Comments on: California State Christian University

By: Bene D

Bene D — Thu, 07 May 2009 07:15:45 +0000

Hi James, BD is fine.
What is your relationship to Samuel S. Kim?
Good luck attaining accreditation.

By: James Kim

James Kim — Wed, 06 May 2009 04:16:48 +0000

Dear Bene Diction,
You have mentioned many names on your blog, including mine. What is your name?
Regards,
James Kim

I can personally tell you that CSCU is making organizational strides to seek WASC accreditation, the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools and the Association of Biblical Higher Education (formerly The Accrediting Association of Bible Colleges). These are members of the Commission of Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA). We’re not there yet, but we are prayerfully working to accomplish those goals.

By: Bene Diction

Bene Diction — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 06:44:27 +0000

You can post pictures Robert.

As a matter of fact I’ll post anything you’d like including your comments, and any other comments you care to offer.

Just email me, I won’t censor anything you send, it will go up as is.

CCCU is not accredited.
Kim Chi Sun’s books being in Anyang University does not lend legitimacy to CCCU.
Samuel Kim being respected in Korea does not make CCCU accredited.

Charles McVety has an honourary from CCCU, not Anyang.

Dr. Winters is free to endorse anyone he pleases.
The William Carey vanity publishing house may well put out some good books, but it doesn’t change the fact CCCU is not accredited.

Yes, the website has been updated. The Canadian link now goes directly to the California webpage.

http://www.cscu.edu/index.php?pageId=1

California State Christian University website:

“At the present time (spring 2009) the enabling legislation that created California’s Bureau for Private Postsecondary & Vocational Education (BPPVE) has expired and renewing legislation is uncertain. Before the expiration, CSCU was approved by the BPPVE, today new State approval in California cannot be obtained.

CSCU makes no statement that its graduates will be accepted by specific institutions or boards. The intent of the administration/faculty is to meet and exceed the academic quality posed by recognized accrediting agencies.”

Saying academic standards exceed accredited institutions in the State of California or anywhere does not make CCCU accredited.

If you want an opportunity to rebut, email it in and you can have a full guest post.

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:41:43 +0000

A followup: Dr. Kim Chi Sun, The first doctor of theology in Korea and called by Dr. David Cho the Pastor of the largest church in the world called him the Jeremiah of Korea and credited him with personally mentoring him as a pastor and spiritual leader in Korea. After being in Korea this past month everywhere I went his name was recognized and revered
His works are archived in Anyang University the most noteable being The Heart of the Gospel. I have pictures of both he and his work. A visit to Anyang University presidents office gave credit to his starting the seminary which went on to be the University. Virtually every church iun Korea has an early morning prayer service and I attended quite a few credits Dr Kim chi Sun with starting this among the churches and he is seen as one of the key founders of what has become a spiritual revival in Korea.
His Son Samuel Kim the president of CSCU is also respected greatly in Korea as I found out. CSCU while it may not be perfect is certainly reformulating itself to train Pastors with 3 critical foundations.
1. their theological competence
2. their Spiritual Character
3. their Missiological Passion

The campus is part of a University consortium housed at William Carey University in Pasadena headed by Dr. Ralph winter founder if the US Center for World Mission.

You can check out the website and you will find a dramatic change from what you are blogging. Even the most prolific Christian Author in america Dr. Larry Richards believes enough in the University to allow his name and advice to be part of the website as the Academic advisor .
check the PhD requirements and you will see they meet or exceed the requirements of major world universities.

All the facts in this email can be verified by simple research and if I could post pictures to verify it I would.
No wonder Christianity in America and Canada is in so much trouble when half truths at best get postulated as fact.
Maybe however the blog has no intention of promoting the good in christianity but simply finding those who are flawed and exploiting them.

By: Bene D

Bene D — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:47:40 +0000

Thanks Robert.
It’s McVety.
Charles McVety.
It is not an academic institution, it’s a diploma mill.
Facts aren’t going to change because you think I have some kind of vendetta against Rev. McVety.

Yes, if an accredited university or institute of higher learning offered me an honourary it would be quite the thank you.

If a diploma mill offered me an honourary, it wouldn’t be worth the paper it’s printed on.

By: Robert Orr

Robert Orr — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:59:56 +0000

I know that there is a skepticism about honorary degrees and while some are certainly unearned you can look at the profiles of literally every University President and notice they too have an honorary degree in addition to their academic awarded degrees.
Many of the leading Universities around America now also offer life experience credit to student who have work experience that is considered of value to their educational pursuit.
Honorary doctorates are given not only by Christian Universities but regularly by major State institutions to actors, business professionals, and even to politicians who come and speak at graduations or make substantial contributions to the University.
If a doctorate (honorary) is given by an institution because it believes the life’s work or the contribution of the individual to the betterment of the school or the society that is the prerogative of the Institution.
While we may question the merits of any Institution in giving a honorary degree to any individual we must not devalue the honor bestowed as it has been long recognized in Academia as an appropriate honor for those whose life truly deserves it.
To slam CSCU for granting this degree because of your vendetta against Dr. Mc Vitie shows little appreciation or understanding of the reason for and worth of an honorary degree.
I would also add that the holder on an honorary degree postulating that it has been earned through normal academic rigors is dishonest but having the degree is evidence at least someone recognizes the work and contribution of an individual as having value.
I can’t be sure but I believe that if an institution of higher learning saw your life’s work and wanted to honor it by the granting of a honorary degree you would see it for what it is a visible thank-you for a substantial contribution to the betterment of our world.

By: Fixinlive

Fixinlive — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:54:04 +0000

I found this most interesting doing some research on a church here in London Ontario with some similar doctorates from CSCU and Victory Check these titles out for the pastors of Oasis Fellowship

Keep digging – I always wondered about these bogus degrees

Douglas McGeachie DCC., M.RE/C., D-CPC., G.P.P.

• Doctoral degree – Victory Bible College International
• Master’s Degree in Christian Counselling, California State Christian University
• Missionaries in Guatemala
• Certified Pastoral Counsellors
• Certified Marriage Counsellors
• Married; 2 children, 3 grandchildren
• Members of Evangelical Order of Certified Pastoral Counsellors of America
• Teaching staff of Evangelical Order of Certified Pastoral Counsellors of America
• Counselling in Christian and secular settings
• Owned a small business for 10 years

Aileen McGeachie D.C.C., M.RE/C., D-CPC., G.P.P.

By: BD

BD — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:07:18 +0000

Hi Mi Nyunt:

Can you explain what you mean?

By: Mi Nyunt

Mi Nyunt — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:09:32 +0000

I wish to do ministry together with you.

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