Phelps clan barred from Britain

Fred Phelps and his daughter Shirley Phelps-Roper won’t be allowed into the UK to protest a play.

LONDON, Feb. 20 (UPI) — Two U.S. anti-gay preachers have been banned from entering England, officials said. 
Fred Phelps and his daughter Shirley Phelps-Roper, who belong to the Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas, were planning to come to Britain to protest outside a performance of “The Laramie Project,” the Times of London reported Friday.

The plan recounts the death of gay college student Matthew Shepard who was killed in Laramie, Wyo., in 1998. The play is to be performed Saturday at Queen Mary’s College.

Phelps, 79, and his daughter, 51, are known for protesting at American soldiers’ funerals, where they display banners with phrases such as “God Hates Fags.” Members of the church say they believe U.S. troop deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan are punishment for America’s tolerance of gays.

Phelps and his daughter have been labeled as “extremists” by the British government.

Another country heard from – the UK joins Canada and Sweden in not permitting the family on their soil.
A UK gay rights group Outrage doesn’t agree with the Home Secretary, saying although the Phelps were odious, and give Christianity a bad name, they shouldn’t be banned.
Six UK denominations thanked the Home Secretary for the special circumstance decision, including The Evangelical Alliance, Baptist Union, Bible Society’s Theos, The Methodist Church and United Reform Church:

We do not share [Westboro's] hatred of lesbian and gay people. We believe that God loves all, irrespective of sexual orientation, and we unreservedly stand against their message of hate toward those communities.

…Neither the style nor substance of their preaching expresses the historic, orthodox Christian faith. And we ask that the members of Westboro Baptist Church refrain from stirring up any more homophobic hatred in the UK or elsewhere.”

I’m torn on issues about the Phelps rights but I want to be clear.

The Phelps, thier Westboro Church family compound and Phelps Chartered law firm are not a Christian group. 
They are not recognized by any US Baptist organization, denomination or convention, Primitive, Independent Baptists or Calvinists. (which the Phelps claim to be)
The Phelps are a family who make their living pushing free speech boundaries in the US. 
Fred Phelps and his daughter were not going to the UK to preach or worship or practise Christianity.
They were not going to express their opinion.
They were going to the UK to incite and harrass, simply because that is what they exist to do. 
I see no reason why a population has to put up with them acting out.

The only way the Phelps are going to be stopped is when US communities targeted by them  economically bankrupt them, cut off their ability to make a living as a hate group.
Their views on whatever country or whomever they chose to target are widely disseminated, I do not see what the family does for a living as a free speech issue.  
The Phelps sue cities and states who oppose them.
The Phelps exist to push legal and financial boundaries whether it be at funerals of US military,  movies, plays, churches, functions or whatever or whom ever they chose to target.

Speech carries responsibility, public speech carries public responsibility.  
When speech is practised for the purpose of incitement, leadership and the community where the incitement and harassment is targeted have decisions to make. 
Incitement carries public health and security costs. 
Why do Canada, Sweden or UK taxpayers have to pay out for well known, well documented foreign harassers? We have our own, why allow a professional hate group free reign?

 The Phelps are not UK, Canadian or Swedish citizens and while their right to their opinion is one issue, their right to come to our countries to harm others is our issue. 
They are not banned because of their religion, they have not been banned by intolerant minorities; they have been refused entry to other countries because it has been decided it is not in the best interest of the population of those countries to have the a well trained hate group screaming, marching and harassing and willfully inciting. Since when has incitement been protected speech? 

Decisions to prevent entry into a country are made every day, the US denies entry for opinion; how out of touch does a government have to be to know exactly what the Phelps do for a living? 
The Phelps are extremists – very open extremists. 
They have used ideologies, social issues race, ethnicity, orientation, gender and religion as it’s suited their purpose and have railed against the US government, US military, Catholics, Mormons, Amish, Baptists (insert a denomination, religion or sect of choice) natural disasters, accidents and tragedies.  
Whatever puts coin in their pocket and their name in the spotlight. 

Various US states have taken legal steps against the Phelps over the years. 
 Jon Phelps was found guilty of witness intimidation and misdemeanor battery, assault and disorderly conduct. (1993) The family law firm represents themselves and take convictions to appeal. 
Family members have been arrested on various charges such as trespassing, failure to obey a police officer, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, aggravated intimidation of a witness and filing a false report. A civil suit was filed by by Albert Snyder (2006).

The Phelp current God Hates Fags campaign shot to prominence in the late 1990′s with the death of Matthew Shepard. The Laramie Project  is based on Shepard’s brutal murder and the effect on residents of the Wyoming town.

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5 Responses to Phelps clan barred from Britain

  1. Mound of Sound says:

    Now if they could just be banned from any place that has roads and street lights.

  2. England is quite a bigoted country. Matthew Shepard? How many straight children have been molested and murdered by homosexuals like you? A lot. How many Christians have been assaulted by homosexuals like you because you didn’t like the way they voted? A lot. How many Christian churches have been burned down by homosexuals like you because you disagree with the Holy Bible? A lot. Matthew Shepard is in eternal hell fire now and will never get out.
    Whatever you think, you will not be able to change God’s Word and will one day have to pay the price for not believing what God has written.
    Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

    Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    Romans 1:22-27

    V22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, V23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    V24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    V25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, Who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    V26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    V27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I am a sinner and am headed to eternal hell because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away my sins and to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my heart and take away my sins and give me eternal life.

  3. Bene Diction says:

    Donald:

    Attraction to children at puberty is called ephebophila, post puberty (usually adult males toward teen girls up to the age of 17) hebephilia, there is also pederasty and pedophilia (attraction to young pre-puberty children)

    The overwhelming number of adults involved in acts against children are are heterosexual.
    The American Psychiatric Association: “Pedophilia involving female victims is reported more than pedophilia involving male victims.”

    How many homosexuals have burned down churches?

    The US Fire Administration:
    Arson in the United States, half the arsonists were juveniles.
    82 churches were burned or bombed in the US in 2000.
    Many were repeat arsonists, some burnings were racially motivated, some personal, some random. None were identified as ‘homosexually motivated.’

    Matthew Shepard did not molest anyone – he was brutally beaten and killed by Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson who insisted their motive was money and drugs.

    And Donald, how many Christians have been attacked by homosexuals?

    The stats regarding US religious attacks for 2007 are at Human Rights First.

    FBI: 6006
    1,462 “religious bias” incidents, a 19 percent rise from 2005. These incidents constituted 1,597 offenses, and resulted in 1,750 victims—a 25 percent rise over the 1,404 victims in 2005.
    Religious bias data is broken down further into “anti-Christian,” “anti-Jewish,” and “anti-Muslim” categories, with the FBI recording increases in anti-Semitic and anti-Muslim incidents.

    Christians: anti-Catholic bias (76 incidents, 81 offenses, and 86 victims) and anti-Protestant bias (59 incidents, 52 offenses, and 65 victims), together accounting for 8.6 percent of victims.
    Mormons experienced religious bias property damage and assaults, Christians experienced racism, anti-immigrant bias and xenophobia.

    How many homosexuals have been attacked?

    FBI: 2006, hate crimes against gays increased to 16%, from 14%, and is the third most common hate crime in the US surpassed only by racial and religious hate attacks.

    FBI: 2006 reported and recorded hate crimes against GLBT: 1,195

    How many Christians have been assaulted or killed by homosexuals?

    I didn’t find any.

    How many Christians have been victims of attacks and assaults by GLBT?

    I found property damage toward Mormon temples after Prop 8, property damage to churches, disruption of a service, yelling at JHOP members who were escorted out of the area by riot police.
    There was also property damage toward gay affirming churches.

    Genesis 9:6, Joshua 20:3, Mark 10:19, Romans 12:17-21, 1 Peter 3:9, Matthew 7:5

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  5. Mike says:

    Apparently “Rev” Spitz has not read Matthew 25. Bah, that just what that Jesus guy said, that doesn’t mean anything.

    Such hate. Pitiful.

    Jesus wept.

    (And yes an atheist like me can still appreciate words of love and compassion and the charge to act that way to others no matter their circumstance. Apparently more than a so-called “Christian” like Spitz. How ironic is that?)

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