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	<title>Comments on: Whereas&#8230;the FBC Jax Watchdog blog</title>
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		<title>By: FBC Jax Watchblog gaining media attention at Bene Diction Blogs On</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/03/24/whereasthe-fbc-jax-watchdog-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-110309</link>
		<dc:creator>FBC Jax Watchblog gaining media attention at Bene Diction Blogs On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 09:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Whereas&#8230;The FBC Jax Watchblog FCB Jax Watchblog update Whereas, First Baptist Church Jacksonville and law enforcement  Published 0 minutes ago      // Used for showing and hiding user information in the comment form function ShowUtils() { document.getElementById(&quot;authorinfo&quot;).style.display = &quot;&quot;; document.getElementById(&quot;showinfo&quot;).style.display = &quot;none&quot;; document.getElementById(&quot;hideinfo&quot;).style.display = &quot;&quot;; } function HideUtils() { document.getElementById(&quot;authorinfo&quot;).style.display = &quot;none&quot;; document.getElementById(&quot;showinfo&quot;).style.display = &quot;&quot;; document.getElementById(&quot;hideinfo&quot;).style.display = &quot;none&quot;; } [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Whereas, First Baptist Church Jacksonville and law enforcement at Bene Diction Blogs On</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whereas, First Baptist Church Jacksonville and law enforcement at Bene Diction Blogs On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few weeks ago I posted about a watchblogger who has been rebuffed and abused by church leadership at the SBC church in Jacksonville Florida.  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SBC Jax Watchblog update at Bene Diction Blogs On</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/03/24/whereasthe-fbc-jax-watchdog-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-110104</link>
		<dc:creator>SBC Jax Watchblog update at Bene Diction Blogs On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogs about this blog, these events or the church, they are in trouble with leadership after their &#8216;whereas&#8217; declaration and if these men are not stopped, could expect the same crushing treatment. They [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blogs about this blog, these events or the church, they are in trouble with leadership after their &#8216;whereas&#8217; declaration and if these men are not stopped, could expect the same crushing treatment. They [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bene Diction</title>
		<link>http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/03/24/whereasthe-fbc-jax-watchdog-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-110093</link>
		<dc:creator>Bene Diction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like what Miguel de la Torres says in a recent rebuttle article to his critics:

&quot;The good news is that Jesus is not afraid of our honest inquiry. He is also patient when we get it wrong (and we all do). The real question here today is if you are willing to be the sister or brother in Christ of a heretic dog like me?&quot;

In the months I&#039;ve followed the watchdog blog I&#039;ve never seen the guy respond badly to even the most vocal of his critics, even when it&#039;s apparent his own emotions are running high.

It&#039;s classic whistleblower or as you say &#039;circle the wagons&#039; behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what Miguel de la Torres says in a recent rebuttle article to his critics:</p>
<p>&#8220;The good news is that Jesus is not afraid of our honest inquiry. He is also patient when we get it wrong (and we all do). The real question here today is if you are willing to be the sister or brother in Christ of a heretic dog like me?&#8221;</p>
<p>In the months I&#8217;ve followed the watchdog blog I&#8217;ve never seen the guy respond badly to even the most vocal of his critics, even when it&#8217;s apparent his own emotions are running high.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s classic whistleblower or as you say &#8216;circle the wagons&#8217; behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Byron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Byron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting that the Hartford Institute&#039;s megachurch database has First Baptist down as having only 6500 members, when they have a membership roll of four times that. That&#039;s a pretty dead ratio of members to attenders, pointing to the possibility of a church with a lot of people who want the prestige of belonging to a big downtown church without actually going on most Sundays.

It&#039;s well connected within the SBC, as Jerry Vines was the former pastor; he was one of the leaders in the conservative wars. I&#039;m not sure if that has anything to do with the issue at hand, other than that the fat-cats in the SBC don&#039;t like being questioned and these folks seem fatter than most.

Add to that a circle-the-wagons mentality when someone gets feisty about a contentious issue, and things can get out of hand in a hurry. Institutions are made of fallen men, and when fallen men get lots of money and power, it can affect their judgment. That&#039;s one reason why megachurches can get into trouble, that large dose of power can be corrupting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that the Hartford Institute&#8217;s megachurch database has First Baptist down as having only 6500 members, when they have a membership roll of four times that. That&#8217;s a pretty dead ratio of members to attenders, pointing to the possibility of a church with a lot of people who want the prestige of belonging to a big downtown church without actually going on most Sundays.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s well connected within the SBC, as Jerry Vines was the former pastor; he was one of the leaders in the conservative wars. I&#8217;m not sure if that has anything to do with the issue at hand, other than that the fat-cats in the SBC don&#8217;t like being questioned and these folks seem fatter than most.</p>
<p>Add to that a circle-the-wagons mentality when someone gets feisty about a contentious issue, and things can get out of hand in a hurry. Institutions are made of fallen men, and when fallen men get lots of money and power, it can affect their judgment. That&#8217;s one reason why megachurches can get into trouble, that large dose of power can be corrupting.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmen A. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carmen A. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello...
My first time reading anything on your blog. I really like this. Very interesting.

I am sorry.... I did not capture your name... if you do not mind. 

Great blog.
Carmen A. Smith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello&#8230;<br />
My first time reading anything on your blog. I really like this. Very interesting.</p>
<p>I am sorry&#8230;. I did not capture your name&#8230; if you do not mind. </p>
<p>Great blog.<br />
Carmen A. Smith</p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankie, I&#039;m sorry it&#039;s happened to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankie, I&#8217;m sorry it&#8217;s happened to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Brother Frankie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brother Frankie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its happened to me. from law enforcement to lil league.. dont you question Gods anointed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its happened to me. from law enforcement to lil league.. dont you question Gods anointed&#8230;</p>
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