Comments on: New SBC President Johnny Hunt and his diploma mill “doctorates’

By: David Hamlin

David Hamlin — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 04:51:49 +0000

One more thing to add…
It does not seem to me that pastor Hunt’s character or calling is being attacked; but his wisdom in using a title which he may not have earned. While I can see no wrong in having such a title conferred on myself, I would refrain from using it if such use would stir up needless controversy. The Scriptures teach us to abstain from all appearance of evil. If such use does appear wrong, whether it is or not, then it should not be used. I would not knowingly do anything that would bring shame on the name of Jesus. Perhaps, if pastor Hunt is still using the honorific, he might consider stopping it. It would not make him less of a pastor or Bible teacher, and it might help to close the mouths of his critics.
I would consider a man on the basis of what he teaches, and how he lives his life. I would not do so on the basis of a title. It is how he lives as a disciple of Christ that is truly important.
Perhaps we all should think about that one too.
In love and in Christ’s service,

David Hamlin.

By: David Hamlin

David Hamlin — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 04:25:35 +0000

To J.C. Viger…
If you wish to defend Pastor Hunt, then do so without the hateful personal attacks that you have made thus far.
I will not weigh in on the issue of accreditation, the use of an honorary degree should be an issue with the local church on is pastor of, and the pastor and God. Yet, I would hesitate to use something which may needlessly stir up controversy.
It does not help your case to personally attack those with an opinion different from your own. Do not forget that the Scriptures teach that Jesus did not rail against His accusers, but was silent as a lamb let to the slaughter. Jesus did not need to do so. His actions and His sacrifice, and the Heavenly Father spoke for Him. It was the Father who exalted Him (Philippians 2:5-11).
Do not think that you are acting like Peter at Pentecost or later at Solomon’s Portico (Acts 2 & 3). While he plainly spoke the truth, and attested to what was public knowledge, Peter spit no poison at the crowds. Yes, he did say that they were the ones who delivered and disowned Jesus and had Him put to death. Yet Peter also acknowledged that they did so out of ignorance. At no time did Peter, ever, rail against the multitudes; just like the Savior. If you have a problem with what some people have written, fine…that is your right. It is not, however, your right to do so with the venom and anger that I have read in your comments. You accuse without knowledge or evidence. You attempt to cloud the issue by slander and inuendo which you cannot prove. I remind you of what Romans 12:14-21 says, epspecially v. 14: “Bless those who persecute you; BLESS AND DO NOT CURSE”. Can you honestly say that what you have written conforms to God’s Holy Word? Can you truthfully say that what you have written has helped your pastor and the cause of Christ? I belive that although you have not “cussed” you have cursed those who have honest differences with Pastor Johnny and what he does. If you wish to argue, then do it with civility and love. If you state something as fact, then provide the evidence to back it up…cite it and refer to it clearly.
You cannot further the cause of the Gospel with what you have said, and in the attitude you have displayed.
I do not know pastor Hunt, but I have heard a few of His sermons. I do not have a quarrel with what I have heard. I do not confess to know all about him nor can I really speak to the issue of accreditation with any authority. I can however, speak with the authority of the Scriptures as to how we treat one another. It is very specific on how you are to conduct yourself in the world. Please, consider what you have written, and look over your texts, not with your eyes, but the eyes of Christ. Have your words helped or hindered? Have they healed or hurt?
I would ask all concerned to do the same.

By: California State Christian University | Bene Diction Blogs On

California State Christian University | Bene Diction Blogs On — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 03:06:56 +0000

[...] International Inc. has a ‘doctorate’ from the same diploma mill as Johnny Hunt, the current president of the Southern Baptist Convention. Both are connected to Immanuel Baptist Theological Seminary [...]

By: Hopesome

Hopesome — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 14:10:33 +0000

A Diploma has no credibility to the one who calls us home

A college ‘per sae’ has no credibility to the one who calls us home

May I remind you of something -

we are nothing until we have lost our something – our something is that which trips us up.

I don’t need to say I AM

I just go out daily doing what I do and hoping that my will never exceeds anothers, that my hope never denies another, that my love ‘gifts and never takes anothers ability to love, that ‘I AM’ never walks

However in the event of someone trespassing on my ‘patch’ so help me Lord I WILL………………………….. exceed all expectations of their will and bring out yours ……………………

Education CAN be a good thing depending on and from that which ‘presents it’ Bitterness roots many a child because of ‘you will’ do this’ do that’ be this’ be that’ to teach in freedom for freedom, so we all have choices ‘in the/at the end – is precious to the Fathers will – INDOCTRINATE IS SO DAMN EASY for those who want fruits of hate to grow –

How you teach – he is watching- how you meet he is watching – how you lead he is taking ………………… Too many dictators are in evidence right now

The freedom for my children to choose to either love or hate depends soley on how I myself tackle such circumstances – honour, dignity, persistence, and a willingness to accept defeat if it means they don’t have to ( loose their dignity as a result )

LOVE HAS NEVER FAILED ME it just hurts when I witness that it does them

By: Bene Diction

Bene Diction — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 13:01:40 +0000

You tell me what the definition of a diploma mill is.
I already gave you a legitimate one recognized in the US and internationally.

You tell me if Covington accreditation is sufficient to get you into a decent position, a transferable job anywhere in your country, and a transfer of credits if required to recognized institutions of higher learning without time and monetary loss.

What do you understand the role of an accrediting agency to be?
You tell me if you graduate from Covington what career possibilities are open to you.

If students in unaccredited schools are learning for the joy of learning, fine. It’s their money, their choice.

By: NeilAnderson

NeilAnderson — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 12:27:53 +0000

It seems to me you have a spirit of bitterness; I wonder from whence it came….

If you call a “diploma mill” a college where you will spend two nights a week for five years studying (while working a full time job perhaps) a “diploma mill”, I wonder what your motive is. Is it that you have not education yourself? Or is it perhaps that you are angry at all Christians? Or perhaps just angry at anyone who attempts to increase their knowledge?

I suggest you enroll in Covington Theological Seminary and study with fellow students for the time necessary to earn an associate, a baccalaureat, a masters or a doctorate, and then see if you feel it is a “diploma mill”. You will find extension classes all over the US, and in a multitude of foriegn countries… Investigate before you castigate.

Neil Anderson

By: Woes of the SBC Pharisees Â« BaptistPlanet

Woes of the SBC Pharisees Â« BaptistPlanet — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 03:30:34 +0000

[...] prez Johnny Hunt isn’t the only SBCer with with a fake Phd. on his resume. Nor does Burleson gloss his excoriation with footnotes. Whether he has Hunt in mind [...]

By: Therese

Therese — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:28:05 +0000

Too many honorouary doctorates given out (often for dubious or ‘political’ reasons) dilutes the value of real doctorates, and undermines the hard work and achievements of those who actually earned theirs, in my opinion. And I agree with Torontonian it muddies the water as to who is an expert in their field and who is not. I wouldn’t be holding my breath for that ‘madness’ to go away though (I’m sure nobody is) – it’s an unfortunate reality of the fallen human condition. I’m very leary of Christian leaders who like to show off their titles, such as Apostle, Prophet, Bishop, Reverend, Doctor, etc, when Jesus was no respecter of persons and doesn’t want us to be either. I thought the whole idea of Protestantism was to put all that idolatry and carnality behind us – but it seems to be making a comeback in the evangelical Christian world unfortunately.

By: Torontonian

Torontonian — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:19:38 +0000

The people who use the Doctor prefix to their name and are
not practising medicine or Divinity are usually vain or terribly
insecure.

They use the title to bolster their self-confidence and their
perception of esteem from their peers.

These people usually have offices filled with photographs of
them and little else–except the Doctor’s degree, of course.
They are like the prima donnas who have mirrors in every
room of the house and many mirrors in the main living quarters
so that they can glance and see that they are PERFECT!

Real doctors are modest and not vain. Doctors of divinity
are also modest in keeping with the Christian message.

Will society ever return to only “earned” doctorates?
The door has been flung open and the ersatz doctors
populate the land and muddle the issues of the day
and it’s hard for most people to tell who’s who.

Maybe it’s time to start limiting degree-granting facilities
the licence to offer honorary degrees for a few decades
while the madness subsides. Short of that, shut them down
for a few decades until they come to their senses.

Where in the Christian world is there space for self-importance?

There isn’t. That’s the Christian message. Too bad so
many “Doctors” are tainting the message.

By: Apostle Dr. C.N. Turrell

Apostle Dr. C.N. Turrell — Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:26:17 +0000

For the record, those that have Honorary degrees like Billy Graham, they can be used legally.
Lots of people have them.
Only way they are of no good, like Doctor of Law, or something like that or a Medical Honorary degree.
And in case you wonder, my Doctor’s degree was hard earned.
But in our organization, I have issued many honorary Doctor’s degrees and they use the Dr. in front of there name.
IF someone is trying to say they earned them, and didn’t that is a different thing.
Now I am sure the President of the SBC was completely check out, and I am sure his Church knew where his degrees come from.
What it boils down too, he is a Conservative and some may not like it so they run him down, with anything they can to prove him not worthy of the office.
Glad I am an in a Independent Organization.