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	<title>Comments on: Right to life march nearly costs a life</title>
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		<title>By: Dr.Dawg</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/05/09/right-to-life-protest-nearly-costs-a-life/#comment-108739</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.Dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 12:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was struck by that "pro-aborts can be violent" comment as well--but when it comes from the mouth of John Pacheco, I'm not at all surprised. I would ask this intellectually bankrupt individual to name one bombing, one shooting, one act of arson, one killing, attributable to pro-choice activists. 

On the &lt;a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;other hand&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was struck by that &#8220;pro-aborts can be violent&#8221; comment as well&#8211;but when it comes from the mouth of John Pacheco, I&#8217;m not at all surprised. I would ask this intellectually bankrupt individual to name one bombing, one shooting, one act of arson, one killing, attributable to pro-choice activists. </p>
<p>On the <a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm" rel="nofollow">other hand</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/05/09/right-to-life-protest-nearly-costs-a-life/#comment-108719</link>
		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 07:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey JJ. 

The language is adolescent, like you I don't see much point in commenting. It's in-group, we're cool you're not talk,  doesn't lend itself well to communicating a cause.
He'll learn. 
Violence and extreme violence in the pro-life movement is listed here.
http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/violence_statistics.html

Archbishop &lt;a href="http://www.theleaven.com/V29N37ColumnistNaumann.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Joseph F. Naumann&lt;/a&gt;, of the Archdiocese of Kansas City in Kansas has told the governor not to take communion. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I wrote the governor last August requesting that she refrain from presenting herself for reception of the Eucharist until she had acknowledged the error of her past positions, made a worthy sacramental confession and taken the necessary steps for amendment of her life which would include a public repudiation of her previous efforts and actions in support of laws and policies sanctioning abortion.
Recently, it came to my attention that the governor had received holy Communion at one of our parishes. I have written to her again, asking her to respect my previous request and not require from me any additional pastoral actions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Lifesite said there were eight protesters at the Ottawa march.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey JJ. </p>
<p>The language is adolescent, like you I don&#8217;t see much point in commenting. It&#8217;s in-group, we&#8217;re cool you&#8217;re not talk,  doesn&#8217;t lend itself well to communicating a cause.<br />
He&#8217;ll learn.<br />
Violence and extreme violence in the pro-life movement is listed here.<br />
<a href="http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/violence_statistics.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/violence_statistics.html</a></p>
<p>Archbishop <a href="http://www.theleaven.com/V29N37ColumnistNaumann.htm" rel="nofollow">Joseph F. Naumann</a>, of the Archdiocese of Kansas City in Kansas has told the governor not to take communion. </p>
<blockquote><p>I wrote the governor last August requesting that she refrain from presenting herself for reception of the Eucharist until she had acknowledged the error of her past positions, made a worthy sacramental confession and taken the necessary steps for amendment of her life which would include a public repudiation of her previous efforts and actions in support of laws and policies sanctioning abortion.<br />
Recently, it came to my attention that the governor had received holy Communion at one of our parishes. I have written to her again, asking her to respect my previous request and not require from me any additional pastoral actions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lifesite said there were eight protesters at the Ottawa march.</p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/05/09/right-to-life-protest-nearly-costs-a-life/#comment-108718</link>
		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 07:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Suzanne: I'm not responsible for what the commenter felt during her experience and their understanding of it.  Shooting the messenger is not as effective as responding to the commenter.

It isn’t about being left. it’s about being Christian.
It isn’t about being right, it’s about being like Jesus.
It isn't about being moderate it's about consideration.

And as for whether lefties or righties follow the commandments, of course, as individuals or in groups. 

The groups respresented at the march did so as identified Roman Catholics. 
I wondered if any of the Catholic schools or The KofC, or Real Women, Silent No More, Life Canada, Campaign Life Coalition etc responded when they heard.

I’m also talking about individual acts of giving, where the right hand doesn’t need to know what the left hand is doing. I see this as meaning two things to the individual believer, do without the giver needing to know it's you and don't broadcast what you do to others.  Matthew 5-6 stuff.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The World Is Not a Stage Matthew 6: 1-4 The Message
 "Be especially careful when you are trying to be good so that you don't make a performance out of it. It might be good theater, but the God who made you won't be applauding. 
"When you do something for someone else, don't call attention to yourself. You've seen them in action, I'm sure—'playactors' I call them— treating prayer meeting and street corner alike as a stage, acting compassionate as long as someone is watching, playing to the crowds. They get applause, true, but that's all they get. When you help someone out, don't think about how it looks. Just do it—quietly and unobtrusively. That is the way your God, who conceived you in love, working behind the scenes, helps you out. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

And yes, I’ve seen people you’d consider on the left of the political spectrum care for and minister to people affected by protest.

I’ve never heard of a police officer being hurt during these previous marches either. Thanks for answering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Suzanne: I&#8217;m not responsible for what the commenter felt during her experience and their understanding of it.  Shooting the messenger is not as effective as responding to the commenter.</p>
<p>It isn’t about being left. it’s about being Christian.<br />
It isn’t about being right, it’s about being like Jesus.<br />
It isn&#8217;t about being moderate it&#8217;s about consideration.</p>
<p>And as for whether lefties or righties follow the commandments, of course, as individuals or in groups. </p>
<p>The groups respresented at the march did so as identified Roman Catholics.<br />
I wondered if any of the Catholic schools or The KofC, or Real Women, Silent No More, Life Canada, Campaign Life Coalition etc responded when they heard.</p>
<p>I’m also talking about individual acts of giving, where the right hand doesn’t need to know what the left hand is doing. I see this as meaning two things to the individual believer, do without the giver needing to know it&#8217;s you and don&#8217;t broadcast what you do to others.  Matthew 5-6 stuff.</p>
<blockquote><p>The World Is Not a Stage Matthew 6: 1-4 The Message<br />
 &#8220;Be especially careful when you are trying to be good so that you don&#8217;t make a performance out of it. It might be good theater, but the God who made you won&#8217;t be applauding.<br />
&#8220;When you do something for someone else, don&#8217;t call attention to yourself. You&#8217;ve seen them in action, I&#8217;m sure—&#8217;playactors&#8217; I call them— treating prayer meeting and street corner alike as a stage, acting compassionate as long as someone is watching, playing to the crowds. They get applause, true, but that&#8217;s all they get. When you help someone out, don&#8217;t think about how it looks. Just do it—quietly and unobtrusively. That is the way your God, who conceived you in love, working behind the scenes, helps you out. </p></blockquote>
<p>And yes, I’ve seen people you’d consider on the left of the political spectrum care for and minister to people affected by protest.</p>
<p>I’ve never heard of a police officer being hurt during these previous marches either. Thanks for answering.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 05:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Bene!  

I just love the "pro-aborts can be violent" -- any snark on my part would be totally redundant.  (But names like "Kopp" and "Hill" come to mind, along with terrorist organizations who will remain nameless).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Bene!  </p>
<p>I just love the &#8220;pro-aborts can be violent&#8221; &#8212; any snark on my part would be totally redundant.  (But names like &#8220;Kopp&#8221; and &#8220;Hill&#8221; come to mind, along with terrorist organizations who will remain nameless).</p>
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		<title>By: SUZANNE</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/05/09/right-to-life-protest-nearly-costs-a-life/#comment-108715</link>
		<dc:creator>SUZANNE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 00:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You didn't say that they were responsible, but the commenter you quoted insinuated they were:

&lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;The lack of any discernible plan was the fault&lt;/b&gt; for this accident &#38; if, it turns out that the “anti-abortion” movement did, &lt;B&gt;as suspected&lt;/b&gt;, just start walking with an intent to disrupt as many people and as much business as possible then they are fortunate the officer wasn’t killed.

&lt;B&gt;That would have put the ultimate ironic face on their basic claim of respect for life.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;I&gt;You follow the anti-abortion blogs, did anyone make a donation, do anything for him or his family?&lt;/I&gt;

Not that I know of. Do lefties take up donations when cops are hurt in the protests they participate in? Seems Cops are far more at risk and hurt far more frequently during protests for left-wing causes.  I've never heard of a cop hurt during in a pro-life protest; not since I've been involved in the pro-life movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn&#8217;t say that they were responsible, but the commenter you quoted insinuated they were:</p>
<p><i><b>The lack of any discernible plan was the fault</b> for this accident &amp; if, it turns out that the “anti-abortion” movement did, <b>as suspected</b>, just start walking with an intent to disrupt as many people and as much business as possible then they are fortunate the officer wasn’t killed.</p>
<p><b>That would have put the ultimate ironic face on their basic claim of respect for life.</b></i></p>
<p><i>You follow the anti-abortion blogs, did anyone make a donation, do anything for him or his family?</i></p>
<p>Not that I know of. Do lefties take up donations when cops are hurt in the protests they participate in? Seems Cops are far more at risk and hurt far more frequently during protests for left-wing causes.  I&#8217;ve never heard of a cop hurt during in a pro-life protest; not since I&#8217;ve been involved in the pro-life movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/05/09/right-to-life-protest-nearly-costs-a-life/#comment-108712</link>
		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 18:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't say marchers were responsible Suzanne.
If I was a high school kid given a chance for a day off to hang out I'd take it.

You follow the anti-abortion blogs, did anyone make a donation, do anything for him or his family?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say marchers were responsible Suzanne.<br />
If I was a high school kid given a chance for a day off to hang out I&#8217;d take it.</p>
<p>You follow the anti-abortion blogs, did anyone make a donation, do anything for him or his family?</p>
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		<title>By: SUZANNE</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/05/09/right-to-life-protest-nearly-costs-a-life/#comment-108711</link>
		<dc:creator>SUZANNE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The notion that 8000 people made an impromptu March through downtown Ottawa is ridiculous. The tie-up was announced in The Ottawa Sun and one of the police sites (Ottawa Police or RCMP...can't remember which).

"What he felt" he saw was wrong. 

The person who hit the cop is the one responsible for his injuries, not the marchers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The notion that 8000 people made an impromptu March through downtown Ottawa is ridiculous. The tie-up was announced in The Ottawa Sun and one of the police sites (Ottawa Police or RCMP&#8230;can&#8217;t remember which).</p>
<p>&#8220;What he felt&#8221; he saw was wrong. </p>
<p>The person who hit the cop is the one responsible for his injuries, not the marchers.</p>
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