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		<title>By: richard abanes</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/07/31/silva-albane-and-bad-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-109092</link>
		<dc:creator>richard abanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post was made by a message board administrator in charge of moderating the forums at crosswalk.com and christianity.com. 

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From an Admin stand point I usually encourage people to use the report feature when they see someone violating our Terms of Service. One thing I have found is that the anonymity of the Internet fosters hotheadedness. Therefore, one never knows how terribly the recipient of a warning will respond. This is not to say that Mr. Silva has a tendency to that sort of behavior. (However, his response certainly does seem to indicate that it is in the realm of possibility that it would be so.)

We provide a service with a Terms of Service to which everyone agrees to abide by. Outlined in that service is how we will deal with violations of our Terms of Service. Rather than our members having to deal with this sort of unpleasantness we offer to deal with the situation privately.

In my opinion, a person does the right thing when he/she reports what is perceived to be a violation of our rules so that the situation can be reviewed and the appropriate action taken.

I doubt that the service provider in this case lost any sleep over any perceived threats of a law suit from Mr. Abanes. Such a suit standing up in court would be near impossible.

I believe, rather, that they did much the same thing I do. Look at the content and determine if it violated their rules. They found that it indeed did break their rules and sent a notice to Mr. Silva requesting that the content be removed for violations of the Terms of Service. (This is actually more than what we do in that we remove the content ourselves and notify the offender of the action taken.)

In this Admin&#039;s view Mr. Abanes did the right thing. . . .

Mr. Silva should have reviewed the Terms of Service and determined if they were rules by which he wished to be governed. . . . When asked to remove the content for violations of the Terms of Service Mr. Silva should have complied as per his agreement and then considered finding a site more suitable for his style.

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This sums up the incident fairly well. I have nothing to add, except my 100% agreement with this administrator. As I have noted before, those who have ears to hear and eyes to see will both see and hear the truth.

See his full post at my website, under &lt;a href=&quot;http://abanes.com/KS_Admin_Forums.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thoughts of a Web Forum Administrator: A Look At Ken Silva&#039;s Actions&lt;/a&gt;


 R. Abanes
&lt;a href=&quot;http://abanes.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pop Culture Mix Website&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post was made by a message board administrator in charge of moderating the forums at crosswalk.com and christianity.com. </p>
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<p>From an Admin stand point I usually encourage people to use the report feature when they see someone violating our Terms of Service. One thing I have found is that the anonymity of the Internet fosters hotheadedness. Therefore, one never knows how terribly the recipient of a warning will respond. This is not to say that Mr. Silva has a tendency to that sort of behavior. (However, his response certainly does seem to indicate that it is in the realm of possibility that it would be so.)</p>
<p>We provide a service with a Terms of Service to which everyone agrees to abide by. Outlined in that service is how we will deal with violations of our Terms of Service. Rather than our members having to deal with this sort of unpleasantness we offer to deal with the situation privately.</p>
<p>In my opinion, a person does the right thing when he/she reports what is perceived to be a violation of our rules so that the situation can be reviewed and the appropriate action taken.</p>
<p>I doubt that the service provider in this case lost any sleep over any perceived threats of a law suit from Mr. Abanes. Such a suit standing up in court would be near impossible.</p>
<p>I believe, rather, that they did much the same thing I do. Look at the content and determine if it violated their rules. They found that it indeed did break their rules and sent a notice to Mr. Silva requesting that the content be removed for violations of the Terms of Service. (This is actually more than what we do in that we remove the content ourselves and notify the offender of the action taken.)</p>
<p>In this Admin&#8217;s view Mr. Abanes did the right thing. . . .</p>
<p>Mr. Silva should have reviewed the Terms of Service and determined if they were rules by which he wished to be governed. . . . When asked to remove the content for violations of the Terms of Service Mr. Silva should have complied as per his agreement and then considered finding a site more suitable for his style.</p>
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<p>This sums up the incident fairly well. I have nothing to add, except my 100% agreement with this administrator. As I have noted before, those who have ears to hear and eyes to see will both see and hear the truth.</p>
<p>See his full post at my website, under <a href="http://abanes.com/KS_Admin_Forums.html" rel="nofollow">Thoughts of a Web Forum Administrator: A Look At Ken Silva&#8217;s Actions</a></p>
<p> R. Abanes<br />
<a href="http://abanes.com/" rel="nofollow">Pop Culture Mix Website</a></p>
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		<title>By: richard abanes</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/07/31/silva-albane-and-bad-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-109088</link>
		<dc:creator>richard abanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satanic? Hardly.

This &lt;a href=&quot;http://abanes.com/RA_SC_KS.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Open Letter to Steve Camp&lt;/a&gt; outlines my initial thoughts/intentions/motivation for writing to Ken Silva&#039;s ISP. It also covers various issues relating to the &quot;Ken Silva vs. Richard Abanes&quot; controversy, including:

1. Bible Study notes on key passages being discussed (1 Cor. 6 and Matt. 18),
2. the actual contents of my email to Silva&#039;s ISP,
3. observations about the current state of the church,
4. an indictment of today&#039;s so-called Online Discernment Ministries, and
5. documentation of Ken Silva’s violation of federal copyright/privacy laws, and other issues.

The open letter should answer most questions and addressed the widely-read article by Steve Camp titled &quot;Battles in the Blogsphere.&quot;

This is my final word on the issue. Those who have ears to hear, and eyes to see, will both hear and see the truth.

Proverbs 18:13 reads: &quot;He who answers before listening—that is his folly and his shame.&quot;

Proverbs 18:17 tells us: &quot;The first to present his case seems right, till another comes forward and questions him.&quot; 

Richard Abanes
&lt;a href=&quot;http://abanes.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pop Culture Mix&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satanic? Hardly.</p>
<p>This <a href="http://abanes.com/RA_SC_KS.html" rel="nofollow">Open Letter to Steve Camp</a> outlines my initial thoughts/intentions/motivation for writing to Ken Silva&#8217;s ISP. It also covers various issues relating to the &#8220;Ken Silva vs. Richard Abanes&#8221; controversy, including:</p>
<p>1. Bible Study notes on key passages being discussed (1 Cor. 6 and Matt. 18),<br />
2. the actual contents of my email to Silva&#8217;s ISP,<br />
3. observations about the current state of the church,<br />
4. an indictment of today&#8217;s so-called Online Discernment Ministries, and<br />
5. documentation of Ken Silva’s violation of federal copyright/privacy laws, and other issues.</p>
<p>The open letter should answer most questions and addressed the widely-read article by Steve Camp titled &#8220;Battles in the Blogsphere.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is my final word on the issue. Those who have ears to hear, and eyes to see, will both hear and see the truth.</p>
<p>Proverbs 18:13 reads: &#8220;He who answers before listening—that is his folly and his shame.&#8221;</p>
<p>Proverbs 18:17 tells us: &#8220;The first to present his case seems right, till another comes forward and questions him.&#8221; </p>
<p>Richard Abanes<br />
<a href="http://abanes.com/" rel="nofollow">Pop Culture Mix</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That helps a lot Mark - I didn&#039;t put Silva in Landmarkism, your observation makes complete sense.  

That explains Silva&#039;s belief he is a pastor online, I didn&#039;t make the connection - of course - you and I are not Christians because there is no universal church. 

Thank you, the aha! just clicked in.  &quot;Hell will freeze over&#039; may have  been an self-alerting unconscious clue.:^)

Yep,  as far as Silva is concerned you&#039;d be headed there with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That helps a lot Mark &#8211; I didn&#8217;t put Silva in Landmarkism, your observation makes complete sense.  </p>
<p>That explains Silva&#8217;s belief he is a pastor online, I didn&#8217;t make the connection &#8211; of course &#8211; you and I are not Christians because there is no universal church. </p>
<p>Thank you, the aha! just clicked in.  &#8220;Hell will freeze over&#8217; may have  been an self-alerting unconscious clue.:^)</p>
<p>Yep,  as far as Silva is concerned you&#8217;d be headed there with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Byron</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/07/31/silva-albane-and-bad-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-109074</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Byron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 05:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silva is all but a Landmark Landshark, for he&#039;s of the ilk that unless you buy into his old-school form of Baptist Fundamentalist thought without deviation, you&#039;re the enemy, and he &lt;i&gt;likes&lt;/i&gt; picking fights. He makes me look like a Episcopalian lefty. 

Abanes seems a bit more civilized, but that&#039;s not saying much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silva is all but a Landmark Landshark, for he&#8217;s of the ilk that unless you buy into his old-school form of Baptist Fundamentalist thought without deviation, you&#8217;re the enemy, and he <i>likes</i> picking fights. He makes me look like a Episcopalian lefty. </p>
<p>Abanes seems a bit more civilized, but that&#8217;s not saying much.</p>
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		<title>By: richard abanes</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/07/31/silva-albane-and-bad-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-109073</link>
		<dc:creator>richard abanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed. I know Andrew. Awesome blog. Awesome guy. 

FYI, I&#039;ll also submit here my answer to a private email wherein I was asked to show on the blogs I frequent where/what I am doing now for God’s kingdom. If interested, please feel free to check out my newest work on &lt;a href=&quot;http://abanes.com/An_New_Earth_Tolle_Abanes.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eckhart Tolle and Oprah Winfrey&lt;/a&gt; (also see 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://richardabanes.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my blog posts on Eckhart Tolle&lt;/a&gt;).

I&#039;ll be sure to blogroll you if you want to blogroll me, That might be fun.

talk soon,

RA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. I know Andrew. Awesome blog. Awesome guy. </p>
<p>FYI, I&#8217;ll also submit here my answer to a private email wherein I was asked to show on the blogs I frequent where/what I am doing now for God’s kingdom. If interested, please feel free to check out my newest work on <a href="http://abanes.com/An_New_Earth_Tolle_Abanes.html" rel="nofollow">Eckhart Tolle and Oprah Winfrey</a> (also see<br />
<a href="http://richardabanes.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">my blog posts on Eckhart Tolle</a>).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be sure to blogroll you if you want to blogroll me, That might be fun.</p>
<p>talk soon,</p>
<p>RA</p>
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		<title>By: Bene Diction</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bene Diction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard:

I spelled your name wrong, I apologize, that was sloppy of me. It&#039;s fixed.

You may appreciate &lt;a href=&quot;http://tallskinnykiwi.typepad.com/tallskinnykiwi/2008/07/avoiding-blog-l.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;. I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard:</p>
<p>I spelled your name wrong, I apologize, that was sloppy of me. It&#8217;s fixed.</p>
<p>You may appreciate <a href="http://tallskinnykiwi.typepad.com/tallskinnykiwi/2008/07/avoiding-blog-l.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>. I did.</p>
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		<title>By: richard abanes</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2008/07/31/silva-albane-and-bad-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-109071</link>
		<dc:creator>richard abanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREETINGS!

Interesting coverage. I offer the following links that offer the truth, as I see it, about what has been happening:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://richardabanes.wordpress.com/2008/07/27/lighthouse-trails-more-ken-silva-propaganda/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lighthouse Trails: More Ken Silva Propaganda&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://richardabanes.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/more-arguments-ingrid-schlueter-speaks/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MORE ARGUMENTS: Ingrid Schlueter Speaks!&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://richardabanes.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/ken-silva-more-lies-more-sensationalism-more-sin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ken Silva - More Lies, More Sensationalism, More Sin&lt;/a&gt;

Richard Abanes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREETINGS!</p>
<p>Interesting coverage. I offer the following links that offer the truth, as I see it, about what has been happening:</p>
<p><a href="http://richardabanes.wordpress.com/2008/07/27/lighthouse-trails-more-ken-silva-propaganda/" rel="nofollow">Lighthouse Trails: More Ken Silva Propaganda</a></p>
<p><a href="http://richardabanes.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/more-arguments-ingrid-schlueter-speaks/" rel="nofollow">MORE ARGUMENTS: Ingrid Schlueter Speaks!</a></p>
<p><a href="http://richardabanes.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/ken-silva-more-lies-more-sensationalism-more-sin/" rel="nofollow">Ken Silva &#8211; More Lies, More Sensationalism, More Sin</a></p>
<p>Richard Abanes</p>
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