By Rick Hiebert. All Rights Reserved. Used By Permission.
The most scary thing that comes out of Todd Bentley’s Dec. 18th, 2009 service, however, is that Jessa Bentley, Todd’s new wife who is evidently learning quickly, apparently has the ability to call dead people into her dreams?
A big hat-tip to blogger P.J. Miller, who spotted this first and might even be more flummoxed than I am at the Bentleys’ effrontery.Â
At 101:37 of the Dec. 18th service, as saved on Todd Bentley’s website, Jessa Bentley comes up to share for a moment. It would seem that she might have a prophetic gifting, as Jessa emphasized in her remarks that ”Lakeland was just an introduction” of what God is hoping to do. (Cue ominious music again.)
Jessa began by saying:
“So, a couple of nights ago I had a dream where Oral Roberts was speaking to Todd–I didn’t understand what they were saying but I remember they were talking and then he stopped and he looked over to me and he ran over to me  and he [Oral Roberts] stopped and he put his hands over my eyes and he said what do you see? And so I looked and I didn’t see anything at first then I saw this elephant racing across my eye and Oral Roberts, he said, he put his hand over my eyes and said what do you see and…I said I didn’t see anything at first and then all of a sudden I saw this elephant racing across my eyes and it was dancing, it was going crazy, it was just, it had this big smile, but it was just going crazy and I said, “It’s a wild elephant, I see a wild elephant.ÂAnd then I said ‘What’s with the elephant and he said, “Exactly, what is it with the elephant?” And I looked again and in that vision what was highlighted was the trunk of the elephant and I said “The elephant nose (knows) and he said “yes” And I said it’s discernment and he said “exactly.” And then he says,” Do you see the lion?” and I closed my eyes again and then I saw the lion and the lion was just a golden lion and I woke up.ÂAnd when I woke up…”
She continues to interpret her dream. At the 104 minute mark, she starts to emulate the prophetess Stacey Campbell, with stammering and wil shaking of her head. “Lakeland was just an introduction. Just a table of contents for what is to come.”
“It’s gonna be wild, wild, it’s gonna be much greater than it was before. Much greater…”
Todd takes the mike. “You know, when God spoke to her in that dream,” he said. “That was the night that Oral Roberts passed (away). And Jessa said to God ‘So many of our friends got to go out to California in the last few months [to be prayed for by Roberts]….’”
(Bentley parenthetically explains that Roberts was praying for people to receive his healing gifts and re-enact the healing revival of the 1950s. As I noted in an earlier post, however, while Roberts never renounced his healing ministry, he came to see it as well-intentioned and perhaps flawed. Healing came to be part of all the work he chose to do–not an emphasis–as shown by Oral Roberts University trying to have a medical school as part of their work. A more nuanced description, however, would interfere with Bentley psyching up his audience.)
So, Bentley continues, his wife was mentioning to God that she and Todd hadn’t had an opportunity to be prayed for by Roberts. “And Jessa said, ‘Lord you called my husband, you called Todd to be a healing evaglist, a revivalist. How come we never got to go out to California to receive this impartation?’ And I didn’t know that she was crying out ‘Lord I really want this and now he’s gone [died] And she had a dream. And Oral Roberts showed up in the dream and laid hands on her. And what she didn’t tell you is that she felt it go through her body and she got it!”
So what Todd is explaining is that his wife received an “it” in a dream from someone who she thought was Oral Roberts who had just died!
This is necromancy. The Bible tells believers not to seek to contact the dead. The only time that the Bible reports someone being forcibly brought back from the dead–the prophet Samuel and the Witch of Endor, horrible things happened as a result.
Why is Jessa comfortable recieving a blessing froma dead man when the Bible says not to seek one?
Why is Todd Bentley passing the pulpit over to someone who seems to have no problem with an experience that the Bible forbids?
This might be an explanation why Shonnah was kicked to the curb. Perhaps Bentley’s first wife was uncomfortable doing shady things in the pulpit. Can we wonder if wife number two, aside from being younger and prettier, will wade in with whatever is needed, even extatic prophect or seeing the dead–to put her husband over the top?
The new age is very popular amongst the young? Do we want young Chsritians or new converts to be influenced to dabble with seeking contact from the dead, because Jessa Bentley had this dream?
Was any of this compared to what the Bible teaches? Bentley has, reportedly, spent months in the Bible. You kave to know that he knows the Bible verses warning against this…but he continues blithely on, not even saying “I know that the Bible cautions against this, but…” while the lambs nibble the poisonous plants.
Even if Jessa is wise (and I certainly doubt she is) is tempting others to seek after an iffy experience wise.
And where is Rick Joyner, the wise mentoring hand in all this?
I mean, I would love to see my friends and heroes from heaven. But I think of them! On the night that Oral Roberts is finally with his wife, dead son, and Jesus, why call him down from heaven to talk to Todd Bentley and pray for Jessa Bentley? It would be a mean thing to do to Oral, wouldn’t it? (*Imagine Oral visiting with his wife in heaven. His pager goes off. Oral: “Jessa Bentley wants me to pray for her again?” 
)
)I think that Patricia King, Todd Bentley’s old friend, might have a very interesting point of view on all this. A few years ago, she released a teaching on CD, the “Great Cloud of Witnesses”–if memory serves. (It’s at home and not at hand as I write.)
On the CD, King talks briefly in passing, about the time that she believes that she met the spirit of Aimee Semple McPherson on a plane.
In subsequent months, there was a bit of a controversy, as concerned Christians were worried that King was dabbling in necromancy. On reflection, she then wrote on her webiste that whatever she might have seen, it was unwise for her–as it was a stumbling block to others–to have shared this. So, she pulled the CD and you can no longer get it from her store or download the teaching from her website.
I wonder what Patricia King would say to her old friend and his new wife about this.Â
I don’t want to know what Aimee or Oral for that matter would say, in a dream or otherwise, thanks. Neither should the Bentleys, for that matter.
I guess the breaking point is “WHEN” he should have pulled out of ministry .
I believe He started out with a pure heart but the revival treadmill wore him out body soul and spirit, especially after the depression he went through (dark night of the soul),
I would love to see more accountability in my own life as well. And he has taken that step , wether you believe these are men of God over him or not , I believe they are still doing their best with the ability God gives them.
As for Andrew Strom and his kundilini spirit revelation , I have to question his motives for studying the occult , VERY Dangerous , But I’ll give him the benefit of the dought , That he wanted to help the body of Christ with discernment , But my method would be Christ himself not the devil.
Do I Believe Todd has the kundilini spirit , absolutely not , the devil would never bring people to repentance and confess Jesus as their Savior.
I just see a beat up brother by the church and the devil , but God in is in our midst, and gives his Grace to the humble.
And if Todd is humble God will recieve all the glory after he exaults him to glorify Jesus. (my opinion)
still love me?
KUNDALINI WARNING – Urgent
-by Andrew Strom.
This is going too far , He has links to the occult and expects me to watch it! ,WHY would I open myself up to demons for discernment!
sorry I’m not giving the website url to the public.
I’m sure you already read his little teaching on it, I”m not into this at all,
Would you go to a PSYCHIC for discernment?, REPENT , AND RENOUNCE ALL IMPARTATION! from those videos if you really desire true Holiness.
His article about falling down! I have no problem with , but I will not finish reading his teaching nor will I watch the videos. or renounce any one of my brothers and sisters on his list.
I’m not angry I’m in tears right now! God knows.
There is only one exit ramp off life’s highway to heaven. A tree is know by it’s fruit.
Mathew 7:13-15
“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.”
It’s not hard to be a christian, it’s that there is just only one way to heaven. As far as prophets go, does Todd Bentley say the truth or does he say what people want to hear? Concerning the lies and cover ups I observed since Lakeland, can he discern truth in his own heart? (I think that one I want Jesus to handle.)
Look at the problem of Ananias and Sapphira in the early church. The couple were dishonest. The offense was a lie to God. I think even today we as christian’s need to test the truth. After all it takes all kinds to make the world go around.
I’m done ,
I’m deleting the bookmark after this message , (why?)
I sat staring at the tiles on my floor . In between the tiles formed a cross, Silly me, I gazed at the cross on the floor with tears dripping off my face to the floor as I remembered Jesus’s prayer while He stood in the gap , 5 times praying about us being one in John 17.
This was after I broke down in tears with my head on my folded arms in front of my computer begging Jesus for mercy and help. I nearly completed reading my emails from pastor Andrew when I realized ->
This is beyond Todd and Andrew , Behind the curtain is Ephesians 6, The wisdom of God is different from man , I choose His way
my last words…………..
WHO WILL STAND IN THE GAP?
this is the Will of God.
Hello WoG,
My intention for sharing the link was to show the testimonies of people who had been to the Lakeland event and suffered, not so much to look into Andrew Strom’s analysis and his sources.
Regarding the people on Strom’s list, I know for a fact that several of them were caught with their pants down in false prophesy at Bentley’s “apostolic alignment†ceremony. I don’t know much about Strom, but I do know that his warning about these ministries is worth heeding. If you don’t want to believe him then note their collective violations of God’s commands in the scriptures.
WoG – course we still love you! Having different viewpoints about some things is hardly enough to extinguish love! One doesn’t have to have anything to do with the other.
No one is suggesting that anyone stop loving Todd B with the love of Christ, or that we stop interceding for him, just that we hope people will realize certain things about his ministry that we strongly feel are dangerous. But I’m very sorry this is so distressing to you, and I’m afraid maybe I’ve been pushing my point too far…I apologize and hope you will forgive me! I think you’re right to give it a rest…..please accept a big cyber-hug from me, your big sister. The Lord bless and keep you…
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Hi again,
Sorry if I preached too hard Sean , but Joseph was aggressive with his brothers too , and even wept over them in secret because he loved them.
There was so much misunderstanding over Joseph and his brothers.
But God had a purpose. And they were re united in the end, Praise God.
PS: This is a re post , the word muncher struck again.
So Tatted Todd & Co claims to have been given Oral’s mantle by the deceased Oral in a dream?
What is this except a Celebrity Endorsement where said Celebrity is conveniently dead and unable to embarrass the Official Story? With a Pentecostal Woo-Woo coat of paint?
“He has trouble reading and writing, but he’s street smart. He has a hyper-rich fantasy life which can be somewhat attributed to drugs and abuse.” — Bene Diction
“He had a Gift, the Gift of telling stories; which he perverted into deceiving people with false fact instead of true fiction.”
– G.K.Chesterton, “The Dagger With Wings” (Father Brown Mystery)
Todd Bentley, Oral Roberts, and an elephant walked into a bar….
Did Todd Bentley not learn anything in bible collage under Rick Joyner.
Thanks Doug for letting us know. Have not seen the new lot don;t want to either.
>I believe He started out with a pure heart but the revival treadmill wore him out body soul and spirit, especially after the depression he went through (dark night of the soul),
Interestingly enough, in the time period before Lakeland (same time he got most of his tattoos) when Bentley went through his “dark night of the soul” he had been having an affair.
When he got “wore out” at the Lakeland “revival treadmill” and once again went through his “dark nights” – he was cheating on his wife. Yes, that was Jessa with her adoring eyes standing next to him at the July 4 baptismal service. Sheeka-Boomba!
In otherwords, “Dark night of the Soul” is Bentley-speak for I’m having an affair and the holy ghost is convicting me.
Do not be fooled- it never has been about ministry burnout, it has everything to do with the stress of trying to minister while at the same time living in blatent sin. That would burn anybody out, would it not?
If Bently cannot figure this out, the final burn-out could be a hot one.
There is no such thing biblically as a “dark night of the soul” marking a phase in the believer’s spiritual journey. However, there are lots of reasons for depressions, funks, discouragements and feeling just plain awful – our fallen nature reacting to being “crucified†is one, thus “blessed are you who mourn†– but committing sin can never be justified as being part of the process of sanctification. Episodes such as what we’ve seen with Todd, look like a sign of someone who is deeply conflicted about the life he is leading as a believer and minister, his true self bubbling to the surface every once in a while – if so, it’s very harmful to Todd for his “handlers” to continue USING him the way they are and encouraging him to USE himself in ministry, when what HE needs is to not be USED. Jesus doesn’t NEED Todd Bentley, but Todd needs Jesus, deep calling to deep, the true inner self.
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