Comments on: New SBC President Johnny Hunt and his diploma mill “doctorates’

By: Hopesome

Hopesome — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 14:10:33 +0000

A Diploma has no credibility to the one who calls us home

A college ‘per sae’ has no credibility to the one who calls us home

May I remind you of something -

we are nothing until we have lost our something – our something is that which trips us up.

I don’t need to say I AM

I just go out daily doing what I do and hoping that my will never exceeds anothers, that my hope never denies another, that my love ‘gifts and never takes anothers ability to love, that ‘I AM’ never walks

However in the event of someone trespassing on my ‘patch’ so help me Lord I WILL………………………….. exceed all expectations of their will and bring out yours ……………………

Education CAN be a good thing depending on and from that which ‘presents it’ Bitterness roots many a child because of ‘you will’ do this’ do that’ be this’ be that’ to teach in freedom for freedom, so we all have choices ‘in the/at the end – is precious to the Fathers will – INDOCTRINATE IS SO DAMN EASY for those who want fruits of hate to grow –

How you teach – he is watching- how you meet he is watching – how you lead he is taking ………………… Too many dictators are in evidence right now

The freedom for my children to choose to either love or hate depends soley on how I myself tackle such circumstances – honour, dignity, persistence, and a willingness to accept defeat if it means they don’t have to ( loose their dignity as a result )

LOVE HAS NEVER FAILED ME it just hurts when I witness that it does them

By: Bene Diction

Bene Diction — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 13:01:40 +0000

You tell me what the definition of a diploma mill is.
I already gave you a legitimate one recognized in the US and internationally.

You tell me if Covington accreditation is sufficient to get you into a decent position, a transferable job anywhere in your country, and a transfer of credits if required to recognized institutions of higher learning without time and monetary loss.

What do you understand the role of an accrediting agency to be?
You tell me if you graduate from Covington what career possibilities are open to you.

If students in unaccredited schools are learning for the joy of learning, fine. It’s their money, their choice.

By: NeilAnderson

NeilAnderson — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 12:27:53 +0000

It seems to me you have a spirit of bitterness; I wonder from whence it came….

If you call a “diploma mill” a college where you will spend two nights a week for five years studying (while working a full time job perhaps) a “diploma mill”, I wonder what your motive is. Is it that you have not education yourself? Or is it perhaps that you are angry at all Christians? Or perhaps just angry at anyone who attempts to increase their knowledge?

I suggest you enroll in Covington Theological Seminary and study with fellow students for the time necessary to earn an associate, a baccalaureat, a masters or a doctorate, and then see if you feel it is a “diploma mill”. You will find extension classes all over the US, and in a multitude of foriegn countries… Investigate before you castigate.

Neil Anderson

By: Woes of the SBC Pharisees Â« BaptistPlanet

Woes of the SBC Pharisees Â« BaptistPlanet — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 03:30:34 +0000

[...] prez Johnny Hunt isn’t the only SBCer with with a fake Phd. on his resume. Nor does Burleson gloss his excoriation with footnotes. Whether he has Hunt in mind [...]

By: Therese

Therese — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:28:05 +0000

Too many honorouary doctorates given out (often for dubious or ‘political’ reasons) dilutes the value of real doctorates, and undermines the hard work and achievements of those who actually earned theirs, in my opinion. And I agree with Torontonian it muddies the water as to who is an expert in their field and who is not. I wouldn’t be holding my breath for that ‘madness’ to go away though (I’m sure nobody is) – it’s an unfortunate reality of the fallen human condition. I’m very leary of Christian leaders who like to show off their titles, such as Apostle, Prophet, Bishop, Reverend, Doctor, etc, when Jesus was no respecter of persons and doesn’t want us to be either. I thought the whole idea of Protestantism was to put all that idolatry and carnality behind us – but it seems to be making a comeback in the evangelical Christian world unfortunately.

By: Torontonian

Torontonian — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:19:38 +0000

The people who use the Doctor prefix to their name and are
not practising medicine or Divinity are usually vain or terribly
insecure.

They use the title to bolster their self-confidence and their
perception of esteem from their peers.

These people usually have offices filled with photographs of
them and little else–except the Doctor’s degree, of course.
They are like the prima donnas who have mirrors in every
room of the house and many mirrors in the main living quarters
so that they can glance and see that they are PERFECT!

Real doctors are modest and not vain. Doctors of divinity
are also modest in keeping with the Christian message.

Will society ever return to only “earned” doctorates?
The door has been flung open and the ersatz doctors
populate the land and muddle the issues of the day
and it’s hard for most people to tell who’s who.

Maybe it’s time to start limiting degree-granting facilities
the licence to offer honorary degrees for a few decades
while the madness subsides. Short of that, shut them down
for a few decades until they come to their senses.

Where in the Christian world is there space for self-importance?

There isn’t. That’s the Christian message. Too bad so
many “Doctors” are tainting the message.

By: Apostle Dr. C.N. Turrell

Apostle Dr. C.N. Turrell — Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:26:17 +0000

For the record, those that have Honorary degrees like Billy Graham, they can be used legally.
Lots of people have them.
Only way they are of no good, like Doctor of Law, or something like that or a Medical Honorary degree.
And in case you wonder, my Doctor’s degree was hard earned.
But in our organization, I have issued many honorary Doctor’s degrees and they use the Dr. in front of there name.
IF someone is trying to say they earned them, and didn’t that is a different thing.
Now I am sure the President of the SBC was completely check out, and I am sure his Church knew where his degrees come from.
What it boils down too, he is a Conservative and some may not like it so they run him down, with anything they can to prove him not worthy of the office.
Glad I am an in a Independent Organization.

By: rjlf

rjlf — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:55:33 +0000

Johnny Hunt has disclosed the fact that his doctorates are honorary. However, he doesn’t correct anyone when they introduce him as Dr. Hunt. Others before Hunt who have used the title of Dr. without having earned an actual doctorate from a regionally accredited school include Adrian Rogers, Jerry Falwell, Billy Graham, and Chuck Swindoll. Then, there are those who hold earned “doctorates” from schools that are not regionally accredited. Herb Reavis allows himself to be called Dr. but he does not have a doctorate from a regionally accredited school. Charles Stanley, Jerry Vines, John Phillips, O.S. Hawkins and many more have degrees from Luther Rice. While Luther Rice is accredited by TRACS it is not regionally accredited. Therefore, Luther Rice should not be placed on the same academic level as a regionally accredited seminary. The Lousiana Baptist University is another popular school that is not regionally accredited. I agree with the author of this blog that when preachers use the title Dr. when they have not earned a regionally accredited degree they are wrong. What purpose does it serve to put Dr. in front of your name when you don’t have a doctorate that is recognized by a regional accrediting agency? I think we all know the answer to that question. I attended a Southern Baptists of Texas Evangelism Conference in Euless, TX a few years ago. I was very disturbed to hear the announcer introducing Johnny Hunt, Herb Reavis and others as Dr. It is a lie.

By: Bene D

Bene D — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:55:35 +0000

JC:

Which last article?

I doubt you’d be happy if I turned your statement toward you as in: have you noticed what is going on with Crossroads Christian Communications?

Help me out, tell me what article and I’ll post it.

By: J.C.Viger

J.C.Viger — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:42:32 +0000

I see that in true Canadian fashion you did not post the last article because the truth was actually more than your Canadian mind set can handle.

You live in the darkness and Satan is who you serve….