The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is a dominionist aberrant branch of neo-pentecostalism, often called Third Wave/Joel’s Army.
The Vancouver Salvation Army appears to have succumbed to this authoritarian new age gnostic heresy, by willfully training and sponsoring apostle/shepherding/covering heretical teachers at The War College: leaders from 2006-2007 and from what the page says into 2008.
The War Collogege Board of Reference: General Shaw Clifton, General Eva Burrows, Stacey Campbell, Wesley Campbell, Lieut-Colonel Don Copple, Dr. David Demian, Commissioner Wesley Harris, Commissioner Phil Needham, Major Chick Yuill.
Faculty: Major Jamie Braund, General Eva Burrows, Michael Collins, Jonathan Evans, Faytene Kryskow, Jeni Parsons, Colonel Earl Robinson, Aaron White.
Visiting: Major Doug Burr, Commissioner Wesley Harris, General Eva Burrows, Major Janet Munn, Major Richard Munn, Captain Robert Marshall, Elaine Gillingham, Ian Gillingham.
 All courses are required for graduation. Content is subject to change.
The Battle School is happy to partner with C. Peter Wagner’s Institute. If the Salvation Army is choosing to move into neo-pentecostal beliefs, there goes the organization. If this is their choice, this is not a charity orthodox Christians can support.
I find it almost impossible to believe The Salvation Army in Canada would permit this heresy. A couple of Sally Ann’s in the US have also jumped into ‘The River’.  More at Talk2Action.
The Vancouver curriculum is here. To see an institution such as the SA succumbing to the extra-biblical delusion NAR teaches is shocking. You might as well waste your charitable giving to the good the Sally Ann does and just buy stuff off the Elijah List or support people such as C. Peter Wagner, Todd Bentley, Dutch Sheets, Rick Joyner, God TV… with the tithes they demand.
My question to the Salvation Army is this: why not just train with Scientology - NAR is just as spiritually and sociallly damaging and heretical to the core.Â
New Apostolic Reformation
Third Wave
Manifest Sons of God – Joel’s Army
Kingdom Now Theology
C. Peter Wagner
Cephas Files -extensive look at C. Peter Wagner’s organizations, teachings and plans
Cross+Word -Â Trish Tillen’s extensive apologetics on these movements
The Canadian Salvation Army Mission and Statement of Faith and Values
The War College Strategy and Goals (Third Wave/Dominionist)
Stacy Campbell – one of the leaders listed by Canadian Salvation Army War College giving one of her false prophecies. As you can see by the Sally Ann Mission statement, The Salvation Army encourages a healthy spiritual, emotional, mental and physical lifestyle. Deception, lying and delusion is not that lifestyle.
Interesting. My own experiences with the Salvation Army have not been pleasant–they run a toxic workplace in Ottawa, and they’re openly homophobic.
OT, but Happy New Year to you and yours, Bene.
Jeez, get with the programme BD. It’s all here – down to a dissection of the word ‘Canada’ – which actually makes sense!
http://www.watchmen.org/Gatherings/montreal-04-the-vision-transcripts.asp
Thanks for that Raspberry Rabbit:^) I hadn’t scoured Watchman for the Nations ‘prophecies;’ it’s like trying to wade through The Elijah list. Seriously depressing and crazy making.
Dr. Dawg: The SA has been a mixed bag, when they have good chapters I’ve seen the best. It’s an organization with the same bad apples any group has. I’ve not personally seen homophopia but obviously it exists, I’ve seen arrogance, but the job got done.
For the most part I’ve seen outstanding work by the SA, if they are going to partner their training with NAR, they might as well toss out their mission statement and ideals.
Interesting.
If I remember my history, the SA is a Methodist offshoot devoted to helping the poor; I went years not knowing it was a church as well as a poverty-fighting group. They were one offshoot of the Holiness movement that sprang out of various Methodist branches in the 1800s.
Another one of those branches is modern Pentecostals, who primarily came out of Holiness churches at the turn of the last century. So, it’s not that surprising that one SA branch went off the charismatic deep end; the Holiness churches tend to breed perfectionism, and that can tend to draw out the mystic side of Christianity as people seek to draw closer to God and experience more of Him.
As a center-right mainline church, there’s more of a variety of flavors in the SA, ranging from mainline to evangelical, and in your Vancouver case, over-the-top charismatic. You’ll often see more variety in theology in mainline churches than more evangelical ones, which can create problems on both the left and “right” (if you can call the NAR folks “right”).
As a theologically conservative group, they can get tarred with the “homophobic” label, especially in the modern usage of being against homosexual behavior.
NAR’s problems go way beyond homophobic, Mark, that’s not my beef with them.
Nor do I have a beef with ‘the mystic side’ of Christianity.
Nor have I had a problem with any of our ‘mainstream’ denominations making room for evangelicals.
I can appreciate and honour the Sally Ann’s conservative theology, as I read their covenant, pledge for members, history etc., around this story; they hold personal theological positions that once again makes me grateful they have wisely stayed out of politics and cared for our poor.
I could not in good faith join the Army anymore than I could the SBC, but I have respected their values and faithfulness and been privileged to see first hand their care for our vulnerable.
The Salvation Army has managed throughout it’s history to remain theologically orthodox – allowing Wagner followers free reign with the 614 plan puts that region squarely into aberrancy.
NAR goes way past being a ‘holiness’ offshoot and way past their claim of being ‘primitive salvationists.’
I’m stunned and saddened Third Wave/New Apostolic beliefs have been allowed a foot in this denominational door.
I can’t pretend The Canadian Salvation Army has made a good or wise decision, and it’s okay. It isn’t.
This is a fair summary – A Strong Delusion
As leader of this school, I believe approaching me and having a visit would offset your concerns with two members of our board and our curriculum. I would welcome a dialogue on who we are, what we do and what we believe.
Jonathan:
I must be missing something – you are associated with NAR, and what you believe is not hidden.
Hey Bene,
I did some reading on the links you left, and then some googling of the 614 vancouver stuff. I guess I get what you’re concerned about on a macro level, but i came across some blogs of some of the people that are part of the 614 and i was really taken aback by the stories they were sharing of their everyday life in that hellhole of canada called the downtown eastside of vancouver. I gotta give props for that – it was really humbling to read about folks who are living with the addict, the mentally ill, the drunk and basically society’s castoffs as their neighbor and doing their best to love them like Jesus did when He was here. Shakey heads or not, it sounded like the Kingdom of God to me.
Thanks for bringing all this to my attention! And to a forefront for discussion.
I’m sortof surprised by your response to “Jonathan”, I guess I expected more of a dialogue on your part.
Thanks!
Hi Ruhani:
Jonathan and I would have a difficult time talking – we’re coasts apart.
That having been said if I was out his way, I’d have coffee with him.
He’s clear about what he believes – his organization is part of NAR – C. Peter Wagners apostle group.
Good for you for looking up the 614 area.
Here is basic information on The New Apostolic Reformation and why there isn’t much Johnathan and I can dialogue about.
http://www.deceptionbytes.com/taxonomy/term/11
I preface this post by noting that I am not a member of 614 but am a member of the Salvation Army. You identify yourself as an “Broadcast Journalist” & appears that you have fallen victim with what is so wrong with your vocation. “Broadcast Journalists” have little time to research a particular subject – and even less time to present any other side of that subject so they present their perceived version of it. To employ a broad-sweeping judgement of The Salvation Army as a whole based on your perceptions of 614, a tiny offshoot of it, is tantamount to judging humanity as criminally insane because a tiny portion of it is. It appears that you have expended little or no focused specific investigation about 614 & its place within the Salvation Army. In your reply to Ruhani you indicate that you would have (inferring that you haven’t contacted Jonathan) a difficult time talking with Jonathan because you live “coasts apart” however that seems to have little validity in this internet age. I don’t know what I find more discouraging, your (uniformed) judgement of 614 or your subsequent tarring of the entire church ministry with the same brush. (Edward R Murrow must be spinning in his grave – or wherever the LORD’s judgement has sent him.) Do the right thing; do your research (including contacting Jonathan directly) THEN write your blog.
Proverbs 18:17 “He who pleads his cause first seems right; until another comes and questions him.”
I look at Mark’s comments at #4 and see that the SA
stems from Methodism.
I remember reading that one of the greatest losses
to the Church of England was the departure of
the Wesleyan Methodists.
In view of what’s happening at the SA, I wonder
what could have happened to the C of E if the
Methodists had stayed.
Moreover, where would western evangelicalism
be if there had been no separation of the Methodists?
Bill:
You know you’re right, Jonathan should have a bigger say and I think I’ll work on arranging that.
To both Jonathan Evans & Dennis Gruending
I think continuing dialogue would be healthy and good.
I’ve talked with Jonathan Evans as to how I was treated by Worship Invasion and then Faytene Kryskow after WI slandered me by saying, “You prayed over a woman and took the ring off of her finger”.
Neither of these groups were nice and there was no reason for this.
They don’t want to resolve or hear and I don’t see why they wouldn’t or couldn’t.
I don’t think they should be allowed to do this and get away with it
At my church, the Editor of the Prayer Book Society about what had happened to me with WI and Faytene, she said, “Some people feel if a thought came from them it came from God but these people have bad theology”
She’s met Faytene before too and was not impressed.
A lawyer at my church said, “They probably thought they had a vision”
It is obvious what they heard and thought did not come from God nor was it a vision and nor do they admit it is dangerous and scary
The Salvation Army does a lot of good things in the Downtown Eastside of Vancouver
I’ve gone onto Bene Diction’s Blog telling what happened to me and I found Dennis Gruending to have a good amount of insight and research
I live right across the street from a salvation army in Seattle Washington. I am hoping and praying that NAR would come to the sight were we are. I have been in the Apostolic for years now, and it has saved my life from Religion and has show me life and fulfillment of the word of God! It has reduce the crime rate in our commuity down to almost 0%. and has raised up new homes and and released wealth in to our hoods.
What religion were you saved from Timothy and how do you define apostolic? If I asked you to define NAR what would you say?
How has your choice reduced the crime rate, how many new homes were needed and what does release wealth into your hood mean?
You mention fulfillment of the word of God. What does that mean to you?