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		<title>By: Dominion Centre follower asks Crown to drop kidnapping charges against parents at Bene Diction Blogs On</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I would like to say that anyone without sin cast the first stone. People that don’t understand others or there teachings have a tendency to criticize others. I happen to know the Rigo&#039;s and grew up with them around my life. Peter is a very talented and gifted man of God and Peggy is one of the most sweetest women I know. I recently spoke to Peter about the negative things that are being spoken about him and his church. My assessment is that this is a church that believes in the truth being taught, truth can only be taught if the Holy Spirit is present in ones life. I truly believe that the Holy Spirit is living in and directing  Pastor Rigo. To many people have been caught in a vicious cycle of religion, Christ commanded us the church ( believers to reach out to those who have been rejected and cast out ) Our young generation is lost because of the typical teachings of the church, our world is in desperate need of a man that can stand before people with blemishes and sin and say he is not perfect. What would you rather have , a Pastor that appears to have it all together or a Pastor that can reveal his true self and acknowledge that our society is going to Hell in a hand basket and that change is the only thing that is going make a difference. We all have our own questions and doubts about churches we may attend. we all scream our churches need to change, but when there is a person willing to take a step of faith and put it all on the line, we reject and want to destroy the good in what God is trying to do. Be careful about judging as judgment will reign down on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I would like to say that anyone without sin cast the first stone. People that don’t understand others or there teachings have a tendency to criticize others. I happen to know the Rigo&#8217;s and grew up with them around my life. Peter is a very talented and gifted man of God and Peggy is one of the most sweetest women I know. I recently spoke to Peter about the negative things that are being spoken about him and his church. My assessment is that this is a church that believes in the truth being taught, truth can only be taught if the Holy Spirit is present in ones life. I truly believe that the Holy Spirit is living in and directing  Pastor Rigo. To many people have been caught in a vicious cycle of religion, Christ commanded us the church ( believers to reach out to those who have been rejected and cast out ) Our young generation is lost because of the typical teachings of the church, our world is in desperate need of a man that can stand before people with blemishes and sin and say he is not perfect. What would you rather have , a Pastor that appears to have it all together or a Pastor that can reveal his true self and acknowledge that our society is going to Hell in a hand basket and that change is the only thing that is going make a difference. We all have our own questions and doubts about churches we may attend. we all scream our churches need to change, but when there is a person willing to take a step of faith and put it all on the line, we reject and want to destroy the good in what God is trying to do. Be careful about judging as judgment will reign down on you.</p>
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		<title>By: Bene Diction</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bene Diction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ginny:

The Canadian Council of Christian Charities, the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada anda  few other organizations have the resources and people to help any church or non-profit which isn&#039;t sure how things work, risk management etc.

As well there is plenty of free legal information available for churches, non-profits, volunteer groups

The 200 thousand dollar figure doesn&#039;t make sense.

Was this on TV somewhere recently again? There are a few newer comments.

I went looking and didn&#039;t see a legal fund for the Brun Del family, if one is needed and established I&#039;ll post it.

It&#039;s important people understand that The Dominion Centre did not press the charges against the father and son or the lawyer friend and his wife.

The links to The Dominion Centre are gone, is the group still meeting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginny:</p>
<p>The Canadian Council of Christian Charities, the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada anda  few other organizations have the resources and people to help any church or non-profit which isn&#8217;t sure how things work, risk management etc.</p>
<p>As well there is plenty of free legal information available for churches, non-profits, volunteer groups</p>
<p>The 200 thousand dollar figure doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
<p>Was this on TV somewhere recently again? There are a few newer comments.</p>
<p>I went looking and didn&#8217;t see a legal fund for the Brun Del family, if one is needed and established I&#8217;ll post it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important people understand that The Dominion Centre did not press the charges against the father and son or the lawyer friend and his wife.</p>
<p>The links to The Dominion Centre are gone, is the group still meeting?</p>
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		<title>By: Ginny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if you need $200,000 in legal advice there is something rotten in the state of Denmark. I complied with my audit and there were no legal fees and no charges, do you know why???? I kept clean records. 

Living on the backs of young fragile minds makes you one of the most despicable people alive and I have to agree somewhat with Rock.

Is there a fund for the legal fees of Brun Del&#039;s, although I disagree with what they have done, I understand losing a daughter and understand their desperation, I would contribute in a heartbeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if you need $200,000 in legal advice there is something rotten in the state of Denmark. I complied with my audit and there were no legal fees and no charges, do you know why???? I kept clean records. </p>
<p>Living on the backs of young fragile minds makes you one of the most despicable people alive and I have to agree somewhat with Rock.</p>
<p>Is there a fund for the legal fees of Brun Del&#8217;s, although I disagree with what they have done, I understand losing a daughter and understand their desperation, I would contribute in a heartbeat.</p>
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		<title>By: rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can you say &quot;jim jones&quot; or &quot;jonestown&quot;?
does rigor have koolaid in his cupboard?
with any luck some pissed parent will deal with him in an alley some night!
hes a manipulative loser with a corrupt personal agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can you say &#8220;jim jones&#8221; or &#8220;jonestown&#8221;?<br />
does rigor have koolaid in his cupboard?<br />
with any luck some pissed parent will deal with him in an alley some night!<br />
hes a manipulative loser with a corrupt personal agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 00:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mat 18 doesn’t apply to every situation with conflict. 

It is true that people should work out differences in private if possible. However when that fails other people come in to the situation as advocates. If that fails then leaders should be publicly rebuked. 1Tim 5:19.

You brought up Bruxey (?).  How that church and it&#039;s leadership chooses to deal with an unhappy parishioner who works for a government agency which may affect them organizationally is thier choice. It is also the choice of the government department to recuse this unhappy supervisor if he/she has personal involvement.
 
Many churches and church leadership are trained to handle conflict well.  

The Dominion Christian Centre came under financial scrutiny. They were given the obigatory year to comply to financial issues that were flagged, and could accept advocacy if they chose to. 

When an organization is tax-exempt the records are public. 
If you&#039;re unhappy with that societal decision, say so. 

The Charity Directorate is absolutely capable of making mistakes, having agendas; it&#039;s a government department people work for. 
Bit niave to believe otherwise.

As a structure it has checks and balances so internal abuse is given address. Depending on the parties involved in dispute or conflict, that address may or may not work out, systems (church/government) are far from perfect.

I don&#039;t see anyone disagreeing a story is deeper than a blog post.

If Dominion Christian Centre is Christ-called, a tax-exempt revocation is not going to hinder or destroy their work or calling.  Why would you place so much power in a government department and so little in God?

Do you know how many churches receive revocation notices yearly in Canada?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mat 18 doesn’t apply to every situation with conflict. </p>
<p>It is true that people should work out differences in private if possible. However when that fails other people come in to the situation as advocates. If that fails then leaders should be publicly rebuked. 1Tim 5:19.</p>
<p>You brought up Bruxey (?).  How that church and it&#8217;s leadership chooses to deal with an unhappy parishioner who works for a government agency which may affect them organizationally is thier choice. It is also the choice of the government department to recuse this unhappy supervisor if he/she has personal involvement.</p>
<p>Many churches and church leadership are trained to handle conflict well.  </p>
<p>The Dominion Christian Centre came under financial scrutiny. They were given the obigatory year to comply to financial issues that were flagged, and could accept advocacy if they chose to. </p>
<p>When an organization is tax-exempt the records are public.<br />
If you&#8217;re unhappy with that societal decision, say so. </p>
<p>The Charity Directorate is absolutely capable of making mistakes, having agendas; it&#8217;s a government department people work for.<br />
Bit niave to believe otherwise.</p>
<p>As a structure it has checks and balances so internal abuse is given address. Depending on the parties involved in dispute or conflict, that address may or may not work out, systems (church/government) are far from perfect.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anyone disagreeing a story is deeper than a blog post.</p>
<p>If Dominion Christian Centre is Christ-called, a tax-exempt revocation is not going to hinder or destroy their work or calling.  Why would you place so much power in a government department and so little in God?</p>
<p>Do you know how many churches receive revocation notices yearly in Canada?</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 19:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I tell you that you are completely missing the Biblical pattern of dealing with these type of things whether they be DCC or Joel Osteen and all you have to say is what does the CD employee that attends another church have to do with it?  He has nothing to do with it other than he like you is another misdirected confessing follower of Christ who is being led by the nose.  You&#039;d rather believe a media and government report which &quot;of course&quot; is &quot;completely unbiased&quot; than you would follow the Biblical pattern set out in Matthew. 

The point is, your self appointed judge and jury arrogance on this entire blog is causing more damage than it is good!  

You are wasting your life on this entire blog! Surely you could take your talents and find something to do in the Body of Christ that will actually make a difference in reaching this world and not give reason for this world to laugh at believers even more.

I would encourage you to go to your local church leaders and ask them if this is the appropriate Biblical way of dealing with these matters.
But of course, you&#039;ve probably never submitted your life in an accountable way to your local Church leaders which is why it&#039;s so easy for you to sit on your computer and demand accountability from everyone else.
It&#039;s funny how it&#039;s always the pot calling the kettle black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I tell you that you are completely missing the Biblical pattern of dealing with these type of things whether they be DCC or Joel Osteen and all you have to say is what does the CD employee that attends another church have to do with it?  He has nothing to do with it other than he like you is another misdirected confessing follower of Christ who is being led by the nose.  You&#8217;d rather believe a media and government report which &#8220;of course&#8221; is &#8220;completely unbiased&#8221; than you would follow the Biblical pattern set out in Matthew. </p>
<p>The point is, your self appointed judge and jury arrogance on this entire blog is causing more damage than it is good!  </p>
<p>You are wasting your life on this entire blog! Surely you could take your talents and find something to do in the Body of Christ that will actually make a difference in reaching this world and not give reason for this world to laugh at believers even more.</p>
<p>I would encourage you to go to your local church leaders and ask them if this is the appropriate Biblical way of dealing with these matters.<br />
But of course, you&#8217;ve probably never submitted your life in an accountable way to your local Church leaders which is why it&#8217;s so easy for you to sit on your computer and demand accountability from everyone else.<br />
It&#8217;s funny how it&#8217;s always the pot calling the kettle black.</p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 07:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy:

Peter Rigo said what he wanted to say just above your comment - he is not being censored.

Okay you&#039;ve lost me. What does Bruxey&#039;s church (?) and a government employee attendee have to do with The Dominion Christian Centre... 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy:</p>
<p>Peter Rigo said what he wanted to say just above your comment &#8211; he is not being censored.</p>
<p>Okay you&#8217;ve lost me. What does Bruxey&#8217;s church (?) and a government employee attendee have to do with The Dominion Christian Centre&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 20:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bene  

It seems that you are misinformed as to what a denomination actually does for a local church body.

It also seems that you, like most others, are willing to accuse another believer (whether they worship the way you do or not or are or are not part of your denomination is irrelevant) of mishandling funds for personal gain.  The reality is that &quot;you don&#039;t know&quot; enough of the details to be making the kind of judgements you are.  

You are ready to believe a corrupt, liberal, humanistic, secular government and media like they have spoken absolute truth -  without going to the source yourself.  The responsibility to get the truth is on your plate before you make any comments. You should not expect them to come and defend themselves on this blog.  And if they don&#039;t you are using that against them like &quot;they must be guilty&quot; because they haven&#039;t played your tune.

I have friends who work in the Charities Directorate and it&#039;s interesting to note that the Supervisor in charge of this particular case is another &quot;christian&quot; who attends Bruxey&#039;s church who is bound to shut them down because &quot;he believes &quot; they are a cult.

Seems like you are ready to quote everything the government says as gospel but not willing to extend &quot;any&quot; benefit of the doubt towards this church.  In your own words you have said that the church is &quot;not a pastoral piggy bank&quot;.
Have you actually gone to DCC and genuinely inquired about the details?  Of course the answer is no.

I&#039;m amazed that you seem to be ready to skewer them like you have in this blog based solely on what the CD and media has reported.  

What exactly are you using as your standard of truth in your judgement of this matter?

If you want, I can go point by point (that is if you use the Bible as your guide) on exactly how we should Biblically handle these types of situations. Just a hint... using social media as our place to vomit our opinions regarding another believer is not it.

I&#039;m not saying DCC is right or wrong but I am saying that the way you have handled this on this blog is not inline with Scripture in any way, shape or form.

You think you are doing society a justice by reporting these half truths that come to us from hearsay and government reports about other believers but you are actually doing more damage in the end.
  
In DCC&#039;s case as in many others there is always more than meets the eye.

Forget about DCC or any other organization - you are the one who is walking on your own dangerous ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bene  </p>
<p>It seems that you are misinformed as to what a denomination actually does for a local church body.</p>
<p>It also seems that you, like most others, are willing to accuse another believer (whether they worship the way you do or not or are or are not part of your denomination is irrelevant) of mishandling funds for personal gain.  The reality is that &#8220;you don&#8217;t know&#8221; enough of the details to be making the kind of judgements you are.  </p>
<p>You are ready to believe a corrupt, liberal, humanistic, secular government and media like they have spoken absolute truth &#8211;  without going to the source yourself.  The responsibility to get the truth is on your plate before you make any comments. You should not expect them to come and defend themselves on this blog.  And if they don&#8217;t you are using that against them like &#8220;they must be guilty&#8221; because they haven&#8217;t played your tune.</p>
<p>I have friends who work in the Charities Directorate and it&#8217;s interesting to note that the Supervisor in charge of this particular case is another &#8220;christian&#8221; who attends Bruxey&#8217;s church who is bound to shut them down because &#8220;he believes &#8221; they are a cult.</p>
<p>Seems like you are ready to quote everything the government says as gospel but not willing to extend &#8220;any&#8221; benefit of the doubt towards this church.  In your own words you have said that the church is &#8220;not a pastoral piggy bank&#8221;.<br />
Have you actually gone to DCC and genuinely inquired about the details?  Of course the answer is no.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m amazed that you seem to be ready to skewer them like you have in this blog based solely on what the CD and media has reported.  </p>
<p>What exactly are you using as your standard of truth in your judgement of this matter?</p>
<p>If you want, I can go point by point (that is if you use the Bible as your guide) on exactly how we should Biblically handle these types of situations. Just a hint&#8230; using social media as our place to vomit our opinions regarding another believer is not it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying DCC is right or wrong but I am saying that the way you have handled this on this blog is not inline with Scripture in any way, shape or form.</p>
<p>You think you are doing society a justice by reporting these half truths that come to us from hearsay and government reports about other believers but you are actually doing more damage in the end.</p>
<p>In DCC&#8217;s case as in many others there is always more than meets the eye.</p>
<p>Forget about DCC or any other organization &#8211; you are the one who is walking on your own dangerous ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 18:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shash:

&quot;Revenue Canada has hired an extra 1,200 - 1,500 auditors for it’s charity division so that over the next 3 years every single charity and church in Canada is put through a full audit. With all I’ve been reading about their new agenda… I hope your church fairs well.&quot;

Don&#039;t you think it&#039;s about time? With 84 thousand registered charities in Canada, and enough regulations to choke a horse, isn&#039;t it about time the Charity Division got it&#039;s act together?
Society is fluid, not static.

Even with grace periods of a year, even with denominational backing, enough money to hire lawyers etc. there are always going to be people taking advantage of loopholes and inattention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shash:</p>
<p>&#8220;Revenue Canada has hired an extra 1,200 &#8211; 1,500 auditors for it’s charity division so that over the next 3 years every single charity and church in Canada is put through a full audit. With all I’ve been reading about their new agenda… I hope your church fairs well.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s about time? With 84 thousand registered charities in Canada, and enough regulations to choke a horse, isn&#8217;t it about time the Charity Division got it&#8217;s act together?<br />
Society is fluid, not static.</p>
<p>Even with grace periods of a year, even with denominational backing, enough money to hire lawyers etc. there are always going to be people taking advantage of loopholes and inattention.</p>
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