After Palin finished her remarks this morning, the man holding the stuffed monkey seemed to notice that a video camera was pointed at him, at which point he removed the Obama sticker from the doll’s head and crumpling it up in his hand. He then handed the doll to a young boy who was watching the rally from his father’s shoulders. The boy’s parents later told CBS News that they weren’t acquainted with the man who gave their son the stuffed monkey.
It isn’t going to stop, I think McCain/Palin don’t care they’ve uncorked this bottle.
Why Is Palin Such a Good Liar for God:
Let me explain…
The Evangelicals live in a resentment-fueled, inward-looking subculture. They are convinced that the world is out to get them and put them at a perpetual disadvantage. They equate knowledge, facts and education with an elite that they feel belittled by.
The Evangelical “base” have unwittingly become the enemy of democracy. They are democracy’s enemy because a grossly misinformed Evangelical public that celebrates its ignorance is the antithesis of an informed people who can manage their own affairs. Bush was their boy… twice! Enough said.
It is to the white ghetto of willfully ignorant Evangelical Americans to whom Sarah Palin is aiming her smears and lies (and not so subtle racism) about Senator Obama and his “terrorist connection” and his being “not a real American like us.” Palin’s lies depend for their success on those who are willfully blind to facts. It’s the same obdurate blindness that allows a segment of the American public to still believe that Saddam Hussein was behind the attacks of 9/11. But it goes further than that.
The Republican leadership and John McCain are counting on Palin’s grass roots sincerity that most Republican leaders no longer have. Palin is a true believer. And true believers put the mission they sincerely believe in — that God has “laid on their hearts” — above mere details such as truth or honesty, let alone honor. They also speak with conviction.
Palin doesn’t actually believe the rehearsed smears she’s telling about Obama, but she does believe that she is morally right in lying.
If lies will help her win, Palin believes God’s will is being done. McCain just wants to win an election. Palin has bigger fish to fry. Her “call” is to restore America to its “Christian heritage.”
Barak Obama thanked John McCain earlier in the day for ‘taking some of the personal sting out of an increasingly venomous campaign’
“I appreciated his reminder that we can disagree while still being respectful of each other,” Obama said during a Pennsylvania campaign swing.
“I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Sen. McCain has served this country with honor, and he deserves our thanks for that.”
While Palin campaigned in Pennsylvannia, McCain was in Iowa. His rally was opened with prayer.
Before McCain spoke, a Christian pastor offered a prayer that seemed to ask for divine intervention on his behalf. “There are millions of people around this world praying to their God — whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah — that [McCain's] opponent wins for a variety of reasons,” Pastor Arnold Conrad said. “And, Lord, I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens.”
The Evangelical Free Church – wiki
. . . .The Evangelical “base†have unwittingly become the enemy of democracy. They are democracy’s enemy because a grossly misinformed Evangelical public that celebrates its ignorance is the antithesis of an informed people who can manage their own affairs.
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Do the likes of McVety or Mainse or Coren admit to these
assumptions? Is Harper one of these persons?
If these require a “yes” answer, then one should carefully
consider where to put the X come election day.
The quote iss broad, sweeping, perhaps more than a little harsh. Without a doubt this race looks very different from Ohio than it does from Ontario, but I rather doubt the Evangelical ‘world’ is as monolithic as portrayed.
I’m an Evangelical and I’m having a hard time seeing myself in his statement. Perhaps he could have said, “fundamentalist’. His description of a “…resentment-fueled, inward-looking subculture. They are convinced that the world is out to get them…” could fit fundalmentalists from any number of religions, or political parties, for that matter.
Sure, we have our own brand of American inspired religous rightists here in Canader, along with prosperity gospel preachers, Home Depot and the Gap. But the rhetoric can only further alienate and inflame. Maybe we could all just take a step back from the abyss.
I don’t have Schaeffer’s book handy – and I don’t know if his readers can assume he means fundamentalists. He’s making more of a political statement than a religious one.
Most evangelicals don’t buy into NAR third wave dominionism, are not ruled, guided or duped by that heresy.
Palin is not the first in US government, nor will she be the last.
We have an election Tuesday, we’ll see another minority and I believe Harper is trying to to get rid of our Palins or at least keep them marginalized.
I know it’s Schaeffer’s piece and not yours, Bene, but can you point to a “lie” that Palin has uttered, other than any spun points.
For instance, one of his allies, a William Ayers, was a Vietnam-era anti-war bomber (and unrepentant to this day) which would warrant a terrorist label in 20/20 hindsight. Thus, a “connection with terrorism” isn’t a lie but might overstate the case a notch.
You’re giving Schaeffer’s allegation of Palin a front-and-center hearing here. I’d like you to back up where you think Palin’s lies are.
@rhymes with kerouac
I quite agree with you . The word fundamentalist should
be the operative word here. Evangelical is too broad and
fundamentalist is more accurate.
There was an article here several weeks ago about a
musician who disclosed his homosexuality and the article
talked about Evangelicals. I pointed out that fundamentalist
should have been used and Bene Diction agreed with me.
It’s easy to interchange one for the other.
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@Mark Byron
. . . can you point to a “lie†that Palin has uttered, . . .
I wonder about that and the quality of reporting about
the woman. She says her family is off limits but parades
the around like a dog fancier and his/her golden retriever.
It says much about a nation when the quality of candidates
for public office are less than optimum and the quality of
critical analysis of public opinion leaves much to be desired.
That is a great shame for both the US and Canada.
We Canadians can remedy the poor leadership this
coming Tuesday and bring major change and the
restoration of trust in leaders so sadly lacking these
last 2 1/2 years.
Mark, that’s fair.
It’s Thanksgiving here, and I’m between locations, family etc. You deserve an answer if there is one available. I’ll get to it when I can. I put Schaeffer up after all…
Mark:
You asked for specifics, not just spin.
Addressing Schaeffer’s examples, I’ll try to delineate lies of commission or omission.
If I have put something under what you think is spin, say so.
I’ll address what I understand Schaeffer to be pointing out as lies.
Schaeffer says:
1) “It is to the white ghetto of willfully ignorant Evangelical Americans to whom Sarah Palin is aiming her smears and lies (and not so subtle racism) about Senator Obama and his “terrorist connection” and his being “not a real American like us.”
3) He references her theological beliefs: young earth, to dinosaurs roaming the planet alongside men, to the nature of global warming, to Israel’s place of primacy in the prophetic “End Times” and, lately, as to the causes of the economic meltdown.
4) He states: As we close in on the 2008 election, the increasingly desperate Republicans will do what they have learned to do best: court the sincere but misinformed Evangelical voters by lying to them.
I’ll place his reference to Republican under group, spin, party,campaign organizers, not an individual.
The terrorist connection – Afghanistan
“[Obama] said, too, that our troops in Afghanistan are ‘air raiding villages and killing civilians,’
October 6, 2008 Jacksonville Fla.
Nashua, New Hampshire August 2007 Obama was talking about increasing ground troops in Afghanistan.
“Now you have narco drug lords who are helping to finance the Taliban,so we’ve got to get the job done there [in Afghanistan], and that requires us to have enough troops that we are not just air raiding villages, and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there.”
Palin again:
“Now,” she declared, “Barack Obama had said that all we’re doing in Afghanistan is air-raiding villages and killing civilians. And such a reckless, reckless comment and untrue comment, again, hurts our cause. That’s not what we’re doing there. We’re fighting terrorists, and we’re securing democracy…”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/say-it-aint-so-sarah-pali_n_131841.html
The terrorist connection – Iranian leader
October 5, 2008 Sarah Palin:
“And since he got called up on his plans to meet unconditionally with terror state leaders like [Iranian President] Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, will now claim that he was unaware of his radical background?”
September 23, 2008 Obama released a statement condemning Ahmadinejad’s remarks, he has not claimed to be unaware.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/amandascott/gGg9vp
The terrorist connection – Bill Ayers
Sarah Palin Englewood Colordo October 4th
“Our opponent … is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he’s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country.”
Sarah Palin October 5th Clearwater Fla
“This is someone who sees America as ‘imperfect enough’ to work with a former domestic terrorist who targeted his own country.”
Sarah Palin October 7th Pensacola Fla:
“He didn’t know that he had launched his campaign in the living room of a domestic terrorist? The story keeps changing and the claims keep getting more and more curious, so what next? Claiming that he didn’t know that two of his supporters were running Fannie Mae, the subprime mortgage giant?”
The Democratic Party claims Obama didn’t know Ayers violent past in 1995 when he hosted him during his first run for office. I’m dubious about that Democratic claim.
It is also known they served on The Woods Fund 1999-2002. The board has meet 12 times.
How has the Obama campaign changed the story?
He was 8 years old when Ayers participated in domestic terrorism.
I don’t see where the story has changed.
Sarah Palin is correct. Ayers is a former domestic terrorist and Vietnam protester. He didn’t do time – charges against him were dropped because of prosecutorial misconduct.
The Washington Post has a timeline of the Obama/Ayers story.
Ayers contributed $200.00 to Obama’s 2001 re-election campaign.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_connection.html
Barak Obama campaign:
Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.
The terrorist connection – Rev. Jeremiah Wright
Sarah Palin William Kristol interview:
“To tell you the truth, Bill, I don’t know why that association isn’t discussed more, because those were appalling things that that pastor had said about our great country, and to have sat in the pews for 20 years and listened to that — with, I don’t know, a sense of condoning it, I guess, because he didn’t get up and leave — to me, that does say something about character. But, you know, I guess that would be a John McCain call on whether he wants to bring that up.â€
John McCain made that call in April – if people are going to yell out “Arab” the campaign can’t condemn Obama as being a former member in Wright’s church. Can’t play that both ways.
Wright is not a terrorist.
This Republican blog, points out how Wright has been perceived. http://flapsblog.com/2008/10/06/sarah-palin-watch-putting-jeremiah-wright-in-play/
Barak Obama personal statement regarding Wright:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/on-my-faith-and-my-church_b_91623.html
Fackcheck.org VP debate: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_biden-palin_debate.html
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/07/palin-keeps-focus-ayers-ahead-debate/
I have not found any reference to Palin stating her opponent is “not a real American like us.”
As for Palin’s theology, her belief are known and consistent with her ties with neopentecostal dominionists.
Has there been lies of omission? I think so. Videos scrubbed off church websites etc.
Doesn’t matter what I think Mark, it’s your election.
The Council for National Policy wanted her, they got her.
It’s up to voters in the US on whether or not to keep her.
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the American flag, carrying the cross.” – Sinclair Lewis 1935
Sarah Palin Sunday October 12th
“The GOP Vice-Presidential nominee saved her most scathing assault when talking about the Born Alive Protection Act, “Most troubling though, most troubling even, is that as a State Senator, Barack Obama wouldn’t even stand up for the rights of infants born alive during an abortion. These infants, often babies with special needs, they’re simply left to die. And in 2002, Congress unanimously passed a federal law to require medical care. They are living breathing babies. But Sen. Obama describes them as pre-viable. Sen. Obama is a politician who has long since left behind even the middle ground on the issue of life.â€
Obama voted against the “Born Alive” bill because it was so poorly-crafted. He’s on record as stating that he’d support a similar bill as long as it was worded in such a way that it didn’t endanger abortion rights.
The Reality Check.org
http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/Barack_Obama_Abortion.htm
Sarah Palin is an American.
Canadians have an election tomorrow – why are we not focusing on Harper and his ‘evangelical’ connections?
Shouldn’t Canadians be more concerned with our candidates then Palin? She is not running in our country or running our country.
If Harper is elected then we can worry about Palin and McCain.
Until then, let’s focus on tomorrow.
I don’t see a correlation between worrying about whoever is elected where Sherm.
It is interesting on both sides of the border, and fun to learn and discuss.
Why have I said what I’ve said about Palin or Harper or any politician who stoops to basement level attacks? Because I don’t see silence as an option. Worry isn’t the default position here. To comment on Palin’s behavior is not negating our responsibility this side of the border.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/opinion/12rich.html?_r=2&ei=5070&emc=eta1&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
Maybe what you call lies what Palin said. Maybe they are in fact truth? The fact remains Obama shouldn’t even be in the same room with Ayers. He should have had no connection whatsoever to Rezko. He should have renonuced fully the comments made by John Lewis a man McCain has more than admired publically. How about the attacks on Palin and McCain which began first? How about being even handed?
And yes you are in Canada and really have no right to attack any candidate of the US. You can disagree with policies but to perpetrate your own lies needs to stop.
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