.  Sadly good churches are seriously undermined by such extremists.

I am sure God is not amused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wandered over to the Harvard site after watching the YouTube interview with Richard Dawkins and PZ Meyers about the incident and Dawkins comments on the film.</p>
<p>Course one would expect that kind of behaviour from some of the wingnuts in the States.  What is sad is that Harper got rid of the scientist who was the advisor to the government and is slowly leading Canada down the same path.</p>
<p>The incident as described by Meyers is funny - no doubt about it.</p>
<p>Is Christianity Today receiving some of it&#8217;s funding from these  types of groups favoured by the Republicans, hence the slanted version of thie events?</p>
<p>As long as there is such polarization of beliefs there will be division.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s really sad about this is that the &#8220;fundamentalist Christians&#8221; (and I use the word loosely) are not bearing witness to God&#8217;s love, nor is their message credible or inticing to a non-believer.  Is CT is being sucked into the vortex too?</p>
<p>The more I see the more I run from &#8216;mainstream&#8217; Christianity.  Sadly good churches are seriously undermined by such extremists.</p>
<p>I am sure God is not amused.</p>
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		<title>By: Bene Diction</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/03/22/evolutionary-biologist-expelled-from-expelled/#comment-101811</link>
		<dc:creator>Bene Diction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm really disappointed with CT, I admit it.

A half hour of research would have sorted out the facts.

Screening could be attended by applying here. http://rsvp.getexpelled.com/events/movies/expelled</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really disappointed with CT, I admit it.</p>
<p>A half hour of research would have sorted out the facts.</p>
<p>Screening could be attended by applying here. <a href="http://rsvp.getexpelled.com/events/movies/expelled" rel="nofollow">http://rsvp.getexpelled.com/events/movies/expelled</a></p>
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		<title>By: Grog</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/03/22/evolutionary-biologist-expelled-from-expelled/#comment-101803</link>
		<dc:creator>Grog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm cautious about CT's research at times.  It is somewhat prone to "looks good until a domain expert sees it" (I call it the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_the_Gods" rel="nofollow"&gt;Von Daniken effect&lt;/a&gt;)

A &lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/february/25.54.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;recent article on transsexualism&lt;/a&gt; they did looks almost reasonable until you realize that all of their "experts" that they cite are affiliated with either NARTH or the ex-gay movement.  They didn't cite a single professional affiliated with WPATH, or deals with transsexuals in an affirming way; nor did they talk with any of a number of transsexuals who are ordained.

The article almost sounds rational and reasoned - until you recognize the gaps in the underlying research, and then it's painfully clear that it's only a step or two removed from the insanity usually pedalled at Worldnet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m cautious about CT&#8217;s research at times.  It is somewhat prone to &#8220;looks good until a domain expert sees it&#8221; (I call it the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_the_Gods" rel="nofollow">Von Daniken effect</a>)</p>
<p>A <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/february/25.54.html" rel="nofollow">recent article on transsexualism</a> they did looks almost reasonable until you realize that all of their &#8220;experts&#8221; that they cite are affiliated with either NARTH or the ex-gay movement.  They didn&#8217;t cite a single professional affiliated with WPATH, or deals with transsexuals in an affirming way; nor did they talk with any of a number of transsexuals who are ordained.</p>
<p>The article almost sounds rational and reasoned - until you recognize the gaps in the underlying research, and then it&#8217;s painfully clear that it&#8217;s only a step or two removed from the insanity usually pedalled at Worldnet.</p>
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