Peter Kirk at Gentle Wisdom wonders whether a Todd Bentley Facebook page which showed up the same time a Bentley MySpace did a few weeks ago is legitimate.

Again there is no proof or confirmation that this is genuinely from Todd.

True.  Kirk isn’t sure the Bentley MySpace page is Bentley’s either, as a fan and follower is inclined to be less suspicious about it than the Facebook page, “The Official Todd Bentley Facebook Page.’ If this is not Bentley’s or authorized and officially condoned by Bentley then misreprentation is occurring. Kirk had this to say about Bentley allegedly surfacing on MySpace.

It is certainly true that someone has set up a Myspace page in Todd’s name. This appears to be new, with a signup date of 16th December 2008.

I cannot confirm what is stated in the post, that the Myspace page has been set up by Todd himself, or at least by someone acting on his behalf. There is surely the possibility that this is an unofficial page set up by someone wanting to blacken Todd’s name even further – or my a misguided supporter. But it does look quite genuine.

Peter Kirk made a fair observation- looking over the Facebook Eula, (end user licence agreement)  Peter Kirk’s concern could have merit; whoever set up the site (if it wasn’t Bentley or authorized by Bentley) they are allegedly writing as Bentley, uploading allegedly Bentley owned pics and selling Bentley product.

The “One of The Fan Page Admins” at Facebook says they went to work for Fresh Fire Ministries Canada and couldn’t get a visa,  headed back to the US, worked at Lakeland selling Bentley product; and they are now selling Bentley product through a Bentley Facebook page.

From One of The Fan Page Admins:

Discussion page # 4:After the internship I tried to stay in Canada so I had to apply for a visitors visa (couldn’t find a Canadian to marry, lol). I waited forever, got a job with Fresh Fire (ministry I did my internship with) so I thought surely God would hook me up with the visitors visa. Nope! I was denied. I thought I had done something wrong, like being punished or something, no clue why I would have thought that. Any how I got hired by fresh fire to travel in the US and handle their product…

Product links go to Bentley’s private company  Sound of Fire Productions.  Bentley is no longer President of Fresh Fire Ministries so why is it a stretch to question why a former Fresh Fire person is selling Bentley product?  Has he authorized this person to set up this Facebook page, use his name sell his stuff, use what may be Bentley’s photos and reprint at least one of Bentley’s articles in full? Without author authorization isn’t that illegal copyright violation?

These are all apparent violations of Facebook terms:

“You represent, warrant and agree that no materials of any kind submitted through your account or otherwise posted, transmitted, or shared by you on or through the Service will violate or infringe upon the rights of any third party, including copyright, trademark, privacy, publicity or other personal or proprietary rights; or contain libelous, defamatory or otherwise unlawful material.”

Bentley’s stuff is his, now that he is no longer president of his former Canadian Fresh Fire Ministries, his product has been transferred to his parents private site.  

Is  the Facebook acknowledged admin in further violation?

“register for more than one User account, register for a User account on behalf of an individual other than yourself, or register for a User account on behalf of any group or entity;
impersonate any person or entity”

And this:

“use or attempt to use another’s account, service or system without authorization from the Company, or create a false identity on the Service or the Site.”

And this:

“You may not post, transmit, or share User Content on the Site or Service that you did not create or that you do not have permission to post”

Facebook Marketplace Eula:

“You may not list any item for sale, lease or rent that is not in your possession or that you do not have the right to sell lease or rent at the time the item is listed.”

“You must own or otherwise have the right to use all photographs used in any Listings, and such photographs must accurately represent the item involved in your transaction.”

Peter Kirk can make his concern known to Facebook. Though Facebook requests the person allegedly being misrepresented (Todd Bentley) should do so,  what if Bentley doesn’t know? I’m sure Facebook pursue legitimate concerns from concerned citizens. I don’t Facebook, those who do, have a right to express their uneasiness to the Facebook company.

http://www.facebook.com/copyright.php


4 Responses to “Is Todd Bentley getting ripped off at Facebook?”

  1. 1 Peter Kirk 

    Bene, if I had real concerns about either of these sites I would report them. But I don’t. I just have no proof that these sites are genuine. But neither do I have any evidence that they are fraudulent. In fact I think they are probably genuine. If anyone has any evidence that they are fraudulent, those people should report the sites, and make their evidence public if appropriate.

  2. 2 Bene D 

    I respect the fact you don’t believe everything you read.

    They are genuine or fake – given they represent a person and his company there is no ‘middle’ unless he gives permission to represent him as an official agent.

    Thanks for raising the question, it’s certainly legitimate, the onus isn’t on you to prove anything, that is the responsibility of the page owners.

  3. 3 Rick Hiebert 

    My guess is that the person who signed in as “Todd Bentley” is TB’s intern, and that the person in the comments signing in as merely “Todd” is Mr. Bentley.

    This is set up as what Facebook calls a “Fan Page” for a public figure. Anyone can set one up. But…if people are fooled into thinking that “Todd Bentley” is the evangelist when he writes “I was an intern for Todd…etc.” that could certainly be a problem. Facebook should be careful to clear that up for sure…

  4. 4 Bene D 

    Was an intern or is an intern?
    Big difference.

    I’m just guessing also Rick.

    How much do these young people pay to ‘work’ for Bentley?

    It looks like Fackbook has already been by checking out this post, hopefully they will hold these users accountable.

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