Earlier this year after The Hamilton Spectator made the public aware Crossroads Christian Communications executives Ron and Reynold Mainse had allegedly invested in an ponzi scheme, the founders sons and their wives were yanked as hosts of the flagship show.
We want to inform you that Ron and Reynold Mainse will not be appearing on any Crossroads programming or otherwise represent Crossroads while they focus their energies on certain matters in their personal lives. They have stepped down from their duties until such time as the Board of Directors has a complete understanding of all of the issues related to a financial investment matter that they were involved in outside of their ministry at Crossroads.
 In July Crossroads board announced the organization had been cleared in a forensic audit; personal statements were released from both Ron and Reynold acknowledged they had been finders for Axcess Automation/Funds. It is not publicly known how much money the hosts lost, or who they drew into investing during their involvement with Gordon Driver/Axcess.  It is not known if the hosts remained on the payroll during the internal investigation. It is not known if investors drawn in by Ron and Reynold were told what the brothers finder fee was. It is not known how much the brothers made in finders fees.
It appears (and this is vague to me) that retired founder David Mainse who hosted the summer fundraiser will be hosting 100 Huntley Street once a week. I’m open to correction on my understanding.
Ron’s father David Mainse has announced Ron Mainse, President of Communication for Crossroads is returning to the show with his wife Ann the Tuesday after Thanksgiving.  (October 13th?) with a half hour interview with Crossroads Christian Communications US President Jim Cantelon.
In July the charity received an all-clear from the Canadian Council of Christian Charities.
CCCC is satisfied that the board has fulfilled its responsibility to act in a prudent, proactive and thorough manner to address this issue and safeguard the ministry. They took the matter very seriously when they became aware of it, and have sought and acted upon several different types of professional advice. As it should, the board has exercised independence from management. It has acted in what it believes are the best interests of the ministry, as is their duty. Beyond these general comments, CCCC will not report what the board has done because it is the responsibility of the Crossroads board and management to determine how much of this information to make public.
After the 1/2 interview Ron and Ann Mainse will return to hosting 100 Huntley Street by promoting a book associated with an independent film in the US.
The 2008 film Fireproof has been packaged with a book The Love Dare which was part of the story line in the film. It sold 2 1/2 million copies in the US. The screenwriters will be releasing a follow up book this month.
Ron Mainse will return to the show with a half hour interview with Jim Cantelon, President of Crossroads Christian Communications USA.
No word on Reynold and wife Kathy Mainse return to air.
It is not known if Reynold Mainse has resumed his position as VP of Missions. Â
Mainse relative David Rutledge was ordered by the OSC in May to cease all activity with Axcess Automation/Funds. Rutledge was the former director of ministries at Crossroads prior to moving to Axcess Funds.Â
There is a civil suit ongoing in the US between Gordon Driver/Axcess Automation/Funds and the SEC/CFTC. As well there is an on-going criminal investigation in the US.
The Commodities Future Trading Commission court documents state the 13.5 million ponzi scheme targeted 100+ investors from Canada and the US. Investors who were introduced to Axcess Automation/Funds through connections with Crossroads Christian Communications and who lost a great deal have remained publicly quiet.
Regulatory timeline
Media timeline
Status report of CFTC civil suit
ChristianWeek reported in August Ron and Reynold Mainse were not facing charges.
 Canadian Christianity reported neither brother had taken investment training as was believed when the story became public in Canada.
ChristianWeek
Did the board do the right thing when it removed the Mainse brothers from their positions at Crossroads? Why did they wait until the Hamilton Spectator story appeared before they took public action? Is there more housecleaning yet to come? How will donations be affected? What other changes are likely?
Media coverage has been odd, a few Canadian media outlets picked up the story but didn’t correct an error calling Crossroads a church. It is not. It is a charity with an off-shoot non-profit cable network, CTS.
A commenter made a reasonable point this summer.
What questions would you ask?
I was thinking today about accountability of Christian ministries including the David Mainse clan and how they choose to be accountable to people of their own choosing even though their tax exemption and money comes from the public and not God!
As a matter of fact God has nothing to do with their ministry or accountability for just like King Saul in 1 Samuel 15 chose to do what he wanted to do and ignore what he didn’t like even if it was God who told him to do it, they do the same!
Edited – Off topic – BD
I anticipate good and great things to come out from this exposure of Wolves in sheep’s clothing!
Walter, let’s not mix up all ministries into one lump.
It a surprise to no one who has read this blog that it was merely a matter of time before Ron and Reynold would be back on-air.
That was the plan, wasn’t it?
I’d like to see what Jim Cantelon has to ask.
If you look at Ron Mainse statement he wants to make restitution.
Some of the questions I have about that is make restitution how?
He earns a salary from the charity, so is he going to use that to pay people back?
Is that what donors want?
If that’s the plan is it biblical and ethical?
Who does he have to make restitution to?
He has not said how many people he was a finder for, how much he made as a finder…
What do investors who were harmed by his actions want?
Being rich is not a sin, I think what you are pondering is how did the Mainse family make their money and have they been wise with it?
I also want to know what safeguards the board has put in place so that in the future employees don’t destroy what little is left of public trust.
I also would like to know what kind of financial hit Crossroads has taken because of this scandal.
Has communications with donors and the public been transparent and ethical?
Jim Cantelon has a stake in this 1/2 hour interview, Crossroads pays him. It would have been nice as someone commented earlier to see someone not connected with the charity ask the questions.
Walter, let’s not mix up all ministries into one lump. Bene
1TM 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
Bene
I don’t want to go into a long debate but I am not a novice concerning the lack of accountability by most Evangelical ministries as demonstrated by Jim Bakker and the PTL club, Jimmy Swaggart and his associational and even Billy Graham and his association!
For me money tells me why a person is in the ministry and the question I want to know from every ministry that solicits money from the public is how much does the founder of the ministry make including total compensation and how much do members of his family make from the ministry?
When they hide it and will not tell me that tells me they are hirelings who don’t want people to know because they will stop giving money to them!
I wrote to many prominent Evangelical ministries in America requesting this information and only the director of Evangelical Council of Financial Accountability came clean and told me his salary and benefits and sent me a copy of his income tax!
Now the President of United States is a public servant and he reveals his salary as well as his income tax filing! So I expect the same from anybody whose income comes from public donations!
My critics tell me that I have to reveal my salary but I am a private individual and don’t own or run a non profit corporation or church and don’t have tax exemption status.
If any ministry wants to keep their total salaries secret let them become a private corporation and give up their tax exemption status!
And the other issue here is that the Mainse brothers for all their talk didn’t do anything to help the victims? And actions speak louder than words!
The Mainse brothers have demonstrated todate they are not true men of God and should not even be in Christian leadership because they are a joke!
I agree victims are the people who have been dumped, ignored, shoved under the proverbial rug, have no voice. As in most alleged religious fraud the perpetrators suck all the air out of the room.
To me it has always been about the investors who have had their trust betrayed. The reality is the bubble the Mainse brothers lives in makes them victims to. Then they victimized.
It’s not okay, it’s never going to be okay.
Crossroads is an organization and it will self-protect at all costs.
I agree this goes to character, individually and collectively and Mark Petersens point haunts me because over the months actions indicate this is not possible. I will listen to the interview.
“If anything, I am hoping for an organization which is transparent, accessible, and though fallible, authentic. I want to hear the full story, the humbling story—not one coated with religious mumbo-jumbo where image is more valued than substance. That’s where this story began; it doesn’t need to end there.”
Bene! You are dreaming in color and in my opinion it will never happen!
I have never seen a wolf in sheep’s clothing repent or come clean and that is why I laugh at Todd Bentley and all his foolish statements that have no basis in truth!
I may have missed something… has there been clarity in respect of whether or not the investors knew that those who recruited them were being paid finders fees for their efforts? Perhaps Jim Cantelon can bring clarity by asking this question on air. Why aren’t investors speaking up?
‘why aren’t investors speaking up?’ I can speak to that!
Tim, it’s hard to speak up. Lawyers tell you not to. One feels stupid for getting ‘duped’! You want to just sleep all day. You trust no one. You get confused and ask yourself, ‘where is God in all of this?’. No hope for the future! You make sacrifices your whole entire life and for what, it’s all gone. It’s a long, long list. The Driver victims are still new at this. I’m not sure Driver victims have moved away from grieving yet.
I find it particularly difficult for Christians. During the past few days I have been trying address some of the issues that Christian victims face. You know, forgiveness, justice, just to name a few.
Tim, it’s not easy! My advice for victims is to connect with others Driver victims.
As of two weeks ago, I was happy just waiting for the police to work on our case. Finding two new websites, was the catalyst, that made me search for others. I am happy to say, I stared off with one, grew to two, then three. We are comparing notes and sharing information, it’s wonderful. We may even become a lot stronger during the next few days.
Driver victims, speak up! right here on Bene’s blog. Connect, compare, conquer and heal!
I’m sure Jim Cantelon will concentrate on how well Ron and Anne came through their trial and all the lessons they have learned from it. I doubt the victims will be part of their discussion.
Walter: I do dream in colour, don’t you?:^)
I trust God, I’m a walking example of redemption and the amazing love of God. I’m not the assistant Holy Spirit, I am called to love, to do justice, love mercy and walk humbly before Him.
Tim:
I don’t know why investors haven’t spoken up.
There has been no clarity as yet, I certainly want to listen to this interview.
To be honest, in the years I’ve been blogging I’ve not been afraid to tackle tough issues. I’ve not seen one like this.
Thanks MenchMayer.
We do not know how many investors were directly brought in by Crossroads employees (Reynold says he brought in 10-15 which irks me immensely because he doesn’t know or is intentionally vague) there may be an added ‘clan’ or ‘pack’ factor.
Ron Mainse knows, he has chosen not to say, and that diminishes people in a way I find disgusting.
Every investor they ‘found’ trusted them and that betrayal of trust does not need to be compounded by publicly lumping people into a vague 10 or 15 or an unacknowledged set or group of donors or friends.
Thank you for helping us to listen – we have much to learn.
I’d like to see investors be more than shadows, more than victims, more than just duped Crossroad donors or friends who may believe they are merely seen as the sum of their investment or losses.
1SAM 2:27 Then a man of God came to Eli and said to him, “Thus says the LORD: ‘Did I not clearly reveal Myself to the house of your father when they were in Egypt in Pharaoh’s house? 2:28 ‘Did I not choose him out of all the tribes of Israel to be My priest, to offer upon My altar, to burn incense, and to wear an ephod before Me? And did I not give to the house of your father all the offerings of the children of Israel made by fire? 2:29 ‘Why do you kick at My sacrifice and My offering which I have commanded in My dwelling place, and honor your sons more than Me, to make yourselves fat with the best of all the offerings of Israel My people?’ 2:30 “Therefore the LORD God of Israel says: ‘I said indeed that your house and the house of your father would walk before Me forever.’ But now the LORD says: ‘Far be it from Me; for those who honor Me I will honor, and those who despise Me shall be lightly esteemed.
Bene
I trust in God also but give me a testimony in the bible where a wolf in sheep’s clothing repented or tell me of a wolf who repented?
Wolves in sheep’s clothing are a special evil breed who must be treated differently from others!
MenschMayer:
Thank you for having the courage to speak up. I am sorry to hear of your losses and trust that you and your family find strength and hope knowing that there actually are people who care; who are concerned and are keeping you in prayer. That’s not an empty promise. Keep going! God sees it all and Walter nails the subject of wolves in sheeps clothing.
I agree that there is opportunity for catharsis and healing if the victims of these alleged schemes would come together in support of one another in common purpose in a public forum such as this blog. A united group of people speaking up would help ensure the media, law makers and law enforcers do not sweep these heartbreaking situations under the carpet.
Easily said; not so easily done for all the reasons you mention and more. Understood.
BD:
“Every investor they ‘found’ trusted them…”
I may be persistent on this point — thus far we don’t know if the investors knew there were finders fees being paid to those who introduced them to the investment…to me, that would seem to be important. If I were an investor and did not know that finders fees were being paid I would be even more sickened as I learned of the total loss of my capital investment.
Thanks BD for all you’re doing.
Hi Tim.
I’m sure that my ex-Financial Guru will fight me more, now that we have gone public. It would have served him well to pay us back.
However, at this point, I am coming forward to help others. It’s not about me anymore. We are at the stage now, that we have a new plan for our lives and it’s actually refreshing. Not easy!
I have only been coming forward for a short while. We are already connecting with all kinds of victims. We are writing letters to FSCO, Financial Institutions, the police, the media and each other. We are comparing our experience and we are finding all kinds of similarities, documents and empty promises. We all have different stories, yet our own experiences are similar in the technique used to rope us in. Remember, there is power in numbers.
I think the Driver victims are not at our stage yet. I have been fighting alone, for a long time, month after month after month! In the back of your mind, one still hopes that the advisor can get back on their feet and you can still get some money back. Or even worse, your lawyer and the law can get you some money back. In our case, once you realize that the money you may get back, is from possible future victims, you just feel sick!
What you don’t understand as a victim at first is, that your lawyer can only do so much within the law. You can go in, to their fancy office, all hopeful. Then one day, your eyes are opened to the fact that Canadian law is very restricted, when it comes to white collar crimes. For us, we ran into many road blocks with the law. Then you see your 30 page lawyer bill and you wonder who the villain is.
I’m finding, coming forward and connecting with other victims as productive, if not more so. It’s better than just sitting around and waiting for your lawyer to call, day after ‘excruciating’ day. As victims, we have a common goal. Lawyers have money as their goal!!! They keep the case going, it’s called ‘building up billable hours’, it’s even legal!
I hope someone Driver victims steps into a leadership role soon.
I’m pushing the button, mistakes and all!!! I hope you get my point!
Yes, very sadly, I think it will be business as usual.
I like Tim’s question it is valid and important and as he points out:
“…thus far we don’t know if the investors knew there were finders fees being paid to those who introduced them to the investment…to me, that would seem to be important.”
Thanks Tim.
MenschMayer:
Yes, I get your point as will others.
Thank you again for having the courage to speak up.
As you reach out and help to support others you too will find strength to carry on. Don’t give up! Keep going!
Mensch, I’m tempted to blame a ‘system’ or systems for all the corruption, but really the bottom line is that the problem is corrupt hearts. There must be a lawyer out there who’s heart is such that he/she will care about you and care about the problem of investment fraud and not just $$$ – so I pray, and I’m sure others here will also, that the Lord will help you find the right lawyer that you need at this time for this particular situation…
May God bless and strengthen you as you battle through, I pray He will restore everything you have lost and bring you healing !
Hi Ben,
It has been a while since I posted. A couple points of clarification
- I saw only a personal statement released by Crossroads from Ron. I do not believe a personal statement was released by Crossroads from Reynold.
- Anne is still hosting on Friday and has been throughout this season. So she is not really “returning”.
- I had heard on air that Ron is returning but they did not say in what capacity. I think assuming that he is returning as the 5 day a week host would be a dangerous jump to make.
- CTS is not an “off-shoot” it is a completely separate legal entity. You are correct that Crossroads is a non-profit and is not a church.
- You imply that the Mainse’ are rich. This is false. Why do you think that they are?
- I liked what you said about waiting to hear what Ron says in the interview. I am hoping this is revealing.
- It is dangerous and wrong to lump all the investors together as a homogeneous group. As I have said in previous posts, I know some of the victims. I was speaking to one of them this past week. He was approached by a western investment group and not Ron or Reynold. He invested not because of greed or a “corrupt heart” (as Therese said) but because he thought it was a good investment opportunity and he implicitly trusted the investment group that presented this opportunity to him. He has invested with this group most of his adult life. He is guilty not of sin or greed, but of just being naive.
Garnet, I was referring to lawyers who don’t care about their clients and who find it in their best interests to prolong cases instead of trying to bring them to a quick resolution because it racks up their fees, as MenschMayer was mentioning. The system rewards them for not doing their job properly. Feel free to apply my “corrupt heart” comment to investment fraudsters too if you like, because the system the way it is also seems to be in their favour, but I was not talking about the investors.
Garnet: Your note to Ben…
“…You are correct that Crossroads is a non-profit and is not a church…”
My understanding is that Crossroads is a Canadian registered charity. It is distinct from a not for profit organization for the following reason:
A registered charity is exempt from most taxes, and can issue tax deductible receipts. A nonprofit organization has tax-exempt status only and cannot issue tax deductible receipts.
Donors give to Crossroads (and to many other charities) for all good and proper reasons but also often for the promise of a tax receipt.
To reiterate, Crossroads is a charitable organization not a not for profit organization.
I think understandings around the designation of the registration of Crossroads are becoming caught in semantics. Crossroads does not describe itself as a church however it is designated via CRA as a
religious charity – and that is stated on the first page of the T3010 Annual Filing Summary to CRA. In order to qualify for that designation the organization must satisfy CRA accordingly that it is indeed a religious charity.
Crossroads may not be a ‘church’ in the ‘established’ sense but it seeks to be a place of prayer: a place of worship; a place where people seek to communicate faith and moral values/ ethics; a place where people learn; a place where the less fortunate and needy find help, value and meaning; a place of community and a place where Faith is, for the most part, lived out day to day and where God is – or ought to be – given all Glory, Honour and Praise.
‘Church’ as we know is not a physical structure – it is comprised of God’s people – the living stones. The true church.
The question perhaps is what consitutes “church” from a quasi legal perspective if definitions are sought in common debate.
There’s no room for debate on God’s definition of church as He makes that crystal clear.
For most folk, to all intents and purposes, Crossroads is an extension of the local church and reaches a constituency who otherwise cannot make it to church on Sunday mornings. For them, Crossroads has become their ‘church’. I venture that quite a number of these folk haven’t a clue about the goings on in recent months. Shame really.
‘he is guilty not of sin or greed, but of just being naive.’
Garnet: I can fully understand how easy it is, to fall for the wrong investment opportunity. I too think, out of all of the finders, Anne and Ron are more victims, than greedy investors.
I’m not exactly sure how Ron and Anne made their so called ‘riches’. But…
This is how easy it can be. Most of us have equity in our house, right? Someone that is experienced and has knowledge around finances, can talk a lot of us into putting a new mortgage on our house. Here is the clincher! Before you know it, you are investing your ‘new found wealth’ with your new ‘trusted’ advisor. The advisors know this all too well, but a trusting person may not.
After all, mortgage rates have been low for years and your very ‘knowledgeable financial advisor’, can make you money on your new found wealth. That is how it’s done!
Most of us have made sacrifices to pay that mortgage all our adult lives and in an instant it is gone!!!
I would not be surprised if this was one of the techniques used on both 100 Driver investors and over 100 Reeve investors. That is a staggering 200 investors in the Burlington/Kitchener area. Most would have houses,with some sort of equity. A lot of these investors, in both camps, are Christians!!
Therese. The first lawyer that we went to was a Christian and too busy to talk to us. He sent us to a another lawyer, that said he would not touch our case without a $30,000. retainer. The next lawyer did not tell us he charges to read emails and gets paid by the minute. Up until this point, I had only used ever used a Real Estate lawyer. These lawyers get $400. to $600. per hour!! When he had a bill over $20,000,. he said he would not move forward until we paid that bill. After all, he is sure we have family with money that could help us. Ya, our family was lining up! As part of our $20,000. we regularly received a lecture from our lawyer, as to how naive we are. Remember, he gets paid by the minute and they are well trained in, ‘building up billable hours’ for the firm. Of course, this is only my experience. No offense to the good lawyer out there. Maybe you can call me! and prove it!
If you can find me a lawyer that can help, send them in my direction.
“Crossroads is a charitable organization not a not for profit organization”
PROV 22:16 He who oppresses the poor to increase his riches, And he who gives to the rich, will surely come to poverty.
2COR 6:3 We give no offense in anything, that our ministry may not be blamed.
Tim I was thinking today of all the fools who have been giving to Crossroads with the expectation that God would bless them for it because they are participating in the LORD’S WORK!
However God doesn’t bless fools even though to give to rich fools like the Mainse because true men of God have integrity. They don’t lie or cheat or cover things up but are transparent and this Mainze Brother Ponzi fiasco has shown everybody they are not what they have seem to portray themselves as men of God men of integrity never mind caring compassionate people!
MenschMayer – Jesus Christ didn’t have nice things to say about lawyers primarily because they are parasites who get rich off people’s troubles! For some they are a necessary evil but I have never encountered a good honest lawyer be he or she Christian or nonChristian. Hence going public with a story about an alleged criminal is another method that could be used!
Walter – actually crossroads is both a non-profit and a charitable organization.
Walter – what makes you think the Mainse’ are rich?
I think your theology is a bit off. God will bless the giver based on the givers heart – not the heart of the person receiving the gift – and not on the size of the gift.
Your credibility shrinks Walter when you say things like that about Lawyers. There are many ethical Christian lawyers.
There are many ethical Christian lawyers.
Garnet, please send my one!
Garnet
My credibility is not the issue but yours is! David Mainse spends the summers in Canada and the winters in Florida which most average Canadian don’t? That’s makes him rich not poor.
And of course you know the salaries of the Mainse brothers who invested money in a fraudulent Ponzi schemes and still have their homes while some of their victims do not? That makes them rich?
And PROV 22:16 states And he who gives to the rich, will surely come to poverty.
So it’s your theology that is wrong because there is no scripture verse in the bible that states God will bless the giver based on the givers heart especially if he gives to liars, deceivers and thieves?
By the way prove to me that the Mainse are people of integrity who earned their money in the private sector and not through connections through Crossroads? You cannot!
What do you mean ethical Christian lawyers? My statement stands I have never encountered a good honest lawyer be he or she Christian or nonChristian!
Speaking of lawyers, John Arnott, Steve Long and Toronto Airport Christian fellowship in their $ 50 million dollar extortion lawsuit against me that was based on lies, perjury used a nonChristian Jewish firm of Solicitors who had no problems lying, committing perjury and obstructing justice and doing whatever to win their case. Of course they didn’t use Christian solicitors! How come?
As a result I have asked the law enforcement and the Attorney General of Ontario to investigate and charge all of them including Arnott and Long for the criminal acts of perjury and obstruction of justice as well as thievery!
They dragged me before about nine Justices to try and gag me and put me in jail so I would not tell the world about their thievery, lies and perjury and help write a book on the subject of “liars and perjurers in Revival”
For the record, I had no problem pointing out to many Justices especially The Honourable Justice T. Herman that
…” the resulting contempt motion hearing was illegal and unlawful because the Justice by her words “But we are here!†sanctioned and condoned that TACF Solicitors could lie, break the rules and cheat but the end justified the means of getting their contempt motion into court!
How any presiding Justice could condone and support the illegal and unlawful actions of TACF concerning the Triage Court of March 31, 2008 is beyond Mr. Kambulow’s understanding in a normal civilized society and is a blatant example of lawlessness by the Solicitors and the presiding Justice.
Financial crimes and hate crimes, slandering, character assassination by TACF and its executive John Arnott and Steve Long or their representatives, are serious matters that cannot be ignored nobody including any Justice or Government authorities. ”
I also told the different Justices of the Supreme court of Ontario:
“TACF in its lawsuit vs Walter Kambulow says it’s a nonprofit organization not a church. But Walter Kambulow has been proclaiming it’s a typical family run and owned ministry/church, a money making business, a “cash cow†for its elite benevolent rulers, its board of directors are composed of family members and staff who rubber stamp the wishes of the founder and should be thoroughly investigated by the governments and news media just like its friends are, including Benny Hinn and Richard Roberts who are not men of integrity!
United States Senate Committee is Investigating Six Major Ministries Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn, Eddie Long, Joyce Meyer, and Randy and Paula White. Three of the six – Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland and Creflo Dollar – also sit on the Board of Regents for the Oral Roberts University. Benny Hinn and Richard Roberts are very good friends of Pastor John Arnott the founder of TACF.
Walter Kambulow maintains that the Canadian Government and its agencies as well as the province of Ontario should now investigate Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship , friends of Benny Hinn, and just as bad as Benny Hinn who are presently, using lies and intimidation, suing a private individual,
…On April 25, 2006, Pastor Steve Long falsely and maliciously published, to the Rick Meyers as listed THE TACF EXHIBIT and/or to the world at large on the internet false and defamatory words of and concerning the Walter Kambulow.
Pastor Steve Long had no direct relationship with the Walter Kambulow and did not know him at all! Sub sequentially in spite of numerous emails and publications by the defendant on the matter the Walter Kambulow refused to substantiate his lies, defamation and character assassination of a stranger or take back his words and stonewalled the Walter Kambulow at every occasion. Steve Long wrote to Rick Meyers and said
- Walter is as bad as they come
- He has been disciplined by several churches in his past for rebelllion and blames every and all churches he has every been a part of.
- The way that he slanders his wife in public is horendous.
- and if he had been a part of our church, which he wasn’t; I wold be all over for him for slander. ;
- He is not a part of our chrch so we are not responding to him-
Steve Long and TACF have continually stonewalled Walter Kambulow and continue to propagate the lies, slander and defamation about him!”
So don’t get me started about lawyers, TACF, Arnott or Long or I will write another book about how they have no integrity, lied, cheated, played dirty tricks, committed perjury and obstructed justice and then hypocritically say “That we may walk in God’s love and give it away to away to Toronto and the world!”
Mind you all the major news media in the world as well as law enforcement and leaders in government now all know what Pastors John Arnott and Steve Long and Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship are really like! They are not very nice people at all – never mind Christians other wise they would have never dragged me into many courts with their lies and perjury and would have talked to me, a total stranger they had never met!
Garnet talk is cheap and actions isn’t? So I am sure you can provide MenschMayer with a good Christian lawyer who will not take him to the cleaner and lie and do all kinds of nasty things in the process like other lawyers that I know and have had real experience with?
According to the Criminal Code of Canada – Part IV Offences Against the Administration of Law and Justice Perjury is a serious crime! And according to article 132. Every one who commits perjury is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years. R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 132; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 17; 1998, c. 35, s. 119.
“So why do I have to remind you and others of your duty concerning dealing with the crimes of perjury and obstruction of justice by John Arnott, Steve Long, and Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship versus Walter Kambulow in their $ 50 million lawsuit?”
Misleading Justice
Perjury
Don’t lie in court. Duh. 131. (1) Subject to subsection (3), every one commits perjury who, with intent to mislead, makes before a person who is authorized by law to permit it to be made before him a false statement under oath or solemn affirmation, by affidavit, solemn declaration or deposition or orally, knowing that the statement is false.
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(1.1) Subject to subsection (3), every person who gives evidence under subsection 46(2) of the Canada Evidence Act, or gives evidence or a statement pursuant to an order made under section 22.2 of the Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters Act, commits perjury who, with intent to mislead, makes a false statement knowing that it is false, whether or not the false statement was made under oath or solemn affirmation in accordance with subsection (1), so long as the false statement was made in accordance with any formalities required by the law of the place outside Canada in which the person is virtually present or heard.
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(2) Subsection (1) applies, whether or not a statement referred to in that subsection is made in a judicial proceeding.
Application
(3) Subsections (1) and (1.1) do not apply to a statement referred to in either of those subsections that is made by a person who is not specially permitted, authorized or required by law to make that statement.
R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 131; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 17; 1999, c. 18, s. 92.
Punishment
132. Every one who commits perjury is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.
R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 132; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 17; 1998, c. 35, s. 119.
Corroboration
133. No person shall be convicted of an offence under section 132 on the evidence of only one witness unless the evidence of that witness is corroborated in a material particular by evidence that implicates the accused.
R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 133; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 17.
Idem
134. (1) Subject to subsection (2), every one who, not being specially permitted, authorized or required by law to make a statement under oath or solemn affirmation, makes such a statement, by affidavit, solemn declaration or deposition or orally before a person who is authorized by law to permit it to be made before him, knowing that the statement is false, is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
Application
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to a statement referred to in that subsection that is made in the course of a criminal investigation.
R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 134; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 17.
135. Repealed, R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 17
Witness giving contradictory evidence
136. (1) Every one who, being a witness in a judicial proceeding, gives evidence with respect to any matter of fact or knowledge and who subsequently, in a judicial proceeding, gives evidence that is contrary to his previous evidence is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years, whether or not the prior or later evidence or either is true, but no person shall be convicted under this section unless the court, judge or provincial court judge, as the case may be, is satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused, in giving evidence in either of the judicial proceedings, intended to mislead.
Evidence in specific cases
(1.1) Evidence given under section 714.1, 714.2, 714.3 or 714.4 or under subsection 46(2) of the Canada Evidence Act or evidence or a statement given pursuant to an order made under section 22.2 of the Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters Act is deemed to be evidence given by a witness in a judicial proceeding for the purposes of subsection (1).
Definition of “evidence”
(2) Notwithstanding the definition “evidence” in section 118, “evidence”, for the purposes of this section, does not include evidence that is not material.
Proof of former trial
(2.1) Where a person is charged with an offence under this section, a certificate specifying with reasonable particularity the proceeding in which that person is alleged to have given the evidence in respect of which the offence is charged, is evidence that it was given in a judicial proceeding, without proof of the signature or official character of the person by whom the certificate purports to be signed if it purports to be signed by the clerk of the court or other official having the custody of the record of that proceeding or by his lawful deputy.
Consent required
(3) No proceedings shall be instituted under this section without the consent of the Attorney General.
R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 136; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), ss. 18, 203; 1999, c. 18, s. 93.
Fabricating evidence
137. Every one who, with intent to mislead, fabricates anything with intent that it shall be used as evidence in a judicial proceeding, existing or proposed, by any means other than perjury or incitement to perjury is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 125.
Garnet:
A charity is by definition not for profit.. In my earlier posting I was seeking to highlight the nuancing between the two legal designations.
Tim,
I was helping Walter understand the same point.
EPH 4:28 Let him who stole steal no longer, but rather let him labor, working with his hands what is good, that he may have something to give him who has need.
Garnet
I didn’t ask for your help on how to understand you point of view? And the main point was “Walter – what makes you think the Mainse’ are rich?”
However you provided no help whatsoever and have not shown to me how the Mainse have become rich through hard work but rather through their connections with Crossroads!
Walter,
My in-laws go to Florida in the winter. My mother-in-law did not work (or rather worked at home) and my father-in-law was a laborer. They are not rich, they just did a very good job of saving.
The Mainse’ are not rich, they are very typical middle class.
the Mainse have become rich through hard work but rather through their connections with Crossroads!
Yes, most of ‘them’ are middle class. Maybe even closer to upper middle class. At the same time, everyone knows, that if you are in ANY ‘inner circle’ you have an advantage. ‘They’ have advantages over you and I that is a given! maybe free studio time, or leading trips to Israel for example. I know when you take a group of students to Italy, for every six students, one teacher goes for free. I’m sure the same deal applies to the many trips Norma Jean Mainse has led to the Middle East. To me, this is a nice little perk, right? Clearly an advantage that comes from connections with Crossroads. Just one example!
Will you Garnet and Tim, not even agree to this? come on, everyone knows that connections can make or break you! It’s that simple!
Typical middle class don’t conduct ponzi schemes and create victims?
You father in law works with his hands unlike the Mainse brothers who have become rich off the proceeds of their connections through Crossroads which the typical middle class doesn’t have?
Your father in law doesn’t own much real estate unlike David Mainse and their clan members?
And typical middle class don’t live in a million dollar home in Kilbride, Ontario north of Burlington like one of the Mainse do?
No good job of saving enables a typical middle class to purchase a million dollar home!
So we can safely say that the Mainse clan are not your typical middle class?
So why are you defending them?
Do you approve of what they have been doing and are doing including doing nothing for the victims they have created and pursuing the mighty dollar without trusting God to provide as they have been telling us to do?
MT 6:33 “But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
If God was their best friend how come He allowed them to be deceived and to hurt many people in the process and then watch them be hypocritical and do nothing for the victims they have now created?
Hi Walter:
I know you also went through a terrible time with your lawsuit, and I appreciate you putting up the relevant sections of the CCC.
Please stick to topic, I’m curious – if you had a question for Jim Cantelon to ask Ron Mainse (like Tim did) what would it be?
Hi Garnet:
Good to see you again, don’t run off, a couple of questions.
I think I hear you saying a legitimate investment firm picked up Axcess Automation/Funds.
If that how your friend lost. what did the firm have to say to him?
The OSC says no trading was done in Canada, can you help us understand how this western firm being involved works?
Begs the question, how many other firms also picked it up?
Do you know if this firm was directly connected in any way to David Rutledge and his work with Driver/Axcess?
Ron states on Crossroads corporate page:
“A couple of years ago, I was presented with an investment opportunity by someone I considered to be a close friend.”
He could be referring to his cousin David Rutledge, we don’t know.
That is a question Cantelon could ask.
I know CTS is a non-profit and I call it an arm because it was a project of David Mainse. But you are correct it is separate, they merely use the facility and rent back to Crossroads. The CRTC documents are available online.
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/1999/PB99-2.htm
You are correct, Ron Mainse statement is on the corporate site at Crossroads, Reynold released a personal email. There is no indication it was approved by the Crossroads board.
Heaven’s Rehearsal (Reynold’s GTO project) has tentatively scheduled it’s show for Uganda in 2010. We don’t know how much the last Cdn one lost financially, do you? I doubt he could get enough Cdn partners together to put on another one in this country, so it appears it’s being taken overseas. The Cdn event was not funded by Crossroads in his capacity as VP of Missions.
http://worldembrace.org/en/update.php
I’ve been very clear in pointing out media calling Crossroads a church was incorrect. I’ve also been clear no media outlet corrected the error (which was pulled from wire copy). Having said that, it is semantics given everyone calling for prayer gets put in a data base.
Some of the hosts are ordained by the PAOC, which has not released a statement about both Mainse acknowledging they were finders.
Thanks for letting us know Ann is working on-air Fridays, I saw she was hosting the year end fundraiser, it was mentioned in a post at the time.
The video with David Mainse announcing Ron and Ann’s return should be up on the 100 Huntley site now. Thursday, October 1st, 2009. http://100huntley.com/program.php
I have posted about innocent greed, I have posted about how and why various people get sucked into investments.
As for what others think, they are free to speak. Thanks for sharing the information you have. Clarity for investors and donors is important.
If you go to 100 Huntley Facebook, it appears fans are in the dark, they haven’t read the corporate pages, haven’t done any research.
That’s to be expected and they are also free to speak and form their opinions.
As for rich, fair enough, do you know how is that class defined in Canada?
We can start with median income. Stats Can http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/090603/dq090603a-eng.htm
I agree, we do not know under what capacity Ron Mainse will return other than what was said by his father this week. Until the interview all we have to go on is the website bios and the decisions of the board.
if you had a question for Jim Cantelon to ask Ron Mainse (like Tim did) what would it be?
JMS 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 1:23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 1:24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 1:25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.1:26 If anyone among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one’s religion is useless. 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.
Question for Jim Cantelon – What are the Mainse Brother’s doing in a practical way to help and recompense their victims for their losses, sorrow and pain besides speaking empty hypocritical words like “we are sorry and we love you?” Nothing?
Good question Walter – however the interview with Cantelon hasn’t been done yet.
Your answer is your answer, I want to hear what Ron has to say, I’m sure you do also.
Far more than that I’d like investors drawn in by Ron and Reynold Mainse to speak up.
Reynold said 10-15, again I’d like Cantelon to ask Ron Mainse how many he involved.
Another note for Garnet. Looking at the tax return for Crossroads Christian Communications, the salary range of it’s five top employees is above Stats Can median.
2008
$1-$39,999 3700
$40,000-$79,999 3710
$80,000-$119,999 3720 -4
$119,999 and over 3730- 1
Bene – Figures lies and so do liars and if we put them together and they can mean anything.
Now four members of Crossroads earn $80-120 and one over $ 120?
So lets assume that Ron makes $ 150 and Ann $ 120 for a total of $ 270?
That is quite a lot of money for just shooting your mouth off and doing nothing of any value just because your father founded the ministry?
I am sure out of these funds for the next ten years Ron and Ann can really help some of their victims?
I also didn’t realize that many of Crossroads staff were directly connected or affiliated with the Pentecostal Assembly of Canada which is the sister group of the Assembly of God in United States and ordained Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, Karl Strader. Morris Cerrullo and Benny Hinn! And the latter group are all scoundrels who have given us some very interesting scandals?
The heads of America’s 500 biggest companies received an aggregate 54% pay raise last year. As a group, their total compensation amounted to $5.1 billion, versus $3.3 billion in fiscal 2003.
We define total compensation as salary and bonus plus “other” compensation, which includes vested restricted stock grants and “stock gains,” the value realized from exercising stock options during the just-concluded fiscal year.
Garnet and Bene,
Because Ron Mainse is considered to be an “executive” he and Ann gets things which your average middle class person doesn’t – “other” compensation and fringe benefits!
Remember my statement that figures lies and so do liars and if we put them together and they can mean anything?
Let’s take the example of Billy Graham who at the age of 83 was taking 100 % salary and was working less than 25 percent of the time. Billy’s salary then was about $ 225,000 but his total compensation including a nurse, a helper, house care, and other things was about $ 450.000.
Now if you own and run a family ministry it’s your cash cow to do what you want to do just like Rodney Howard Browne had his mother, father, himself, brothers and others members of the family on the payroll?
And that is why it’s important to know the total compensation of all the family members working for a” family ministry” like the Straders in Carpenter’s Home Church Lakeland!
Speaking of the Strader clan they received a lot more compensation than a non-family member doing the same job! And I suspect the same is true at Crossroads!
I wonder what David Mainse total compensation is now and how much of his time he works for Crossroads and what is Ron and Ann’s total compensation and not just their salary!
Mensch, I sure wish I did know some people in the legal profession, but unfortunately I don’t….one would think that this would be a great opportunity for a lawyer with some vision and an interest in social justice – investment fraud is hitting the headlines a lot lately, many people are affected, and I would have thought it would be a great thing for a lawyer’s professional reputation to be fighting for the good guys with something like this! Surely not all of them have sold their soul to the almighty $… will continue to pray.
MenschMayer:
Yes, you’re right…this side of Heaven within and without the church often it’s a matter of not what you know but who you know. That’s man’s way but the cleverness of man and woman is no match for God when He decides to intervene and call people and situations to account this side of Heaven.
On the other hand we should not forget that against seemingly insurmountable odds there are many examples in the Bible where individuals and armies thought they had been abandoned and that there was no way forward but destruction…and then God intervened.
God finds a way when often there seems no way. The example of Moses and the Israelites as the Red Sea opened up to make a way and how Pharaoh’s army was consumed as the waters closed over them. Just one example of many.
Please be encouraged and keep standing. As Therese expressed in prayer:
“May God bless and strengthen you as you battle through, I pray He will restore everything you have lost…”
I echo those words and extend them for your family and for all who have been hurt through these alleged investment schemes of which there seem to be more and more coming to light.
Hi Tim and Therese. thank you for your encouragement! It means more to me than you can imagine.
I was interviewed last week and at the end of the interview, the reporter commented, “why are you dealing with this so well?” Considering your situation, I don’t ‘see’ how you can be so positive. I told her my strength is in reading the Bible. As they were writing this down, I could see that might not have been the information they were expecting.
You have all been great. Bene, because of your blog, the new clients have been hooked up to the old information. Excellent!
I hope that by addressing all victims, both from the Driver and Reeve camp, that they too will gain strength and come forward. They too will not listen to everything their lawyer tells them in regards to not sharing anything with anyone. This ‘it could hurt your case’ line really works, if you don’t know your way around the legal system.
I know it is hard to trust anyone right now, but it’s not good to suffer alone either.
Mensch:
Keep going and never, ever give up!
Hi Ben,
It was/is a small but legitimate firm. My friend lost a little more than 100,000. This money represented savings so while the loss is very painful it isn’t going to cause him to lose his house.
I have heard of no connection with this firm and David Rutledge. I expect other than OSC documents they don’t even know who he is.
I didn’t see any of the paper work but my understanding is that investors would be warned it was high risk and would sign various documents indicating that they understood the risk etc.
I don’t know or understand the OSC comment. Perhaps the transactions were completed in the US and hence no trading in Canada?
I am getting a sense that the amount of money brought in my the Mainse brothers is much smaller that the total amount of money brought in by other sources (such as this firm above).
Hi Ben,
Just noticed another post regarding salaries. Their executive salaries are no doubt above the stats can mean.
I couldn’t find it quickly on google this morning but these salaries are below the mean for executives of Canadian companies with 100 employees.
Garnett – So now you changed your tune that the Mainse are not your poor average middle class as their executive salaries are no doubt above the stats can mean?
They are now an underpaid upper middle class?
Mind you I don’t consider them executives but wolves in sheep’s clothing!
Having discuseds many times with prominent pastors and evangelists why they are under paid, I knew that you would state something foolish like this “these salaries are below the mean for executives of Canadian companies with 100 employees.”
However the Mainse brothers and wives are not executives of a private corporation or companies but of a nonprofit corporation appointed there because their father is a founder!
Nobody else was even allowed to apply for their position unlike in the real world of the private sector? Was that fair and just?
They are doing “the Lord’s work” in theory based on the money collected through begging on television from people who are mostly elderly or widows and are not even earning the average income.
You are aware of what the age and earning of the average supporter of 100 Huntley Street who is not aware that Ron and Ann are earning $ 270,000 per year and had no saying in the hiring of a husband and wife team?
Were you aware according to Southern Baptist own statistics the their typical member or supporter is a 45 year married uneducated woman and the people who support Christian Television Ministries in North America are older and no different? In other words they are not even you average Canadian or American in earning power!
And idiots like the Mainse brothers have proved to the world they are being payed too much considering they and their relatives are also profiting from side ventures attached to Crossroads systems and could not handle a simple ponzi scheme properly!
Of course they told all their “suckers” they are earing an agent’s fee because they are men of God, men of integrity?
How stupid do you think people are? If it wasn’t for their father David Mainse being the founder, the Mainse brother would never make it in the real world and not even get an executive salary!
If they want to earn a true executive salary let them resign from the so called ministry and go out in the real world and do an honest day job and stop being wolves in sheep’s clothing who have shown they only prey on the sheep and do nothing for the victims they have created!
Music Royalties, big money!
What do any of you know about the world of Music Royalties?
Check it out with SOCAN and find out how this works.
Some ideas: Who sings on the show, who sang on the show in the past, who gets the money, how much money does one get from SOCAN when you sing an ‘original’ song, who wrote the opening of Circle Square, the Huntley St. opening and so on.
If you can answer these questions, you may be enlightened, as to one more perk that one gets, being on the ‘inside’. Over and above the salary! Since Royalties come from networks.
Garnet – Speaking of executives of Canadian companies with 100 employees if you had done your homework and Crossroad communications was as private company and wasn’t supported by blind uneducated seniors, Ron and Reynolds Mainse would have been fired long time ago.
Not only are the programs and reruns on Crossroads communications very dull and pathetic but their viewers audience is so low and pitiful that their television ratings doesn’t even make it on the chart of Television audience viewers and numbers! As Jesus said about them:
MT 15:14 “Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.”
And sure enough Ron and Reynolds and their wives fell into a ditch with their ponzi scams and now many are reading about it!
They should get out while they can and get an honest job at McDonalds serving people!
Thanks Garnet.
It’s my understanding from reading the Driver/Axcess documents there was no trading in Canada and not much in the US.
The CTFC court documents say there was one Cdn bank account and that a Cdn received a fraudulent statement just prior to the alleged scheme collapsing.
It’s speculation to assume that would have been David Rutledge, but it makes sense. Running Axcess Funds what he knew and believed would help him handle Canadian investors.
You raise a good point – with 100 investors, 15 from the US and the rest from Canada; the central Canadian hub has to be Axcess Funds run by David Rutledge, but as you point out not the only entry point.
David Rutledge was director of ministries at Crossroads before going to work for Gordon Driver. It was a fancy title for a smoozing job to ministers, is it a stretch to assume he would have worked those contacts for Axcess Funds?
We don’t know how many invested in Axcess Automation Funds because of Crossroads. Reynolds 10-15 ‘friends and family’ isn’t saying much of anything, doesn’t add in who Ron invited.
Many such as your friend are financially devestated, and many face a betrayal of trust I can’t get my head around. Again, I commend you for standing with him and speaking up.
One is one too many.
And I understand people think differently because we all run around in different areas of the country and different jobs – but 100 thousand to an individual would be an awful hit for our Stats Can median people.
As for the Stats Can info, agreed; however the last tax return is prior to the world wide economic upheaval.
We know there were layoffs, the public was been Crossroads is economically down 20%.
One of the questions becomes how many actual full time employess were there at that time and how many now?
Also Garnet, there are financial perks as with any company of that size.
As pointed out above, royalties, speaking engagements, the ‘pentecostal’ handshakes.
We could quibble over what is considered rich, all Crossroads has to do is ensure the top salaries on the tax return don’t draw attention by being too far above or below median.
I’m sorry, (personal opinion alert:^) but it’s not like paying Ron and Reynold Mainse is paying talent.
There is some genuine talent on the show, the Mainse brothers are mediocre talking heads paid for their name.
Ron Mainse minored in business in bible college, we don’t know his level of performance in his capacity as president. We now know Ron and Reynold (Ann and Kathy?) did not take any investment courses with The Canadian National Christian Foundation (which is essentially a Cdn storefront for a firm out of the US). Would David Rutledge, Reynold and Ron Mainse have learned licences were required?
Nepotism isn’t a well kept secret at Crossroads, does anyone including fans actually believe the Mainse couples would be offered the same job/responsibilities at other companies?
Wow! Nepotism and Pentecostal handshakes practiced by the God fearing Mainse clan! You must be joking! They are sincere men and women of God anointed ones who cannot be touched never mind questioned? You must be living on another planet or be very evil to say things like that!
However no one can deny they are totally incompetent idiots who could not get a decent job in society except for their father David Mainse! It reminds me of how Karl Strader fired a few people at Carpenter’s Home Church so that Stephen Strader could get a job! But Christian are not a respecter of persons and don’t show partiality because as James tells us it is sin. And Pentecostal Preachers don’t sin and if they do they don’t repent!
Mensche:
Yes, the music royalties area is very lucrative for those with an inside track (no pun intended). One doesn’t need too look far for the answers to your questions.
Walter,
I am not changing my tune although you did make me think. I am basing this on a guess. That guess is that the Mainse wives make little or no money from Crossroads. A lot like pastor’s spouses who do not draw a salary but are “expected” to do a lot of volunteer work.
If Anne does make a salary it is likely that Anne does not make that much because she is not an executive of Crossroads and appears not to have a title.
My income is considerably above the Canadian mean. However I am the only income earner in my family and all my friends have family incomes higher than my family because they have two incomes.
My guess is that the Mainse families fall into a similar category.
A good question for the interview would be to add clarity to their total compensation package. However the interviewer may feel this isn’t really germane to the ponzi scheme issue (only to this blog).
I would go easy on insulting these two individuals. I expect there is a lot of talent there. They have clearly made some big mistakes but then so have I and I expect most of us would say the same. The difference is that my mistakes were less public.
Bene,
I think the Four C’s have an income survey for Canadian charities. It might be useful to get a look at that.
We’ve wandered off track, this was about Ron Mainse interview with Jim Cantelon.:^)
The primary concern at BDBO remains investors drawn into Axcess by Crossroads employees.
Walter, it’s fine and good for me to yack about royalties, speaking engagements and pentecostal handshakes, huffing and puffing isn’t going to help anyone understand Crossroads employees other sources of income.
It’s my opinion, MenchMayer has brought up an important and salient point we can educate ourselves about.
I couldn’t care less if people want to give money to Crossroads, what is an odd myth and continued fostered belief this religious media family is middle class.
I think Ron Mainse and Jim Cantelon understand what is at stake when they do that interview.
We’ll know soon enough.
Garnet:
Kathy Mainse, good example, let’s run with her.
If Kathy does draw money from Crossroads on-air hosting, wouldn’t that income fit under part time employee category?
Did she ever sing on 100 Huntley?
She does outside speaking engagements – google her.
This isn’t about changing your mind, it’s about understanding media and income.
Reynold and Kathy Mainse used their 12 year old to do a One homeless night program/production. How much income is still coming in for their family from that?
http://www.crossroads.ca/homeless/
Heaven’s Rehearsal is heading to Uganda in 2010.
http://www.heavensrehearsal.com/en/
Is Reynold Mainse involved? Does he get paid?
What happened to his media company?
“Reynold is President of World Class Communications Inc.”
(which had a spin-off called World Class Mission) From Samaritan’s Purse.
Does Kathy Mainse sing at her out of studio appearances? I don’t know. Would she sing something which funnels royalties back to the family? I don’t know.
Your guess about wives being compensated for work at Crossroads may well be accurate, Crossroads doesn’t publicly disclose that I’m aware of, so we don’t know.
I’ve donated my on-air time for charity, my choice. I’ve also been paid for my on-air talent for a fundraiser. It’s a job, it’s work, and all the spiritualizing in the world doesn’t change that.
Ann Mainse hosted a 100 Huntley fund-raiser for two weeks without compensation…hmmmm.
You believe it’s possible at least two of the women (Ann/Kathy Mainse) work the Crossroads Friday show for free…hmmmm.
I don’t begrudge anyone making income from their talent at all, not the point.
While wives may not be primary bread-winners, are they compensated for their Crossroads Christian Communications work and have they spun their celebrity off into other paid venues?
That doesn’t begin to address music royalties.
Every show, every time.
Former book royalties.
http://www.librarything.com/author/mainsedavid