Comments on: Rifqa Bary, cause celeb for US right wing groups http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/09/25/rifqa-bary-cause-celeb-for-us-right-wing-groups/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:23:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rifqa Bary back in the news at Bene Diction Blogs On http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/09/25/rifqa-bary-cause-celeb-for-us-right-wing-groups/comment-page-1/#comment-118670 Rifqa Bary back in the news at Bene Diction Blogs On Thu, 27 May 2010 08:56:08 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6289#comment-118670 [...] courts sent Rifqa Bary back to Ohio in October where she remains in foster [...] [...] courts sent Rifqa Bary back to Ohio in October where she remains in foster [...]

]]> By: Bene D http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/09/25/rifqa-bary-cause-celeb-for-us-right-wing-groups/comment-page-1/#comment-111744 Bene D Thu, 01 Oct 2009 04:18:44 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6289#comment-111744 I see the Florida Department of Children & Family Services want to know how Ms. Bary wound up on that conference call. I see the Florida Department of Children & Family Services want to know how Ms. Bary wound up on that conference call.

]]> By: Craig McCarthy http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/09/25/rifqa-bary-cause-celeb-for-us-right-wing-groups/comment-page-1/#comment-111740 Craig McCarthy Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:34:58 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6289#comment-111740 You are closer to the mark than you know. I say that with regret, as it is not a good thing for Christianity to be represented in this matter by people who are not, to put it kindly, orthodox. You are closer to the mark than you know. I say that with regret, as it is not a good thing for Christianity to be represented in this matter by people who are not, to put it kindly, orthodox.

]]> By: Mark Byron http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/09/25/rifqa-bary-cause-celeb-for-us-right-wing-groups/comment-page-1/#comment-111682 Mark Byron Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:50:23 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6289#comment-111682 <blockquote>The bible tells parents what to do with rebellious kids too. And how many US Christians stoned thier kids recently? Dueteromony 21: 18-22.</blockquote>Zero, to the best of my memory. However, that red herring begs the question- How many US Muslims stoned (or otherwise dispatched) their kids recently over non-Muslim praxis? More than one. Having the wrong boyfriend can be lethal in some quarters. It's a tough call. Rebellious teen who claims potential persecution versus parental rights. If we go with the teen, we're seeming to fall prey to stereotyping, but stereotypes often have legitimate roots to them. Your suggestion of putting her in foster care until her next birthday seems to split the difference nicely.

The bible tells parents what to do with rebellious kids too.
And how many US Christians stoned thier kids recently?
Dueteromony 21: 18-22.

Zero, to the best of my memory.

However, that red herring begs the question- How many US Muslims stoned (or otherwise dispatched) their kids recently over non-Muslim praxis? More than one. Having the wrong boyfriend can be lethal in some quarters.

It’s a tough call. Rebellious teen who claims potential persecution versus parental rights. If we go with the teen, we’re seeming to fall prey to stereotyping, but stereotypes often have legitimate roots to them.

Your suggestion of putting her in foster care until her next birthday seems to split the difference nicely.

]]> By: Bene D http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/09/25/rifqa-bary-cause-celeb-for-us-right-wing-groups/comment-page-1/#comment-111676 Bene D Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:50:57 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6289#comment-111676 Okay. So an occasional Muslim follows these teachings. There has been no evidence from Florida or Ohio investigators that is the case with this family. Send her back to Ohio, let her remain a ward of the state if that's what she wants until she is 18. The bible tells parents what to do with rebellious kids too. And how many US Christians stoned thier kids recently? Dueteromony 21: 18-22. Okay.

So an occasional Muslim follows these teachings.
There has been no evidence from Florida or Ohio investigators that is the case with this family.

Send her back to Ohio, let her remain a ward of the state if that’s what she wants until she is 18.

The bible tells parents what to do with rebellious kids too.
And how many US Christians stoned thier kids recently?
Dueteromony 21: 18-22.

]]> By: Wout http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/09/25/rifqa-bary-cause-celeb-for-us-right-wing-groups/comment-page-1/#comment-111674 Wout Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:08:21 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6289#comment-111674 As a "leftish" Canadian Christian, it is still important to remember what islam teaches. Whether her parents would kill her or not, that is her fear, and is in fact based on the hadith that indicates that apostates must be killed. Whether her parents are strict adherents to islam or not, some of the true believers in her parent’s mosque may very well be and follow through on mohammed’s command. The hadith (sayings of mohammed) do indicate death for apostasy. Here are but three. Bukhari (52:260) – “…The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ” Bukhari (84:57) – “[In the words of] Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’” Bukhari (84:64-65) – “Allah’s Apostle: ‘During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.’” Muslims who take their religion seriously and literally can and often do follow these teachings. As a “leftish” Canadian Christian, it is still important to remember what islam teaches. Whether her parents would kill her or not, that is her fear, and is in fact based on the hadith that indicates that apostates must be killed.

Whether her parents are strict adherents to islam or not, some of the true believers in her parent’s mosque may very well be and follow through on mohammed’s command.

The hadith (sayings of mohammed) do indicate death for apostasy. Here are but three.

Bukhari (52:260) – “…The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ”

Bukhari (84:57) – “[In the words of] Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”

Bukhari (84:64-65) – “Allah’s Apostle: ‘During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.’”

Muslims who take their religion seriously and literally can and often do follow these teachings.

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