This week after 6 years David Mainse is back on the set of the TV show he founded.
He has mentioned partners (donors) twice I’ve caught in the three days he has taken the show while hosts take a break. There have been rumours that in the 6 years he left the show he founded, giving dropped by at least 10%. That may be a conservative figure, but it’s what I have heard. With the economic downturn and the end of the fiscal TV year coming up August 31st he mentioned on air during the show, that financially the ministry was considerably behind, and encouraged his fans to give. He doesn’t appear to want to be back.
While many local churches are reporting local congregational giving is steady or up during these tough times, some aid agencies have closed, para-church organizations are feeling the financial crunch, publishing in pinched as publicans fold, educational institutions cut way back and televangelists beg for more to stay on air..
David Mainse is the founder of Crossroads Christian Communications, if he wants to say something he says it. He is a visionary who is watching his legacy struggle. In 1979 years prior to building he calls the second largest TV studio in Canada he wrote a book; 100 Huntley Street: The Exciting Success Story from the Host of Canada’s Popular Television Program. The show had been running for 3 years, and had yet to run at it’s Toronto location a year later. It would be 16 years before Crossroads Christian Communications move into it’s present castle in Burlington.
On Tuesday Monday (July 13) during a preamble involving newspaper headlines he veered off to talk about the article in The Hamilton Spectator July 2nd He told viewers that by now they knew Davids sons, Ron who had been made president when David retired and Reynold a VP had been named in The Spec article and that no ministry funds had been used. The Spectator, the local paper, has been very fair to the ministry over the years.
He said gossip was a terrible sin. The implication was the naming of his sons as point men in the Driver/Axcess pre-trial hearing in the US was gossip, therefore terrible, rating up there with other ‘bad sins’ such as murder. Yes, gossip is a terrible sin, but far too often criticism and skepticism and reporting of recorded statements is labelled as gossip. Either Gordon Driver has lied or he hasn’t. Crossroads chose to not make a decision about hosts for over a month even though they were aware of Driver/Rutledge and the OSC. Lies are by comission or omission.
Who was Rev. Mainse addressing in his pique at newspaper? The Hamilton Spectator which was reporting what had been said under oath, or Gordon Driver who said it under oath? People lie under oath all the time, but it seemed a callous dismissal of media for reporting facts.
Whatever occurred in the second wave of Driver/Axcess Automation/Funds which targeted 100 Huntley was serious enough for the board to ask David Mainse sons to step aside.
David was irritated the University of Toronto Madoff investment losses were not given media attention like his sons were. Well, the U of T doesn’t run a ministry which prides itself on positivity and righteousness, discernment and wisdom. While the U of T board has a responsibility to work with Madoff trustees and Bay Street to make wise investments, they lay no claim to being led by God. None of us can say with certainty we can’t be scammed and face the fallout.
The May 16th partner letter was brief. They were thanked for their help and encouragement, and told that
suffering made one stronger, wiser and better teachers. I didn’t hear that they were not Driver/Axcess point men. We don’t hear about the family ties between Rutledges, Melnichuks, Staceys and other related by marriage to the founders family. Mainse wrote followers that his sons kept a right spirit when the board removed them and were truly Godly men. Spoken like a father who has been devastated to see his legacy tarnished and possible harmed in ways that have not yet come to light. He also said Ron and Ann had been relaxing, and Reynold and Kathy were off ministering.
There are rumours and speculation their home is for sale or has been sold as they brace for possible backlash from the second group of Driver investors. The first wave (pre David Rutledge and possible other point people at 100 Huntley) number about 60, give or take a few. No one has stepped forward with an exact number. The second wave – the Crossroads wave – lost an unknown amount, but if you think about it, it’s possible it was a substantial part of the 14.1m named in the US courts by investigators.
I do believe Ron and Reynold were victims and I believe they as second wave investors may have done been victimizers. I’ve heard from one angry investor. There have been a few friends of investors who are angry for their friends losses. I can appreciate Crossroads Christian Communications has to look at the final results of an audit, possible questions by Rev Can, and agencies such as the PAOC and Canadian Christian Charities. That scrutiny is wise and necessary. No one knows what the OSC is doing or plans to do, and second wave investors only hope of justice seems to lie in suing the ministry which employed David Rutledge who went to work for Driver, and if the Mainse Brothers were point men, bringing that into any potential lawsuits. That the Mainse and their extended family have been deeply wounded is a given, but again ignorance is not a legal excuse.
Is September when management is planning on bringing the Mainse brothers back to the show? Gordon Driver has a hearing the first week of August in the US district court and while I believe Crossroads Christian Communications is looking ahead to being sued by the second wave of investors, and it’s possible Driver, in saving his own skin may be falsely accusing – it is not gossip to report what has been said in a hearing.
To say The Spectator or other news outlets are gossiping is deflecting and dodging potential responsibility.
That is the Crossroads boards problem. To compare lack of coverage of U of T Madoff losses to Crossroads coverage doesn’t hold up.
This was life TV and while lawyers or management may not have wanted this addressed, it has been, albeit briefly.
Media coverage is not even mediocre, there is a profound lack of interest, not only by news outlets but by the public. Donors are going to believe whatever David Mainse says, for his consummate showmanship aside, he speaks as a father which is what alleged ponzi scheme perpetrator Gordon Driver also sees him as – a surrogate.
It remains to be seen where the truth lies.
I am disheartened to hear that David Mainse threw out the “gossip” card. I thought that all of the news media, and blog media had been quite generous towards his sons. The only issue I saw being raised was the lack of communication from CTS and 100 Huntley Street themselves. Ron and Renoyld had no say in that. They had already been let go.
There were many volunteer and financial supporters that turned to blogs and other social media outlets to find information about what was going on with CTS. I think many people had valid questions. I really respect the Mainse family, but just wish so deeply, they could have been 100% transparent from the start. Totally open, totally honest, and totally vulnerable.
What a statement that could have made to the Canadian Christians, and to non-believers. What a monumental moment in time it could have been. Where deeply respected Evangelicals could have come clean about what was going on. Even if it was just to say that they had been duped, it could have been a really beautiful moment. Headlines could have been different. Blogs could have praised their transparency. And this situation could have been put to rest, long ago.
Considering the hypocrisy of Ron and Reynolds Mainse in pretending to be men of God, begging for widows and elderly to give their last penny, while they live in a million dollar home in an exclusive neighborhood, I am not surprised at David Mainse being a hypocrite and using any method to silent their critics.
Thieving lying uneducated scoundrel Jim Bakker who publicly repented of nothing save teaching prosperity doctrines even though his crimes and sins were public made no restitution whatsoever to anybody including the government. And that is biblically wrong as a Christian and against any sound laws based on Judeo/Christianity teachings!
Unlike other liars and deceivers on television including Benny Hinn, Mainse brothers Ron and Reynolds were university educated even with a Business degree, so they have no excuse for being sucked into a ponzi scheme and earning a 5% finders fee in the process which makes them liable for any damage they caused to others!
As so called Evangelical Pentecostal Christians, the Mainse Brothers and David Ruthelidge are not only morally guilty for being selfish, greedy and hypocritical in not trusting for God to provide but they now have a moral responsibility to help the so called investors to recover their losses including resigning from the ministry, getting real jobs in the business world, selling their million dollars homes and doing whatever to correct the real damage they had done to those who trusted them!
They can use all the fancy words they want to justify anything that they want but actions speak louder than hypocritical words and faith without works is dead!
And they are also enemies now of honest folks who didn’t do what they did! For as Roy Aldrich wrote to his Pastor Karl Strader of Carpenter’s Home Church after he was robbed of $100,000 and died prematurely as a result:
1) I am the enemy of lying and deception which hurts and robs people.
I am the enemy of the policies of secret salaries which conceal huge benefits flowing from trusting church members to their leaders- salaries which provide sumptuous life styles, while at the same time, these same leaders are firing and traumatizing the “little people†under their care like Cindy Deaton, Patricia Aldrich, Jack and Betty Collins.
2) I am the enemy of those who practice cruelty in the administration of any corporation, especially churches.
3) I am the enemy of any minister who allows the use of his pulpit for personal vendettas.
4) I am the enemy of any minister who uses his pulpit for soliciting public and personal sympathy over controversial matters involving his family.
5) I am the enemy of every minister in the world whose sense of right and wrong is based on nepotism and favoritism.
6) I am the enemy of the policy of Karl Strader who raised $52,000.00 for Dan’s defense fund and $58,000.00 for repairing a roof and not one dime for his son’s elderly and devastated victims.
7) I am the enemy of the disrespect represented in the Strader attitude towards the State Attorney and Judge Robert Doyel, a true servant of God.
9) I am the enemy of huge personal gain to Karl Strader and Joe Perez derived from their secret management fees from the CHC Life Center Retirement Estates.
10) I am the enemy of the thinking that some claimed “anointing†or supposed special privilege with God gives anyone the right to turn a Christian church into their own personal “cash-cow.â€
11) I am the enemy of the thinking expressed in the attached sermon outline which implies that the welfare of CHC is determined by any one man or family. We are supposed to worship Christ, and not the Straders.
12) I am the enemy of any minister who uses his oratorical ability to rally church audiences into cheerleading and other emotional excess as a device to shore up a crumbling personal empire.
13) I am an enemy of any organization that suggests opposing the leader’s lifestyle and words is opposing God.
Roy Aldrich January 1996 Not Innocentâ€
Walter:
You keep saying million dollar home.
Would you provide the real estate records for the area please?
It’s either true or it’s not, actual figures would be appreciated.
E:
The gossip card was played on the Monday July 13th show.
Starts at 3:55
I was also very disappointed.
As a father I’d expect him to be hurt, angry, to defend his sons, (which he does in his donor newsletter) but not go off on TV at the expense of truth and of others doing their jobs.
Canadian media has been extremely generous, and to slam the messengers (US prosecutors, transcripts and the local paper reporting) does Crossroads Christian Communications no favours.
It was a cheap and petty public shot and a sorry misuse of scripture.
He did it at the beginning of the show when he was going through newpaper headlines and veered off.
You are so correct, he board had already made their move, they knew in April, knew a lot more by and Crossroads Communcations chose to remain quiet until June.
There have been several opportuntities Crossroads has chosen not to take.
Well said.
If you live in Burlington drive up Brant St till it becomes Cedar Spring Road which goes to Kilbride! When you come to the stop sign Kilbride Street then ask anybody for Chelsea road and drive up and down on it. And you will see that very few Canadians can afford to buy any of the exclusive homes on Chelsea road!
Or use Google map “kilbride ontario” zoom in on Chelsea road and then go to Satellite view and it’s the 4 or 5 home on the east side south of side road 8.
You can play with the zoom button and examine all the homes on that street. I will take any one of them if you will give it to me!
http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&q=kilbride ontario map&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=ca&ei=ybpfSt34EMG_tgel2qXgAw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1
Is it a coincidence that the Bruce Stacey business is called
Chelsea Road Productions, or is the company named after
the address of one or more of its principals?
Chelsea Road productions is involved with the God Rocks
television series and other audio/visual media for young
people.
CROSSROADS CHRISTIAN COMMUNICATIONS
Crossroads is Canada’s leading, faith based para-church ministry with broadcasts reaching from coast to coast across Canada and many countries around the world.
IS CHELSEA ROAD PRODUCTIONS WHERE THE MAINSE BROTHERS MADE ALL THEIR MONEY BECAUSE AFTER ALL CROSSROADS BELONGED TO THEM AND THEY DID WHAT EVER THEY WANTED WITH IT AND BENEFITED FINANCIALLY AS A RESULT? AFTER ALL THEY CONTROLLED THE CONTRACTS AND CONTACTS!
Knowing the attitude and deception of many pastors who believe because they are doing God’s work they are better than the sheep and God will defend them I am not surprised at David’s Mainse’s elitism as displayed on Monday July 13, 2009.
But David was so hurt that he had to take a cheap shot at the news media.
I have seen this approach over and over again with Pastor Karl Strader and the corrupt Pastor Dr. Henry J. Lyons who said the news media was of the devil!
But God uses everything including the devil to bring down his enemies and those who rob, rape and use the sheep are not His friends but his enemies!
This ivory tower approach that because I am a man of God and above reproach and cannot be question by anyone is so archaic and colonial that David Mainse is guaranteed for a lot more pain and heartache before this scandal is over! We haven’t even gone into the criminal trial yet for the Mainse brother’s alleged crimes!
Crossroads just doesn’t seem to be able to handle this well at all. The key to overcoming bad PR like this is to speak clearly, with one voice, and for everyone to hear. Not burying statements in their websites or making vague accusations or statements on air that can be taken any number of ways.
PROV 16:18 Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before a fall.
Watching the Monday July 13, 2009 video it’s clear to see the arrogance of David Mainse who thinks he is a super man of God and challenging the news media reporting of the alleged Ponzi crimes as gossip.
Stonewalling and doing nothing of value, which is a typical approach of deceived pastors and ministries, doesn’t work well at all because the majority of people are not stupid or naive and they don’t buy the idea “touch not my anointed ones” who don’t have any integrity anyway!
The Mainses are finished and just don’t know it just like Saul who fought on for a while but was for all purposes history! But some people even though they are pastors never learn and just repeat the mistakes of others!
To speak with one voice…
I agree, that is a logical outgrowth of good governance, a healthy working environment and shared commitment.
It is hard to watch this unfold, it’s especially difficult to read emails from the first and second wave of investors.
It is difficult to read emails from former employees.
People are confused, broken and there is a fear I do not understand.
I’m sure I’m not the only one getting information behind the scenes.
There is a time to be silent and a time to speak.
I agree with you that healthy organizations speak clearly during crisis.
David’s veer off gives an indication of the corporate mindset that is trickling in at BDBO from different people.
I’ve hestitated to put information on the Crossroads board up in case I have the wrong people. A former bank executive, now in the oil industry, a tax lawyer, a car dealership VP in the long running family business, a pentecostal evangelist church planting in Ottawa.
Rich in business experience, and you’d think combined with media people they’d understand the need to break through a newsletter bubble and be transparent and open.
I’m seeing people so performance based, the larger picture is lost to them.
Crossroads CEO Doug McKenzie admited in the Maranatha interview they were alerted in April by the OSC news release.
It’s one thing to position a public organization for the future financially, to fufil obligations to the CRTC and Rev Can Charities. That would be appropriate stewardship.
It’s quite another to be forthright o and open with those you serve. That is also appropriate stewardship and it is missing.
If donor and public trust is lost, what future is there?
This all makes me wonder at what point did the church in Canada (and the U.S.) become such a slick and clever business enterprise, run by slick and clever business people in a slick and clever business-like way…where and why did we go off the rails? I can think of two reasons at least: 1) laying aside the cross , whereby we must crucify our flesh nature or we are not His disciples 2) Too much Martha and not enough Mary: Jesus said that Mary choosing to forgo fleshly activity on His behalf, to just sit at His feet and allow herself to be transformed by Him was the ONE THING NEEDED. Do we believe Him? Are we going to follow Jesus and become like Him, or will we continue to follow the world and become like it?
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Honestly, in this age of deception, I don’t know why anyone would give money to this company.
Along with his sons, David Mainse is a professional fake. Misleading the public for years.
While this family lives in the multimillion dollars homes with money donated, people continue to be stupid to give money.
Eventually, their scheme will break.
If the Mainse family truly followed God’s word, they would not be involved in such a scandal.
The new phrase–at least to me–is faith promise.
That’s the phrase David Mainse used today
to start fundraising for the fiscal year-end.
They’re wanting $500,000 and they need it
before month’s end.
Instead of “best ministry gift”, David used
“faith promise”. Is that a loaded phrase meant
to imply guilt and shame if you can’t contribute?
All that came after a 12-minute nearly non-stop
relentless pitch from David.
I was surprised to see Ann back on the air and
wonder if that heralds future changes.
Torontonian:
Interesting change in words, I take it they haven’t been used in fund drives before?
Sounds prosperity gospel; guilt, performance based…
Just a step away from guilting and shaming people who invested in the alleged ponzi scheme, emotional manipulation, sweep those harmed under the nearest doorstoop.
We know Crossroads paints it’s employees as victims, not victim/victimizers, guilting donors re-inforces the organizational decisions. We still don’t know how many became Axcess investors as a direct result of contact with Crossroads, Mainses, and Rutledges.
I’ve had figures from 30 to 60 investors in the first wave (pre- Crossroads) and no way to confirm or verify numbers.
Also, since you follow this carefully – is it common for 100 Huntley to set an end month goal of that amount?
I think Crossroads planned to go back to business as usual as soon as possible, the change was the re-act to the crisis.
In this summers website re-do the Mainse couples pics weren’t removed front and centre as hosts.
We don’t know if the Mainse were paid while off-air, we’ll never know, Ann Mainse returning to hosting on-air doesn’t seem a stretch. There are still regulatory bodies to weigh in.
Why is she wearing a long black jacket which looks like a mens suit jacket?
That’s like Jim Cantelon’s black outfit, black background drama queen board statement in June.
David Mainse doing the fund raiser makes sense. As founder, donors are more likely to respond to him. He can say media is gossiping, the moon is made of playdough, and some people would empty their wallets.
Guests hosts begging for money doesn’t have the same clout.
Sad.
I believe that every year, they’ve announced the
amount of their goal right from the outset.
So, the announcement today was nothing new.
As for David–I don’t think his chattering on is
doing anyone a benefit. He tends to exaggerate
and twist events/facts to fit his agenda.
Some of his stories are are quite unbelievable
and his chattering on only can make things worse.
The phrase “faith promise” carries the burden
of anticipated expectation and falls into the
realm of value-laden terminology that are in
the league of the conservatives’ “talking points”.
It falls into the same group as “hard working
taxpapyers”, “soft on crime”, “right to life”.
Each term has its own weight on the moral
conscience of most listeners. Faith promise
is a new one and is probably from somewhere
else. I can’t quite imagine David Mainse coming
up with that.
Another interesting sidelight: The opening video
of the program no longer features any persons.
Rather, it is recast with the guest first and then
opening graphics then cut to the studio.
If there are no personalities in the opening segment,
does that suggest there are changes afoot or
does it simply mean a re-think of the opening
footage?
There will be–I’m sure–major changes coming
in the next few weeks.
I just watched it.
Never heard of Terry Law, he’s in Oklahoma, looked up his organization on Charity Navigator.
Has to be tough, the Driver case, Kenneth Copeland grabbing a lot of attention and money in charimatic circles with his latest begging in Texas.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/16/us/16gospel.html
20% down is not as bad as most ministries if that’s true.
Crossroads isn’t hurting given its assets.
Jim Cantelon spinning due diligence and transparency was a bit much, but I doubt donors care. Will the public see transparency?
It’s painful to watch, but I don’t doubt a couple of weeks of this, Crossroads will get what they want.
You may be correct, there may be changes, I see an organization in a rut. Time will tell.
Yeah, David and his million hits, his name dropping, they have to let him ramble, not much else to offer.
Nothing wrong with trips down memory lane, but it does not address what has happened and how Crossroads has been handling it.
It is all about him or he wouldn’t be there.
If they chose to respond openly, would he need to be there?
He was charimatic, visionary a natural televangelist in a certain time and place and was loved. That season has ended.
The internet teachings being available is standard fare for CBN etc., not really new for Crossroads either.
They have nothing unique to offer online except their vaults.
Maybe it’s just me thinking about investors but I come away with a impression of quiet desperation and forced cheerfulness. A disquieting disconnect.
When public trust has been broken and the organization doesn’t address that break, the only people left to fall back on are faithful old timers.
Thanks for pointing the opener is new, I’m not wrapping my head around the sense I’m watching an organization out of synch and out of step.
Faith Promise involves pledging a certain amount of money over a certain period of time, eg, $30/month over one year, or just a lump sum by a certain date – even if the donor doesn’t know where the money will come from yet. It’s a Promise to donate based on Faith in God to provide the funds. They started doing this at TACF around 1999-2000 I think it was – hand out the Faith Promise forms, talk you up, then ‘walk’ you through filling out the Faith Promise forms. It struck me at the time as being very manipulative, and that’s an understatement. Not sure how Huntley St.’s version of it compares in an ‘on air’ format, since I haven’t seen it yet.
Thanks Therese
That’s clear.
God’s blessing on an installment plan.
What you experienced is manipulative and thanks for giving us some background on the meaning.
I floated this past a friend tonight.
David Mainse may be given his free association air time because Crossroads has reason to be concerned.
Not about money, (given their assets the organization could carry on just fine without their 20%); but about the on-going court case in the US and the possible Canadian fallout.
I knew so and so, know so and so, and I know so and so rambling – a veiled threat.
Back off.
We have friends in high places.
To most of us, we see a retired minister who had an interesting life wandering down memory lane raising money.
But given what looks like most of us to manipulation and add in the proverberial elephant in the studio, are we looking at fear? Velvet fist in the iron glove politics?
It sounds like the same tone he used back when he warned viewers not to gossip or speculate about the situation, like an inaudible growl behind the words. Just a thought but could it be a worried parent’s instinct to protect his kids? This whole situation must be particularly difficult for someone who is not so young and who has been off television for a number of years…I just caught a few minutes of the beginning of the show since my comment above, and it was agonizing to watch – I wish they would somehow just see the light and end this misery for all our sakes. Just rambling out loud, I’m tired, good night!
Papa bear.
Possible.
Anything is possible.
Reynold admitted drawing in family; but protective family growling does not play well on TV for adult children in positions of responsibility.
Who did Ron draw in?
David Rutledge?
These were former Pentecostal dynastic families now under possible regulatory or legal threat we know nothing about.
I remain haunted by 100 people who have learned hard lessons about trust. If it’s painful for us to watch…
Sleep well.
Had a l o n g day at the beach yesterday, just myself and 4 energetic teenagers, my daughter and 3 of her friends, it wiped me out. This old greying mare ain’t what she used to be, well, thank God for that anyhow! I was thinking that some of David Mainse’s ramblings might have been the ramblings of a tired old man whose thinking was a little less than sharp…I really could empathize with that last night…even still a little this morning…and I am sorry for what they are going through, but I do wish they would learn from it something a little deeper than how to not get sucked into fraudulent investing. I think how we respond to the Lord’s discipline shows what we are really made of – His sons or sons of the world.
Walter you’re right, those people are not responding to you the way true believers would – the word of God is very clear about not taking our brethren to a secular court to be judged by lost sinners, but then who reads or takes the bible to heart any more? Just like ‘mainstream’ denominationalized Christianity, they cherry-pick the verses they like and toss out the rest, instead of seeking the Lord for understanding of the parts they don’t understand. Even new agers handle the bible this way.
Not a verbatim transcript of David Mainse’s statement today
at 50 minutes into the telecast:
———
Apparently, God has allowed, through the board of directors, for
Ron to step aside for reflection.
He’s been in fasting and prayer and improving his French.
Ron is waiting on the Lord. The board of directors are waiting
on God. God only knows the timing of all these things.
“Keep the Ministry strong”: Ron
———
The program was more talk about the entire endeavour rather
than the Message to the believer and newcomer.
Money mattered more. Cantelon ran the same tape of those
financiers for about the 4th time today. I’m getting tired
of those two finance and money market people coming back
up in the same taped segments.
There is an air of desperation and impending doom and
it’s visible on their faces.
Another telling sign: In previous
fundraisers, one would see a large bank of volunteers ready
to answer telephones. Now we’re seeing just a group of
four or maybe six persons. It could be that there are others
off-screen and it could well be that the nature of giving has
changed more to the electronic form than the call-in form.
Gone is the screen filling-shot of volunteers.
Walter: The topic of your comment has nothing to do with the subject. Please stick to topic. Thankyou – BD
Therese
I don’t want to say that I or my pastor Gordon Williams are perfect but check out the web for Gordon Williams Ministry and find the locations of his many house churches near you.
He does things in his meetings that you are complaining about not seeing – I’ve never in my life seen a church where this simple biblical instruction is carried out.
Thanks Walter, I’ll check this out!
I watched this even a bit of 100 Huntley street with David Mainse and some guests said “The Lord told me this”, “The Lord directed me”, etc.
Well if all what they say is true and it’s not the devil who is speaking to them, how come “the Lord” didn’t tell the David or his sons that they were getting involved in a fraudulent affinity Ponzi fraud which would cause serious financial losses and hurts to others?
God is interested in the whole man and their hurts and losses and not just a Christian TV talk show?
Something is not right here!
I always wonder what spirit is really directing the people who constantly have to refer to “the Lord” as their proof of doing something! It doesn’t seem at all like the Holy Spirit!
But then these TV Evangelists are God’s best friends and He speaks to them and they know everything and are never wrong?
I’m sure the Lord must have tried to warn them somehow of the wrong direction they were heading in before all this came to the surface, He is faithful to warn before sending judgment, but they didn’t ‘hear’ his warnings….it’s very sad how people often are only able to hear the things they want to hear. I think it shows how little some know their God – they don’t believe that He would ever say something “negative” to correct his children.
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I watch 100 Huntley and for a donation they will send you a book titled The Boy Who Came Back From Heaven. It is the story of of a father and 6 year old son who were in an auto accident and in 2004 and the son was in a coma for two months, and when he came out of the coma he said that he was with Jesus in Heaven, and here it is 2011 seven year latter he is 13 still confined to a wheel chair. Now if he was in Heaven with Jesus do you not think that Jesus would have healed him 100%. In the title it say it is a true story. Do you not have to prove something is true before you put it in a book and sell it. It is as true as the Three little Bears.
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