Last week a diverse group of bloggers asked traditional media (Globe and Mail in particular) to fact check information they received from special interest groups. The National Post was on the list, but Kirk Makin in particular for uncritically putting up remarks by The Canada Family Action Coalition without asking basic questions.
The Star, which had also published the Coalition complaint without question was the first to give a columnist room to refute. Next the Globe and Mail chimed in Thursday with an opinion piece – Smearing the Chief Justice.
Those who oppose abortion, or seek restrictions to protect the lives of fetuses, take the decision to honour Dr. Morgentaler as an affront. To disagree with his appointment is reasonable — abortion remains a polarizing issue — but complaints about the outcome should be made to the Governor-General, who awards the Order of Canada, not to the CJC.
To attack the process by which Dr. Morgentaler was appointed to the Order of Canada is also open to the Canadian Family Action Coalition. The group can do so by challenging the Constitution of the Order of Canada, which obliges the Chief Justice to act as the chair of the advisory council to the Order of Canada.
Accusing the Chief Justice of judicial misconduct, however, suggests these activists are merely looking for publicity.
Well, yes, that is exactly what they were looking for and bloggers were happy to provide them with some. Just not quite what they were looking for. Taking the ’42 religious organizations representing a million Canadians’ many top notch bloggers across political spectrum made clear the duplicity and dishonesty of representation of the signatures on the complaints. The Star willing named some of the bloggers who did the heavy lifting. The Globe did not, but that’s okay, Bouquets of Grey lacerated dishonesty of the Coalition’s misrepresentation with facts and the 42 fell to the low 20′s. The latest in the post – When the aints go marching in.
Traditional media (other than Antonia Zerbisias) did not weigh in until Chris Bird at the Osgoode Hall Law School blog tore the Canada Family Action Coalition complaint into legal confetti sized fluff. Of course a comment response was to point out a bible verse was taken out of context, the substance of Bird’s legal argument could not be addressed, so it was rather fun to run with the comment by pointing out the bible verse even in context stood, and if that wasn’t sufficient, it’s not difficult to provide other examples. The legal argument is what the complaint stands or falls on, and it’s fallen badly. It wasn’t standing in the first place.
Media didn’t do their job, bloggers did their job for them. It’s good to see paid media catch up, good for them, and without rancor toward bloggers who do what they do without pay and because we like blogging and we like truth. But it doesn’t have to be this way, reporters read blogs, this wasn’t about sides or animosity, it was about telling the truth. And media weighted in late, people notice and their creds take a beating.
Colby Cosh at the National Post took the Coalition complaint out to the chopping block Friday in A Ludicrous Attack On McLachlin. Cosh is an acidic, succinct writer and I think he showed restraint.
The commenters were not happy, and went after him (calling him a liberal, complaining about his language as unbecoming a journalist etc.) instead of addressing the substance of his argument; similar to some of the Chris Bird complaints. Read the comments at your peril, it’s nearly fall, enjoy the weather and don’t wear off the end of the summer mellow you’ve accumulated. Life is too short.:^)
“No one was ever scolded out of their sins.†– William Crowper
Update: Brian Rushfeldt responds to Colby Cosh in The National Post. It wasn’t his fault, the Coalition was stonewalled. Not a peep about the Coalition astroturfing. Of course.
via: unrepentant old hippie
I mentioned Dennis Gruending had written a primer on ‘The Cry’ a rally for Canadian neo-pentecostals which has been held for a few years on Parliament Hill. They bus in young people looking for an exciting afternoon, and I’m genuinely surprised at how far the numbers are down from earlier rallies. Dr. Dawg showed up to an anti-abortion rally in July and reported about 400 kids were bused in.
The Cry didn’t get the turnout they hoped for this weekend either.
The Bible says the meek shall inherit the Earth, but there
was no trace of meekness in Faytene Kryskow and her passionate preaching yesterday on Parliament Hill.
“We’re going to turn Parliament Hill into the Wailing Wall,” Ms. Kryskow told about 400 followers spread out on Parliament’s front lawn. The prayer gathering is known as The Cry, a rally for fundamentalist youth who believe mainstream Canadian society is morally bankrupt.
Why not? Expenses? Has the target group that started with 4MyCanada grown up and moved on? Organizer Kystow’s ties to Extreme Prophetic and Canadian Todd Bentley’s neo-pentecostalism and extra-biblical heresy and militant extremism exposed in the US?
The poor advice on 4MyCanada to teens on how to voice opinion to government?
4MyCanada promised young people heading to Ottawa this past weekend:
The day will include of mix of Christian bands (leading in worship), well known national leaders from various denominations/MPs & Senators bringing short exhortations and many young emerging Christian leaders leading the crowd in prayer for a variety of key issues facing Canada right now.
…The day will include of mix of Christian bands (leading in worship), well known national leaders from various denominations/MPs & Senators bringing short exhortations and many young emerging Christian leaders leading the crowd in prayer for a variety of key issues facing Canada right now.
It appears Kystow’s followers weren’t mocked, and there is no mention (I could find) of the promised religious rock bands, well known national leaders or MP’s and Senators showing up.
There are three more ‘The Cry’s scheduled this year.
Any ideas on why 4MyCanada and The Cry seems to be losing steam?
Hate, while an easy and dependable fuel, is difficult to sustain.
It seems Fantene Kystow’s particular brand of pseudo-edgy charismatic preaching is not catching on any more. Perhaps Kystow should examine how Madonna regenerates and markets herself, if she wants to hold on to her fan club and recruit new followers.
The object is to attract young people into fundamentalism and that isn’t going to change because there was a low turnout.
I doubt most high school and college age people are aware of the wider underpinnings of this group.
The militancy of Ms. Kystow’s neo-pentecostalism may be losing it’s luster as real wars drag on and the economy dips.
I’m genuinely curious to know why this fizzled this time out.
I’m seeing it in Australia, UK, here. Young people serious about their faith are walking away from Joel’s Army extremism and moving on.
There’s always a market for fire-and-brimstone preaching and ranting against a fallen government in certain quarters of evangelicaldom; some of it comes from Baptist and other non-charismatic quarters that wouldn’t fit into your Joel’s Army paradigm.
However, there is probably a bit of fatigue and realism set in on the Canadian “religious right” that they’re not going to change things on a political level anytime soon. Even if the Conservatives manage to get a majority, there are enough old PC-style folks like Peter MacKay in the Tory camp to keep things like same-sex-marriage repeal or any abortion legislation at bay.
Thus, the folks sponsoring these rallies are, to tweak the Bard, full of sound and fury, changing nothing. More thoughtful folks will shift gears to evangelism and discipleship and put the political stuff on the back burner.
“No one was ever scolded out of their sins.†– William Crowper
Pax Mr. Crowper
2 Samuel 12:7-12
Faytene Kryskow had doctrinal issues and is not a nice person
I’m not suprised by this because I remember Faytene when she was in Vancouver but what seems to suprise me is how is it she seems to get away with so much ?
She’s anything but meek is true.
She burns her bridges
In May/04 came back from Fresh Fire,Abbotsford to Worship Invasion at Peace Portal Alliance,Surrey,it was there this group under Ed & Wendy Rubuliak someone who helps run the group slanders me quickly saying,”Do you know you are never allowed to go to a Fresh Fire Conference again because you prayed ove a wonam and took the rin off of her finger”thinfs turned ugly.Thye told Faytene because at Extreme Prophetic she was really terrible to me
Faytene is anything but meek, I agree.This seems to be a them for her from when she was in Vancouver.
I had a really bad experience with persons like her.
It started with Todd Bentley Fresh Fire,Abbotsford Pentecostal in May/04.The conference itself was quite good with a nice banquet alive atmosphere but something seemed a little strange though.
Later in May/04 I go to a Worship Invasion,Moderated by Ed Rubuliak was the Young Adults leader at Glad Tidings Church,at a Venue event at Peace Portal Alliance n Surrey,BC.It was there, as soon as I set foot in the place,one of his bad crew quickly slandered me said,”Do you know you are never allowed to go to a Fresh Fire Conference again because you prayed over a woman and took the ring off of her finger?”,I did no such thing,they did not want to hear me,I just froze it was so bizarre.I was really wronged.I phoned Peace Portal Alliance and they’ve never been allowed back since.Worship Invasion ;probably thought they had a prophetic vision but had they discerned would’ve found out otherwise.
June/04 Extreme Prophetic,Vancouver,run by Faytene Kryskow,all three of these groups are linked.They must’ve told her because she knew my name,etc but she doesn’t know me,how sneaky!
She sees me on the public sidewalk and talks me down by talking fast and being controlling sais,”John Paysar -I don’t like you- you’re standing on private property,we own the building,we’ll phone the Police,I rebuke you in the name of Jesus”,tries to shove me down the sidewalk.
The Venue event was in the Cordial Hall lon Pender & Templeton in Vancouver and the truth is it is owned by the Killarney Community Center who rents it to the Salvation Army War College who allowed Faytene to use the building so she is in no way connected to the property owners and also a public sidewalk is not private property.
Someone from the War College met with me and we talked and he said,”Faytene Kryskow wronged you,did not allow you to be heard,has doctrinal issues and will never be allowed to use the Salvation Army War College Vancouver again”.
I’m sorry you tangled with Kryskow, given who she works with, I’m not surprised you were threatened.
You may have filled in a bit of the personal puzzle for me, it is quite unlike the Salvation Army to speak publicly against another group or individual, but one of the members did against Bentley. The Gibson pastoral group did not want their youth groups going to a Bentley show and for some reason the Sally Ann officer’s unequivical statement stood out.
The kids Krystow targets are so vulnerable to the authoritarianism.
Doctrinal issues is an understatement…
Faytene Kryskow,who is umarried herself with no children,so what does she know about treating younger people well if she hasn’t learned so as a parent and how was her home life?
What were the family dynamics of Faytene Kryskow?
The vulnerable kids she targets with fast talk and buying them by giving away things she had prices on !
She probably treated the vulnerable kids the way she treated me but they probably didn’t know what to do because they were scared and vulnerable.The way Faytene moves around could make it hard for these wronged younger persons to band together as a group.
I’m glad of your Blog is healing and supportive for me !
I’m very glad you’re doing this because I think Faytene has gotten away with too much and I can’t believe how much she gets away with !
This authoritarianism and Faytene’s interest in politics sounds like Dominionism
Who are the persons she works with and how do you find them?
There must be some bad infighting between the persons Faytene works with.So,how long will they last?
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Who are the people that Faytene Kryskow works with and what are they like.She’d be under Patricia King.She works with Wes & Stacy Campbell.Has ties with Todd Bentley and Fresh Fire and they can be a bit much the way Todd says God commanded to kick people is a bit much.Her ties with Ed Rubuliak is the moderator of Worship Invasion is a very quick talking arrogant man.
I think this subculture of extremist charismatic fringes persons have been treated badly and continue on in the same way to others.This is a poisonous undercurrent and dynamics is just plain sad.And,by the way,they don’t strike me as very happy persons.
I’d once seen Faytene Kryskow at a Fresh Fire Conference run by Todd Bentley at the Abbotsford Pentecostal Church in Abbotsford and at the Salvation Army 3:16 club where they put on a free dinner for us.At the table was an older Salvation Army officer who was nice and seemed sound.But Faytene Kryskow was another story,she had a rather bizarre and judgemental look on her face towards me like she only wants herself and others to be -a certain way- or else is what I picked up on.But what and why is it with this certain way?
She did not get in to the Christian Heritage Party but I have seen that the group once closed as listed on wikipedia and persons at my church don’t sound too crazy about it.
How does Faytene make money? Does she collect welfare and work under the table?
She does not seem like a mentally healthy person, I wonder if she’s had a psychiatric assessment.
Why do these people act in this threatening and aggessive way?
Why did they harm me,how come they always seem to get away with it and what is it based on?
John, I think Krsytow makes money in media and promotion for groups like Extreme Prophetic, websites, pr, conferences – but don’t quote me.
The New Apostolic Reformation is not healthy spiritually, mentally, emotionally or socially no matter how well they market themselves – that’s why you see so many Christians online warning others.
I grieve for anyone caught up in it.
Because core beliefs are so unsound, and the demands on those who work in this belief system are so stringent, it is designed and marketed to attract people looking for shelter. Since they are attractive to the vulnerable, a lot of people leave broken.
Any one of us could be conned. If we don’t have strong support systems, we can be sucked into anything. We don’t understand or accept sin, accountability and responsibility and how incredible God’s love is to save us from our filth and ignorance.
In healthy churches when people get hurt, issues are dealt with honestly, repentance and restoration are goals with no shortcuts.
There is respect, discernment, inter-dependence.
Many ministers are trained to help those coming out of sick authoritarian structures or know where to refer someone who needs to work through what happened to them.
Local pastor used YouTube to warn Floridians and the rest of us when the Straders started their next con – Lakeland.
Other churches in the region helped people who needed transportation money home, or food or counselling.
Christians haven’t gone away, they just don’t start TV stations and brag and beg.:^)
NAR is dominionist, they believe Christ is being held in heaven until they (Joel’s Army or whatever military title de jour they chose) subdue the earth.
Believes are man-centred, not Christ centred or biblical. They believe they have to rule/subdue or God can’t work.
They believe they have to defeat Satan.
They believe if we don’t obey them, we are their enemy.
They embrace Kingdom Now/Manifest Sons of God/Prosperity/gnosticism – a sorry mish mash of man made religion that has nothing to do with who Jesus Christ is and our relationship to Him.
You’ve seen that it is narcissistic, militaristic, aberrant and will go unchecked as long as we don’t speak up in love and firmness, expose their beliefs and behaviors using God’s word and we learn to socially marginalize them and cut of their money train.
These beliefs have ebbed and flowed throughout history, morphed into the latest nonsense you have brushed against and you’re seeing an uptick these days for a lot of different reasons.
Your warning bells went off. That’s a good thing.
In being Bereans we are compelled by the love of God to reach out to those who have been wounded.
People can only heal when they understand what they embraced is sick.
Followers and leaders wouldn’t go for a mental health evaluation – that would be seen as failure and sin – unless they chose to walk away and realize the harm they’ve been exposed to and promoted. A network of their own ‘therapists’ have been around for years keep followers from leaving. (same as Scientology, Christian Science and other sects and cults)
Walking away is a very difficult thing to do.
When you are taught you have to do what leaders who tell you they are anointed or God will punish you, it’s easy to be threatening and aggressive and justify your behavior.
Under that arrogance is fear, but that doesn’t mean in understanding that you have to take the abuse.
Shaking off the dust and walking away is smart.
They believe aggression is their God given responsibility and right (they think they are responsible for battling Satan) and threats are needed and necessary to get people righteous and obedient.
They actually believe what they do determines God’s timetable and He can’t act until they subdue the earth.
So aggression is part of being what they see as a good follower.
Threatening is necessary to either save you or separate you as enemy. If they save you it is so you can be used to subdue the earth. You are their spiritual cannon fodder.
Gnostic to the core.
I’m so sorry you’ve been harmed – delusional people can be quite toxic.
I’ve seen others who have a strong sense of self, skepticism, logic, relationship with Christ and with biblical grounding be treated very badly.
They don’t always get away with it, I know it feels that way.
Just the prosperity gospel alone – Bakker, Swaggert, Haggard, Popoff.
Caught.
Under US federal scrutiny: Copeland, Hinn, White.
Sick or dead: Cain, Jones, and more I can’t think of off the top of my head.
Sidelined: Bentley.
Scorned and exposed: Dobson, Wagner, Crowder, King…
God is just and He is awake.
It only feels like they always seem to get away with it.
I’m praying you find more guys like your Salvation Army table-mate; grounded in reality, scripturally aware, merciful, filled with God’s love and there for you.
The fellow is Jonathan Evans from the Salvation Army War College in Vancouver
Jonathan_Evans@thewarcollege.com
http://www.thewarcollege.com/
If you click Vancouver then leaders Wes & Stacy Campbell pop up
College faculty Jonathan Evans, click Visting Faculty Faytene Kryskow & Patricia King pop up.
Faytene Kryskow was at West Point Christian Fellowship on W12th&Macdonald in Vancouver.
Wes & Stacy Campbell were at Kelowna Christian Fellowship when a person came in with a great investment that cost the congregation 1 Million Dollars is called affinity fraud. Stacy is now the head of the Canadian Prophetic Council and I’ve seen her head shaking her head around on U-Tube a bit like Todd Bentley
If you click
http://www.worshipinvasion.com/
then click Photo Slide Show the very last one to click is Se 08 Take the Hill SFU
“Worship Invasion takes on the Hill”
This group is linked with Faytene/Extreme Prophetic & Todd Bentley/Fresh Fire
So you can see when they said to me June04 Peace Portal Alliance,Surrey about the praying over a woman and taking the ring off of her finger slander how Faytene found out and believed them too and not me
Ed Rubuliak was the young Adults leader at Glad Tidings Church Fraser & E18th,Van,BC lives in Bonavista Place in Richmond.Computer Science Teacher BCIT
Faytene was with West Point Christian Fellowship,W12th& Macdonald,Van,BC.
Another helpfull person/group has been the Prayer Book Society for the Anglican Church
click
http://www.prayerbook.ca/
click: Local>The West, scroll down to Vancouver
The name on there Norah Johnston is helpfull
She is an artist,her father is a Lawyer
Her husband is a medical practitioner
Tim Vondette, a member of the PBS, is a Barrister & Soliciter
All these people have been helpfull
They were there and I could talk to them
They helped add pieces to the puzzle
At the time when I tangled with Faytene Kryskow it was 2004
That was 4 years from an assault in 2000 causing a cracked skull/bruised brain as I was walking home from the gym
I could’ve died but didn’t
In 2004 possibly showing signs of a medical history vs Faytene Kryskow/Extreme Prophetic Ed Rubuliak/Worship Invasion was more vulnerable.
I think they probably homed in for the kill in the name of Jesus rebuking me along the way.
Probably thinking they are doing this as some victory for the kingdon of god shows me what they have gotten themselves into is sad.
Hey Guys,
Just popping in to say God bless you. I am sorry for the misunderstanding John, I don’t remember the incident but it sounds like there was some misunderstanding of sorts. I know Ed and Wendy to be amazing people, giving and true lovers of God.
Anyway, TheCRYs etc. have been a great success this year with lots of sweet fruit — we are all really encouraged in our faith and love for this country that God loves so much too.
Praying for you, that you can accept this apology in the way it is intended and that your heart will be softened.
There are too many people out there to touch for us to be wasting time on petty squirmishes.
In my life I have had many people do hurtful things…the test is are we like Jesus? Do we respond with a heart of forgiveness and say, “Father forgive them….”
After reading all these slanderous comments I want you to know that I feel the love of God in my heart for you, bless you, forgive you and will pray for you before I hit the hay tonight.
Take Care. As I don’t have much time for blogging these days I will not be logging on again (just wanted to give you the FYI). I stumbled across this by accident as I was looking for something else.
Best wishes and love in Christ,
Faytene
Faytene:
I don’t think people getting hurt, physically, mentally, emotionally and particularly spiritually are petty skirmishes.
I appreciate you commenting. What I don’t appreciate is what is called a ‘hit and run’ comment.
There may have been a reason you ‘stumbled’ here, I’m sorry it sailed right over your head.
To Faytene
The comments of mine are not slanderous, they are the truth, but it is you Faytene Kryskow, Ed & Wendy Rubuliak who were slanderous towards me with your gossip about slandering me for ‘praying over a woman and taking the ring off of her finger’ which I did not do.
Holding onto this slander and feeling it is a prophetic vision is idolatry.
Hey Guys – curiosity got the best of me as I have been praying for you over this past day
. Hence I popped back in 
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John I am really sorry that you were hurt. I, personally, don’t remember anything about a ring…so, that is a mystery to me. Wish I did remember so that I could comment. My sense is that there was a deep misunderstanding of sorts and, like I said, I know Ed and Wendy well and their hearts are pure gold
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If you would like to go for coffee and talk / pray through this the next time I am in your area (in accordance to (Mt. 18:15-17)) I would be happy to. Public blogs are not really the best forum to hear hearts…I prefer looking someone in the eyes
. I am assuming you are still in Vancouver (?). Also, it would be amazing to bring your pastor along and/or one of the pastors I am in relationship with….it is always good to have a second set of ears. Also, as a woman I make it a practice not to meet with guys alone – so if you are ok with having a pastor along for the ride to pray with us, that would be amazing 
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Bless you and love in Christ.
Bene – Mt. 18:15-17 would be a great scripture for you to read as well as scripture is clear that if you have an issue with someone you are to go to them in private first (which you have never done with me). Because of that, I can take very little of what you have posted sincerely as you have not walked with biblical integrity on this basic level.
I would be interested to know what church you go to and who you are walking in relational accountability to (I did not see this on your blog, maybe it is there)? Some of your comments are potentially libelous – which is a crime in Canada. I want to be clear and say that I am not pointing this out as a threat – just as a fact which you may not be aware of. It is likely something you should be aware of if you continue to run blogs like this. If you have gone after me in this way, you will go after others. Perhaps not everyone would be as friendly about it
. Just watching you back bro 
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Grace….and John I would love to go for that coffee and get to share hearts and a prayer together.
Nite and blessings again!
Faytene
John:
You might find this useful: http://coveringandauthority.com/
Faytene:
Glad you popped back, there is nothing wrong with curiousity.
Im not going to ignore an iron fist in a velvet glove and let what you said slip by, even with a smiley face.
You tell me what is slanderous and libelous here and we’ll take it from there.
Faytene
Mat 18 doesn’t apply to every situation with conflict. It is true that people should work out differences in private if possible. However when that fails other people come in to the situation as advocates. If that fails then leaders should be publicly rebuked. 1Tim 5:19.
In this situation John may have attempted to resolve the situation or watch other people attempt to resolve the situation with no resolution.
It seems like a cop out to say “I’m not going to listen to you because you said it in the wrong way.” It really doesn’t matter where we hear the truth. We are called to repent if someone points our sin, regardless of how they do it.
Reconciliation isn’t a game where we say certain goals don’t count because a toe was in the crease.
I know who Bene is accountable to and I don’t think it is any of your business.
If you have embraced false teaching then the greater church has every right to bring to light that which is in darkness.
If you believe Bene has libeled you then why didn’t you contact Bene in private to resolve the differences? Wouldn’t following Mat 18 be the best response to someone now following Mat 18?
If you were to attempt anything I’d get rid of the smiley faces and the nice words. They really don’t go well with accusations of libel.
Faytene
2004 Peace Portal Alliance Worship Invasion Venue
Ed Rubuliak comes in with a fellow who looks mixed race (half black,half white) who speaks in tongues with no interpretation and lays hands on people and slays them in the spirit.
I saw the fellow running over and praying over two young boys at Fresh Fire pointing his finger either at me ot in my direction a king of body language that rebukes something.
Quickly I was taken aside and one said,
“Do you know you are never allowed to go to a Fresh Fire Conference again because you prayed over a woman and took the ring off of her finger”
From there matters go worse
Cordial Hall Extreme Prophetic Venue
You, Faytene come and knew my name saying, “John Paysar, I don’t like you, you’re standing on private property we own the building I rebuke you in the name of Jesus”, then started to try to shove me down the sidewalk.
It is very obvious that Worship Invasion gossiped to you about me.
Worship Invasion probably thought they had a prophetic vision but this was mistaken identity otherwise called slander.
Or, they could’ve or did notice how closely I notice things, which is my nature, and could’ve thought I was checking them out and would notice something that they did not want me to notice, things that the younger persons might not notice, and the Worship Invasion persons became threatened by me.
If this is true, they could’ve made up the accusation to get rid of me and end any worries of assuming anybody -checking them out-.
If this is true, they could’ve passed on the gossip to you to warn you about me so you could get rid of me too.
The truth is, I go to many lectures, etc, and like to research things am quite happy go lucky and things go smoothly but not so in these cases.
Bene D
I agree with the statement Hit n Run
I might add kick em when they’re down
Bene D
With the ‘Hit n Run’ or ‘Kick em when they’re down’ might be a product of our Canadian Laws that treats assault as a slap on the wrist
In 2000 I’d worked out with weights at Brittannia Gym 1/2 hr Universal Gym 1/2 hr Free Weights till closing at 10pm, Sauna, etc till 10:40pm then walked 1 mile home.(Done this from 97-2000)
Was 4 blocks from home when a person on probation who, a year earlier had met someone in Covenant House and they lived together on North Van and the landlord would give them a rent reduction if they painted.
So, Vincent Portelle did and felt he only should get the rent reduction so he drank a bottle of sweet Sambuca 23% Alc
puts his roomate in a headlock and punches him in the head 40 times
He’s put on 2 years probation
1 year, 1 day is his half sister’s 18th birthday
At Commercial Dr & 2nd he stood in front of his family apt becuase he’d been asked to leave the pool hall due to his behaviour
I walk by he puts his right arm around me and punches me with his left and lets me go
I was so tired after the gym
He stands over me and watches me have a seizure
I suffered a cracked skull bruised brain 13/15 injury
Could’ve died
Vancouver General Hosp
1 wk intensive care
2 wks stroke ward (symptoms but didn’t have stroke)
3 wks GF Strong Rehab
Yeah, you could have died, I’m so sorry, you experienced a serious assault.
John you gotta stop hanging out with extreme worship groups, who name themselves like they were wrestling teams:
Worship Invasion, Extreme Prophetic, The Cry, Fresh Fire;^)
Bene D
Yes, I agree with you
I would never go near anything like this again
In 2004, 4 years after my injury, the signs of a medical history were probably more evident and the above 3 groups probably noticed this too and took advantage of it too.
That is not nice and that is sad.
It is also discriminating against a person with a disability.
I, like practically everybody I know have -never heard of such groups-
The names have, along with their exteme names, a Extreme themes.
In the BC Christian News article about the Todd Bentley Fresh Fire Lakeland Florida Outpouring a person from Todd’s home town, Abbotsford mentioned, “This of an Extremist Charismatic Fringe”
The above three are sects of an Extremist Charismatic Christian Fringe
Persons at the Prayer Book Society said, “Just stay away”
The Editor of the Prayer Book Society has a husband who’s a doctor. His Doctor friend dealt with an organization that dealt with person in Liberia and stopped being involved then got the Editor’s husband involved instead.
Faytene Kryskow was involved with this group and went to the Editor’s house.
The Editor said, “Faytene was going on about this Prophetic Vision stuff”, etc, the Editor was not too impressed.
The Editor makes us a nice dinner every Tuesday
She, as well as her husband are very nice
He recommended the book: ‘The Scapegoat’ by Rene Girard
The Theme is about the scapegoat mechanism throughout history when a problem starts within a group that needs to be solved within or to have another person(s) come in to help.
This doesn’t happen and also there is another person who never got to join the group
The blame for the problems are put upon that person
That person is ‘The Scapegoat’
I am ‘The Scapegoat’
I e-mailed this to the Priest and he want to talk to the Editor to research and investigate this
I think they were probably threatened by me because they thought I might notice something
I research and investigate so many things and the three above names I’d never heard of anything before nor had anything happen like that before
I’m usually pretty happy go lucky:
After work, I go to the Central Library till 9pm closing and ride the 20 Victoria Bus home. It goes down East Hastings and some persons come on from the bars. Sometimes an older person who’s been drinking and in a happy mood will come up to me and say, “You look like Peter Fonda”, I do, a bit.
Or, if a younger person who’s been drinking and in a happy mood comes up to me says, “You look like Angus Young from AC/DC”, I do, a bit.
One of my customers, who is full native, from the interior took me to the Native Penecostal Church and somebody came up to me and said, “Are you her grandson?”
She replied to me, “My grandchildren are half native and half white and they look a lot like you”
Lessons Learned:
What can be learned from events is and can be a healing process
Good conduct:
-being present
-professional distance
-communicating by looking up and listening
-or, if necessary, prompt communication
I go to lectures and events at and put on by:
-The Vancouver Public Library Central Branch
-The Red Cross
-Regent College
-Vancouver School of Theology
-Vancouver Architectural Institute walking tours
-John Atkins Vancouver Historian walking tours
So, there is a side of me that likes to research things
To Bene D
The reasons Faytene Kryskow really ‘popped in’ is because I’d e-mailed Janey #1370 on Pulpit & Politics and e-mailed Jonathan Evans Salvation Army War College
Library is now closed
I’ll give you a complete e-mail next day
Bene D
Faytene commented on your blog after I’d e-mailed:
Jonathan Evans
Jonathan_Evans@thewarcollege.com
http:www.thewarcollege.com/
where he is faculty,Faytene Kryskow, Patricia King are visting faculty, Wes, Stacy Campbell are Board of Reference
Janey Melnychuk (comment 1370 on ‘The Cry’ Pulpit & Politics)
sjmelnychuk@gmail.com
http://rainbowjaneygirl.blogspot.com/
Bene D
I’d e-mailed to Janey and Jonathan your websights(this one) and your ‘Dennis Gruending’: Bio & Pulpit & Politics: The Cry
http://www.thewarcollege.com/
Faculty: Jonathan Evans
Visting Faculty: Faytene Kryskow, Patricia King
(Patricia King is the head of Extreme Prophetic and Faytene was EP, Van)
Board of Reference: Wes, Stacy Campbell
(Stacy is the head of a Prophetic Council)
Bene D
Wes & Stacy Campbell:
-Stacy is now head of: The Canadian Prophetic Council
http://www.revivalnow.com/
after clicking the above, click Eyes & Wings, click Canadian Prophetic Council
Hey John,
I am just popping in again because I have been praying for you and wanted you to know that the love of God is welling up in my heart as I do.
I am praying that His love, joy, peace, truth, healing and all that is needed in the way of His blessings will overtake you.
GOD BLESS YOU and if you want to take me up on my offer (above) to connect for coffee so I can really understand why you are so troubled in heart, that would be amazing (with a pastoral leader to accompany of course as, I said above, I make a practice of not going for coffee alone with guys). Like I said, I do not remember the incident you are speaking about but would love to understand it a bit more so we can prayerfully process it together in a mature Christian manner. From a quick read of your blog (because I am in a short window of time right now) I can see that there is much misunderstanding.
I pray you have a heart of love and grace that truly wants to see resolution and reconciliation as it seems you have issue with many people. We all know that offense and unforgiveness is one of the most poisonous things to the human heart and we should all do whatever we can to deal with it thoroughly when it is lodged in ours. We are exhorted to this type of Christian love all throughout the Word.
I am praying for you, bless you (big time) and I feel God’s love for you in such a deep way. I know He has great plans for your life and pray you will fulfill them to maximum potential in the nature and character of Jesus.
Take care,
Faytene
ps – I know nothing about an e-mail to Johnathan Evans so you can discount that theory.
Faytene
‘Like I said, ‘I do not remember the incident you were speaking of..’
Back in June 2004,I was the one you shoved down the sidewalk on Pender Street outside the Cordial Hall saying, “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus” and earlier on you’d said, “John Paysar I don’t like you, you are standing on private property we own the building”.
The building, The Cordial Hall is owned by the Killarney Community Center who rented it to Salvation Army War College who’d let Extreme Prophetic use it. The sidewalk is public property.
So, I dont’ know where you got this, “We own the building, you’re on private property”
That’s the incident and that’s who I am.
I’d just come from a Worship Invasion Venue at Peace Portal Alliance where they slandered me saying, “You prayed over a woman and took the ring off of her finger”
It’s funny how you knew my name and I felt quite a lot of contempt on you
Faytene corr:
I felt quite a lot of contempt from you.
Comment 22 Leighton Tebay
Very well typed and insightful
I’ve worked in Customer Service in the same place for 17 years.
Quick and prompt communication and replies that is professional in a stressful situation is not my strongest point.
Sometimes, I’ll just sit back and say nothing
With the 2 groups Worship Invasion and Extreme Prophetic, the persons I met seemed overly worked up.
How can anybody resolve anything in that state
I like to so to a lot of different lectures, etc.
I like to research things too
Maybe they were alarmed by this afraid I’ll find out something they don’t want me to find.
Perhaps they had a confused Vision of communication or were looking for a way to get rid of me for good by making up a rumour about me
How many times have they done thingd like this before?
If it was to a younger person, the person might leave not knowing what to do never heard from again
I was a bit older and alone.
So, they might’ve felt threatened on one hand.
On another hand, since I was alone, I had no witnesses that could back me up.
This is really quite sad, though, considering all of the lectures I go to where all goes well.
Bene
I’ve noticed you’ve contacted Jonathan Evans from the Vancouver Salvation Army War College about the NAR. I think the dialogue is good
Jonathan Evans was the person I’d contacted on letter #7 you’d responded to on letter #8
We have a couple of women who come to our Prayer Book Society on Tues at St John’s (Shaughnessy) Anglican Church on Granville & W27th in Vancouver that lean towards NAR. Both seem to like Todd Bentley and Faytene Kryskow.
One goes on about liking to see healing, doesn’t like to hear me talk to her about St Augustine’s or John Wesley’s, or me ancestor Rev John Payzant’s conversions.
She conciders this to be old and uses the scripture the church is the same yesterday, today and forever.
I mentioned that the above three I mentioned were once new and alive on earth, putting their experiences into writing to benefit those after they pass on.
She mentions in a certain way about bringing heaven down to earth sounded kind of funny to me like a NAR belief.
They don’t really like to listen or hear others. They will hear what they want to hear are things that enforces their beliefs, that way they don’t have to change them.
The Editor of the Prayer Book Society sais, “they’re convinced their belief is correct and one got heated with me that we do liturgical prayer and when others are talking to them, they are not listening, they are only thinking about what to say next.
One brought her oil painting of the logo for the Canadian Prophetic Council and a video of Watchmen for the Nations.
The Editor also met Faytene Kryskow and said, “she was going on about all this prophetic stuff and I was not too impressed”