Comments on: Todd Bentley–To get the “double portion” of Oral Roberts’ spirit? http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/12/21/todd-bentley-double-portion-of-oral-roberts-spirit/ Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:21:17 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Therese http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/12/21/todd-bentley-double-portion-of-oral-roberts-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-112784 Therese Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:08:16 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6776#comment-112784 It's one thing when others speak highly of a person, but when a person starts comparing himself to one of "the greats" and doubly so?! (even before it has happened), it sure does seem like another thing altogether. Not sure if I'm overthinking things or not, but "Hear O Israel, the Lord is One" seems to be a clue that all of God's attributes and gifts exist in the one God, in our one Messiah - when a ministry attracts a lot of attention for only one of those traits, such as healing, is it just me or isn't that somehow missing the person of Jesus as a unified whole? Jesus healed, but He also preached, also prophesied, also loved, also obeyed the Father, also cast out demons, also ate with 'sinners', also taught, also suffered, also walked the walk to Calvary, also sorrowed, also prayed, also rested,....etc. I would think that any crowd of people coming to a meeting would have more than just one need. It must be such a temptation when a ministry becomes "popular" to give the people only what they came to see, instead of the whole Jesus, and to attribute the popularity as a sign of God's approval. Just thinking out loud, but maybe that has something to do with why most of these 'big' ministries go off the rails somewhere along the way even if they seem to start out on the right track. Jesus was popular too because of His miracles, for a little while, and then people began to walk away when He started telling them the things that were hard to accept. Miracles are supposed to be following after the preaching of the gospel, they are not meant to be the star attraction themselves. When it becomes apparent that the gifts of the Spirit are being idolized, I think those ministering would do well to take the opportunity to teach and correct the idolatry in people, help them get free of it, instead of feeding into their problem or worse taking advantage of it to their own gain. We needn't wonder why we don't see more miracles or why these movements/revivals don't last longer - one big reason I'm sure is because our hearts are very prone to being drawn away from Him to the miracles themselves and to those who are supposed to be His mere servants. When the idolatry becomes too much, the Holy Spirit has to withdraw, and I believe a counterfeit spirit then moves into the vacuum. Our God is able to do so much more, but it seems there are not many who are ready to handle it without stumbling, neither shepherds nor sheep. It’s one thing when others speak highly of a person, but when a person starts comparing himself to one of “the greats” and doubly so?! (even before it has happened), it sure does seem like another thing altogether.

Not sure if I’m overthinking things or not, but “Hear O Israel, the Lord is One” seems to be a clue that all of God’s attributes and gifts exist in the one God, in our one Messiah – when a ministry attracts a lot of attention for only one of those traits, such as healing, is it just me or isn’t that somehow missing the person of Jesus as a unified whole? Jesus healed, but He also preached, also prophesied, also loved, also obeyed the Father, also cast out demons, also ate with ‘sinners’, also taught, also suffered, also walked the walk to Calvary, also sorrowed, also prayed, also rested,….etc. I would think that any crowd of people coming to a meeting would have more than just one need.

It must be such a temptation when a ministry becomes “popular” to give the people only what they came to see, instead of the whole Jesus, and to attribute the popularity as a sign of God’s approval. Just thinking out loud, but maybe that has something to do with why most of these ‘big’ ministries go off the rails somewhere along the way even if they seem to start out on the right track. Jesus was popular too because of His miracles, for a little while, and then people began to walk away when He started telling them the things that were hard to accept. Miracles are supposed to be following after the preaching of the gospel, they are not meant to be the star attraction themselves. When it becomes apparent that the gifts of the Spirit are being idolized, I think those ministering would do well to take the opportunity to teach and correct the idolatry in people, help them get free of it, instead of feeding into their problem or worse taking advantage of it to their own gain.

We needn’t wonder why we don’t see more miracles or why these movements/revivals don’t last longer – one big reason I’m sure is because our hearts are very prone to being drawn away from Him to the miracles themselves and to those who are supposed to be His mere servants. When the idolatry becomes too much, the Holy Spirit has to withdraw, and I believe a counterfeit spirit then moves into the vacuum. Our God is able to do so much more, but it seems there are not many who are ready to handle it without stumbling, neither shepherds nor sheep.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/12/21/todd-bentley-double-portion-of-oral-roberts-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-112783 Kevin Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:00:38 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6776#comment-112783 Those that follow after this false teacher will be led one place and it is the same place the blind will end up when they are led by the blind. Run away from this man, if you have any discernment whatsoever! Those that follow after this false teacher will be led one place and it is the same place the blind will end up when they are led by the blind. Run away from this man, if you have any discernment whatsoever!

]]> By: susan http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/12/21/todd-bentley-double-portion-of-oral-roberts-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-112780 susan Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:18:49 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6776#comment-112780 The proud person takes little account of their own weaknesses and don't look for stubbling blocks in life. That person may believe they are above common people or human fralities. With this type thinking they can be taken down a road of many deceptions. A proud person will not realize that pride is the problem. However, everyone around that person will see and know that person has a pride problem. Could it be that some of the things we are seeing around Todd Bentley and his new ministry, are self-gratification, and has blinded them to obvious warnings about pride? Proverbs 16:18 Pride goes before destruction, and haughtiness before a fall. The proud person takes little account of their own weaknesses and don’t look for stubbling blocks in life. That person may believe they are above common people or human fralities. With this type thinking they can be taken down a road of many deceptions. A proud person will not realize that pride is the problem. However, everyone around that person will see and know that person has a pride problem. Could it be that some of the things we are seeing around Todd Bentley and his new ministry, are self-gratification, and has blinded them to obvious warnings about pride?

Proverbs 16:18
Pride goes before destruction, and haughtiness before a fall.

]]> By: dar http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/12/21/todd-bentley-double-portion-of-oral-roberts-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-112777 dar Sat, 26 Dec 2009 01:45:34 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6776#comment-112777 Yicks, has'nt Todd B. done enough damage with his false works not of God but of his own doing? It's quite obvious that he is on his own beaten path trying to do works in his own flesh which is not going to amount to anything. Rest assured anything done in the flesh will amount to nothing only works done in the Spirit will be profitable to God's kingdom. Todd you are still trying to run the show, please believers in Christ do not fall for the false teacher. test all the Spirits God warns we will be accountable for falling for anantichrist type, get back to reading the word of God and you wont be so easily deceaved. God your will be done in Jesus Christ name, Amen! In God I Trust Yicks, has’nt Todd B. done enough damage with his false works not of God but of his own doing? It’s quite obvious that he is on his own beaten path trying to do works in his own flesh which is not going to amount to anything. Rest assured anything done in the flesh will amount to nothing only works done in the Spirit will be profitable to God’s kingdom. Todd you are still trying to run the show, please believers in Christ do not fall for the false teacher. test all the Spirits God warns we will be accountable for falling for anantichrist type, get back to reading the word of God and you wont be so easily deceaved. God your will be done in Jesus Christ name, Amen! In God I Trust

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]]> By: hopesome http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/12/21/todd-bentley-double-portion-of-oral-roberts-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-112755 hopesome Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:20:48 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6776#comment-112755 The webinar told me one thing. WHO TODD BENTLEY IS AND WHO HE IS EXPECTING TO BE. His 'cup runneth over', in every sense of the word, therefore we are going to get 'drunk of the spirit of Mr Bentley' and his double portion 'like it or not' especially as Mr Joyner says 'todd is the chosen one. So its all 'sewn up then', might as well 'all go home'. LORD HAVE MERCY FOR THE ONES WHO ARE SUBJECTED TO a double portion of anything other than you. Lead us not into their temptation and deliver us from who they are into who you really are. Best wishes from one who has had to be gifted speech after witnessing Mr Bentleys abundance of it. The webinar told me one thing. WHO TODD BENTLEY IS AND WHO HE IS EXPECTING TO BE. His ‘cup runneth over’, in every sense of the word, therefore we are going to get ‘drunk of the spirit of Mr Bentley’ and his double portion ‘like it or not’ especially as Mr Joyner says ‘todd is the chosen one. So its all ‘sewn up then’, might as well ‘all go home’.

LORD HAVE MERCY FOR THE ONES WHO ARE SUBJECTED TO a double portion of anything other than you.

Lead us not into their temptation and deliver us from who they are into who you really are.

Best wishes from one who has had to be gifted speech after witnessing Mr Bentleys abundance of it.

]]> By: Greg http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/12/21/todd-bentley-double-portion-of-oral-roberts-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-112753 Greg Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:31:28 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6776#comment-112753 That's beautiful Therese. Well spoken. And true. That’s beautiful Therese. Well spoken. And true.

]]> By: Veronica http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/12/21/todd-bentley-double-portion-of-oral-roberts-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-112751 Veronica Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:39:19 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6776#comment-112751 I agree with you Therese! I agree with you Therese!

]]> By: Therese http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/12/21/todd-bentley-double-portion-of-oral-roberts-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-112750 Therese Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:02:33 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6776#comment-112750 What the world needs is not more great people to take up their calls, truth be told there are no great people - doesn't our Lord know what is in the heart of a man? What is needed is more ordinary folk to take up their crosses and endure to the end - it's the only way for Jesus to be fully formed and manifest in a life. He said, "If I be lifted up I will draw all men unto me." When the Saviour is manifested, lifted up, from an otherwise empty human vessel, a dead tree, who then can resist His wooing? - which is with ressurrection power now - His flesh, which was just as weak as ours and had to be overcome, has been utterly consumed and crucified and He is risen. Oh Lord, grant that we be willing and strengthened to walk after you following in your footsteps all the way to our own personal Golgotha...so that it will no longer be I who live, but Christ who lives in me. He promises that if we lose our life for His sake we will find it, for eternity. What the world needs is not more great people to take up their calls, truth be told there are no great people – doesn’t our Lord know what is in the heart of a man? What is needed is more ordinary folk to take up their crosses and endure to the end – it’s the only way for Jesus to be fully formed and manifest in a life. He said, “If I be lifted up I will draw all men unto me.” When the Saviour is manifested, lifted up, from an otherwise empty human vessel, a dead tree, who then can resist His wooing? – which is with ressurrection power now – His flesh, which was just as weak as ours and had to be overcome, has been utterly consumed and crucified and He is risen. Oh Lord, grant that we be willing and strengthened to walk after you following in your footsteps all the way to our own personal Golgotha…so that it will no longer be I who live, but Christ who lives in me. He promises that if we lose our life for His sake we will find it, for eternity.

]]> By: Thomas Hunter http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2009/12/21/todd-bentley-double-portion-of-oral-roberts-spirit/comment-page-1/#comment-112748 Thomas Hunter Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:54:10 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=6776#comment-112748 Appreciate the post. Mr. Bentley makes me a bit nervous on many levels. But what stood out is this: in two paragraphs in this post that quote Todd, he refers to himself 19 times. I assume that we preach a Christ centered message. Appreciate the post. Mr. Bentley makes me a bit nervous on many levels. But what stood out is this: in two paragraphs in this post that quote Todd, he refers to himself 19 times. I assume that we preach a Christ centered message.

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