By Rick Hiebert. All rights reserved. Used by permission.
Evangelist Todd Bentley, continuing his campaign of working while he is “not working†aired a new webinar on “healing†last Thursday, new wife Jessa featured at its beginning. The Oct. 22 internet broadcast on his website, although not specifically about the scandals that drove him from his work over a year ago now (“Watch the videos,†said Todd Bentley, “We’re not gonna talk about that tonight ‘cause that’s not why we are here.â€). There are bits of news relating to the scandals that Todd lets slip accidentally.
A recording of his webinar now is on streaming video on the front page of his website .
The “healing webinar†itself is a cute idea.
Do I believe that God can heal via the Internet?
Yes.
Do I believe that people can respond to “words of knowledge†over the Internet?
Sure.
But even Bentley’s friends should admit that this way of going about things is open to possible abuse.
One of the most telling criticisms of the Lakeland revival last year was that reporters found that people were not healed after Todd proclaimed from stage that they were, or died after Todd spread the word of their good news. Reporters could check to see if their healing lasted (which given Christ’s own idea that the ten lepers he healed should be examined by others, is a soundly Biblical idea). But with this webinar, this Biblical check and balance is impossible.
Todd could easily say, in this sort of context, that someone has come back from the dead, say, but he can’t or won’t say who it is.
When we compare this with Christ’s healings in the Bible–which, for one, offered contemporary readers and healers of the accounts enough information that they could often track down those who were healed and resurrected for themselves—Todd allows no room for those checking on him to check his work.
Which, I suspect, given how he was clobbered by the press during and after Lakeland, Todd prefers.
His words of knowledge in the webinar seem precise, but they are phrased in such a way that in any largish Internet audience will have at least two or three who answer to it. There was sure to be a “young teenage girl†with bulimia†or a “lady with an anxiety disorder†or a “Peter†who had suffered a leg injury at work. Todd even gave himself an out by saying that if Peter, say, was a friend of yours, you could tip him off and he could log on to the recording later “and get his healingâ€.
If you have vague words with an open ended response time, that improves your chances for success.
Another of the ways that the old fashioned in person way is better is that when and if someone is healed, it adds impetus to the preaching of the gospel.
It allows the onlookers to have the majesty and grace of God brought home to them directly. Not so with a recording where you don’t see or hear people getting healed directly.
Why settle for second best…unless you can’t “heal†in the very best way?
The webinar interspersed “words of knowledge†with Bentley answering various reader-submitted questions on healing.
It opened with Jessa and Todd praying together. He opened the floor to her getting “words of knowledge too”, but she ducked out after the opening prayer, and he did the rest.
Bentley was sure to attribute anything good that might happen to “the greatness of His [God’s] powerâ€. “Is anything too great for the Lordâ€, Bentley asked, adding that he was claiming the promise that God would redeem his life from destruction. This is a  power which apparently was unable to save Bentley’s first marriage. (I wonder if Bentley is eager to see God really bring “righteousness†and “justice†in his life.)
Bentley adds, shortly after the 15 minute mark, that he had to hold on to the promise that there was life in the midst  of destruction and that there would be justice for the oppressed. (Readers recalling what has happened to Shonnah and his kids would see this claiming this as a bit of hubris on his part.)
Late in the video Bentley mentions that he needs money so that they can “go to school†and “have a house to live inâ€. A commenter at Bene Diction Blogs On has mentioned, on a second or third hand basis, that Shonnah may have had to sell her house. Did Todd’s money go missing in transit?)
The questions tended to address issues of “why haven’t I been healed yet.â€Â Bentley had a CD series that proposed various generic reasons why people are healed and not healed and many of his answers referred to things that he has already taught before.
A question about emotional healing led Bentley to suggest that due to the lateness of the hour in many cases “I believe that we are at a place in the body of Christ where we don’t have five years, ten years †to do extended emotional or physical healing as a process and therefore God would start to do more instant healings.
Continuing on the subject at around the 28 minute mark, he brought up his “dark night of the soul†when, reportedly, God brought up memories of when he was abused. He can now remember these alleged incidents without suffering the attached emotions for no apparent reason . (That would be great…but easy to experience if these things had never happened.)
I understand “women’s mood swings,†Bentley said  “I had a bunch.â€
Another question on whether you can induce healings by what you do led Bentley to reminisce about his crusades overseas.
“I had a great worldwide ministry and I ran it right into the ground,†Bentley said. “Boom, I did it.â€
In Africa, he claims, often “everything was all wrong†with the equipment, or the weather, or the music, but he was able to heal anyway. He added that he felt pressure as the famous Western evangelist thinking that his audience was thinking “Come on, magic man.â€
What he would do, he said, is try what he had done before, in the hopes that it would work again. One person would be healed “and then it’s like dominoes†and others would be healed as well.
Bentley promised to pray over prayer requests that were sent to him. “It’s the reason I’m alive†he said. (So much for him coming off the road if that is what is best for him.)
“….take me or leave me–and a lot of you have left me,†Bentley said. “But you are coming back!â€
He counseled that people wanting to be healed stay away from their friends who disagree with you about healing. “Atmosphere has everything to do with healing,†he said “Draw real boundaries up.â€
Something that he says shortly after the 55 minute mark, alluding to his future plans, is very interesting. “I’m going to be going out to Baltimore to meet with the Revival Alliance and get into the anointing,†he said. This is C. Peter Wagner’s group.
Remember at the tail end of the Lakeland revival when Wagner and others came to Lakeland to pray for and predict wonderful things for Todd? Todd and Rick Joyner did. Wagner and his friend would later point out that Bentley, with Joyner looking on approvingly, has entered into a formal relationship with the Revival Alliance, where he came under the leadership of Wagner’s informal group. (Stephen Strader explains this in some detail in his book on Lakeland .)
In a “restoration†video, however, Joyner and Bentley tried to lie and say that nothing formal had happened. (In a post from this spring, shortly after the video appeared, I explained this in some detail. It’s a quite a blatant lie and you can read all about it here.
If there is no formal relationship between Bentley and Wagner’s group, as was argued quite forcefully by Bentley and Joyner, why does Bentley need to go to Baltimore to talk to them?
Another viewer asked when it was appropriate to use violence in prayer as Smith Wigglesworth did and Bentley bragged about doing in Lakeland. (The video is which he knees a cancer victim in the stomach is still the most popular “Todd Bentley†video on YouTube.)
He took a night to tell his favorite stories, which was sampled on YouTube and I have read similar stories in his old books and heard them on his old tapes when he tells them.
“That was over a decade of ministryâ€, he said “I haven’t heard of any instances where anyone was hurt when I prayed in that way.â€
“It is like a Smith Wigglesworth it is like a gift of faith†he said, but he was careful to issue a disclaimer, thanks to his lawyer I think, that you shouldn’t do anything like that yourself unless moved to do so by the Holy Spirit.
“It was a gift of healing, and people have died that I have prayed for,†Bentley said.
Ah!
Bentley knows that people have read the famous World story,  where Warren Cole Smith followed up and found that people who had been “healed†according to the bragging of Todd’s old ministry had died of their maladies a year later. Don’t listen for a second, however, and you will miss that acknowledgement.
You can’t answer all the questions about healing in just over an hour, but Bentley ended with a plug for his “healing bundleâ€â€”books and CDs that would answer your questions.
He promises a webinar on his website on Tuesday November 17, which will address “the anointing†of God. Wanna bet that he will have an “anointing bundle†to see; answering all the questions of that webinar?
“I’m going to be coming back in phases,†Bentley said. “In one sense, there are things that we are doing now, here locally and with Morningstarâ€
But, as he predicts “great things in 2010â€, a guess that he will be back preaching full tilt early in the new year is probably a good one.


When I went to grab a .gif of Strader’s book – The Lakeland Outpouring: The Inside Story – off the Ignited Church site, virus protection shut the computer down real quick.
ar arrr arrr!
What happened to Bentley’s book? The one he was working on with a ‘reporter’?
He seems so desperate…but why so desperate for a big-name ministry? Deep need for attention and acceptance? Trying to earn brownie points with God? Why should he care so much about winning back an adoring audience? Shouldn’t he care more about his standing before the Lord? With these recent videos all I see is a P.R. job with no evidence of wanting to be right with our holy God, of wanting His will. I don’t see any compassion for the lost and hurting, nor even a desire to serve the sheep. It’s still all about Todd. And what’s with the theatrics of having his new “wife” lay on hands and pray for him for the first part of the video – was there no time to pray before turning the camera on?
He could be 125% correct with his dubious spiritual gifts and I still wouldn’t want to go near him spiritually with a 20-foot pole, oven mitts, and extra-long BBQ tongs. Even more now I understand that the roads of false prophets all lead back to Rome.
Lakeland seems to have somewhat of a biblical story to it. I’ll call Lakeland the dragon, with smoke everywhere. The dragon did not want anyone to know who he was, so the dragon amazed everyone by leaving the earth and going into the heavens. But the dragon could only go so far, and was forced back to the earth.
When the dragon was forced back to earth, he changed into a roaring lion, on the prowl, for someone to devour.
Then, the saints were gathered together, and the anitchrist could not see, that the saints of Jesus Christ knew the truth of Lakeland.
All the saints started to look at each other and had the same thought, that this antichrist did not realize the christians knew who he really was. The saints are to still wait for Jesus. The End.
I know it’s just a story. However, it is interesting how one can mingle biblical insight into the Lakeland tradedy.
One word – pathetic.
Rick, You really need to find something to do with your free time.
For the record,
C Peter Wagner has NO formal relationship to the Revival Alliance he has other organizations.. you are mistaken about that piece.
Wagner oversaw the commissioning service but distanced himself later on the technicality that he actually is NOT directly related to the RA. He has an ‘apostolic network’ that he oversees that is another group.
Wagner oversaw the night and the Revival Alliance took Todd into their group. Hopefully that will end, but not likely.
Link to a statement from Revival Alliance, October 2008 in which it is mentioned that it was Peter Wagner’s suggestion that Revival Alliance go to Lakeland to lend support and “commission” Todd Bentley as a “revivalistic evangelist”:
http://harvestrockchurch.org/hrc_flash_news02.php
Link to a statement from Peter Wager, and I had to shake my head cynically in more than one place when I read this:
http://bonya.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/c-peter-wagner-on-todd-bentley/
An earlier statement by Wagner June 2008 concerning the commissioning by R.A. I just can’t believe anyone would actually consider this nonsense to have anything to do with the simplicity of the gospel handed down to us by the real apostles and prophets (except that I used to be taken in by this stuff)!
http://www.glory-of-zion.org/lakelandreport.htm
Revial Alliance’s own website:
http://www.revivalalliance.com
It does appear that Wagner is not officially involved with the Revival Alliance, although he is “friendly” with all the founding members and shares their religious perspective: Heidi Baker, Bill Johnson, John Arnott, Randy Clark, Georgian Banov, Che Ahn. What strikes me particularly is that people of this ilk have created so many “official organizations” and organizations within organizations, and other organizations on the side – what tangled webs these people are weaving for themselves and their followers to become ensnared and spiritually immobilized in! Whatever happened to the simplicity of “Take nothing for the journey….go and make disciples…”?? They’ve traded the stark simplicity and self-sacrifice of the real gospel for the spiritually entertaining glitz and glam of the false.
No wonder the Lord said to “come out of her my people, that you will not partake of her plagues” – it’s not an arbitrary command, but an absolute necessity for ‘survival’ – the deception can only be discerned from outside the camp. It’s like the forest and the trees – it’s impossible to see the forest when you are in the middle of it surrounded by trees. From inside, the counterfeit anointing seems so real and feels so good, it must be God – but it isn’t. Rather than the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, they are being devoured by a clever look-alike, the devil who prowls around “like” a roaring lion.
(the links are not lighting up, so hope they work)
I’m really struck by how many different organizations and organizations within organizations plus more organizations on the side that there are within evangelical Christendom – what tangled webs of deception the church is weaving for itself, and just think, within each organization there are authorities and hierarchies that they must obey….where is Jesus, our meek and humble Saviour who had no place to lay His head and wore sandals, in all this? He simply said that believers were to go and make disciples and to take nothing for the journey – shouldn’t we simply obey Him simply? Real Christianity is personal, not an institutional maze of organizations. They’re substituting the humble simplicity and self-sacrifice of the real gospel for the entertaining glitz and glam of the false.
It’s easy to see now the wisdom of God in calling His people to come out of her so that we will not share in her plagues – the deception can only be seen from outside the camp – like the forest and the trees, it’s pretty nigh impossible to spot the deceptions from inside, the counterfeit anointing seems so real and feels so wonderful it ‘has’ to be God. They are being devoured by the father of lies who prowls around “like” a roaring lion, imitating the true Lion of Judah who roars to gather His children.
…sorry about the repetition – I thought my earlier comment had gotten lost in cyber- space – well praise God, ’cause I thought I said it better the first time!
I stand corrected, thanks.
But it is kind of eery to see Wagner acting like a “Pope” over groups he’s not a member of, isn’t it?
Yes, very eerie, I thought that was interesting group dynamics too, among those who are purportedly not in the same group. ;o)