Comments on: “The day [Todd's ministry]…died”? http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/09/the-day-todds-ministry-died/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:23:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: “Todd [Bentley] has committed adultery”–John Paul Jackson at Bene Diction Blogs On http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/09/the-day-todds-ministry-died/comment-page-1/#comment-113770 “Todd [Bentley] has committed adultery”–John Paul Jackson at Bene Diction Blogs On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:07:00 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7134#comment-113770 [...] of Rick Joyner’s latest statement about the restoration of Todd Bentley. (You may remember that I reported on it last week, not just once, but [...] [...] of Rick Joyner’s latest statement about the restoration of Todd Bentley. (You may remember that I reported on it last week, not just once, but [...]

]]> By: Headless Unicorn Guy http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/09/the-day-todds-ministry-died/comment-page-1/#comment-113734 Headless Unicorn Guy Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:09:02 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7134#comment-113734 Bye, bye, Crazy Preacher Guy, Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry... Bye, bye, Crazy Preacher Guy,
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry…

]]> By: Joyce http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/09/the-day-todds-ministry-died/comment-page-1/#comment-113724 Joyce Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:37:48 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7134#comment-113724 As to the ministry being local, Rick Joyner knows full well that it's not. At the beginning of the second video we posted you can clearly hear the announcer say, "We've got folks from all around the world watching right now through Fresh Fire USA and Morningstar TV" and "we've got more than 140 countries tuning in tonight." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX4W2tVPjKg&feature=sub As to the ministry being local, Rick Joyner knows full well that it’s not. At the beginning of the second video we posted you can clearly hear the announcer say, “We’ve got folks from all around the world watching right now through Fresh Fire USA and Morningstar TV” and “we’ve got more than 140 countries tuning in tonight.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX4W2tVPjKg&feature=sub

]]> By: Articles of Interest 02-13-10 | Onward, Forward, Toward... http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/09/the-day-todds-ministry-died/comment-page-1/#comment-113678 Articles of Interest 02-13-10 | Onward, Forward, Toward... Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:19:57 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7134#comment-113678 [...] Diction Blogs On – Did Todd Bentley have police shut up his critics? (Part 3) along with “The day [Todd's ministry]…died”? and How “persecution” may play into Todd Bentley’s hands – Great set of articles by [...] [...] Diction Blogs On – Did Todd Bentley have police shut up his critics? (Part 3) along with “The day [Todd's ministry]…died”? and How “persecution” may play into Todd Bentley’s hands – Great set of articles by [...]

]]> By: Hopesome http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/09/the-day-todds-ministry-died/comment-page-1/#comment-113642 Hopesome Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:53:24 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7134#comment-113642 Mr Joyner is also the Orchestrator and the Orchestra. Gift the Prophecy and then 'walk right in and claim it'. Under these so called leaders the church is being led into another HOLY WAR. they are tapping into peoples resentment and giving them a place to 'action it'. Why: These men have brought 'christianity' to a place of 'man power' NOT JESUS POWER. Mr Joyner is also the Orchestrator and the Orchestra.

Gift the Prophecy and then ‘walk right in and claim it’.

Under these so called leaders the church is being led into another HOLY WAR.

they are tapping into peoples resentment and giving them a place to ‘action it’.

Why: These men have brought ‘christianity’ to a place of ‘man power’

NOT JESUS POWER.

]]> By: Georgie http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/09/the-day-todds-ministry-died/comment-page-1/#comment-113638 Georgie Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:13:30 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7134#comment-113638 Yes Rick, you are absolutely correct. Broadcasting meetings on Internet TV is a completely different form of communication than a simple 'local' meeting. There is nothing local about the Internet and Joyner knows this. Interestingly, MorningStar set up their new IPTV channel, just in time for this 'new thing'. Coincidence? Poor Todd. Of course Rick is going to let him minister again. Why? Rick said it himself in one of the 'restoration updates' (another example of Joyner's spin doctoring) that "it's all he's ever known". Well, maybe he could get a job like the rest of us. But, if you read his books (it's a bit torturous, sort of like water-boarding I imagine) you will see that he never really did appear to have a regular job. Todd preferred to spend eight hours a day praying... Rick Joyner is a very smooth operator. From a theoretical perspective what Rick does is known as propaganda. And he's very, very good at it. Impressively so. He is a master manipulator of the word. Yes Rick, you are absolutely correct. Broadcasting meetings on Internet TV is a completely different form of communication than a simple ‘local’ meeting. There is nothing local about the Internet and Joyner knows this.

Interestingly, MorningStar set up their new IPTV channel, just in time for this ‘new thing’. Coincidence?

Poor Todd. Of course Rick is going to let him minister again. Why? Rick said it himself in one of the ‘restoration updates’ (another example of Joyner’s spin doctoring) that “it’s all he’s ever known”. Well, maybe he could get a job like the rest of us. But, if you read his books (it’s a bit torturous, sort of like water-boarding I imagine) you will see that he never really did appear to have a regular job. Todd preferred to spend eight hours a day praying…

Rick Joyner is a very smooth operator. From a theoretical perspective what Rick does is known as propaganda. And he’s very, very good at it. Impressively so. He is a master manipulator of the word.

]]> By: Video of Bentley protesters – February 5/10 at Bene Diction Blogs On http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/09/the-day-todds-ministry-died/comment-page-1/#comment-113625 Video of Bentley protesters – February 5/10 at Bene Diction Blogs On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:07:30 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7134#comment-113625 [...] « “The day [Todd's ministry]…died”? [...] [...] « “The day [Todd's ministry]…died”? [...]

]]> By: Susan http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/09/the-day-todds-ministry-died/comment-page-1/#comment-113619 Susan Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:13:00 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7134#comment-113619 Isaiah 3:10,11 "Tell the godly that all will be well for them. They will enjoy the rich reward they have earned! But the wicked are doomed, for they will get exactly what they deserve." Isaiah was speaking of the judgement against Judah. My point is, that in the mist of the gloom of this message, God gives hope. It can be difficult and disheartening to see the wicked as if they prosper. However, God see's the struggles of those who strive to obey His plan. Hold on to God's truth and take heart! God's justice will prevail in the end. He will reward those who have truly been faithful. The leaders of a congregation are responsible to help the people. But how can they help when they are unjust? At the time of this prophecy, the children of God were intermixing with those who worshiped idols and such. Even giving jewish names to the pagans. The true prophets in biblical times were murdered for the pure word. Are we to expect any less? I appreciated the video. It looked to me as if Todd was buying some time, and got caught off guard. Isaiah 3:10,11

“Tell the godly that all will be well for them. They will enjoy the rich reward they have earned! But the wicked are doomed, for they will get exactly what they deserve.” Isaiah was speaking of the judgement against Judah.

My point is, that in the mist of the gloom of this message, God gives hope. It can be difficult and disheartening to see the wicked as if they prosper. However, God see’s the struggles of those who strive to obey His plan. Hold on to God’s truth and take heart! God’s justice will prevail in the end. He will reward those who have truly been faithful.

The leaders of a congregation are responsible to help the people. But how can they help when they are unjust? At the time of this prophecy, the children of God were intermixing with those who worshiped idols and such. Even giving jewish names to the pagans.

The true prophets in biblical times were murdered for the pure word. Are we to expect any less? I appreciated the video. It looked to me as if Todd was buying some time, and got caught off guard.

]]> By: Therese http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/09/the-day-todds-ministry-died/comment-page-1/#comment-113614 Therese Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:54:03 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7134#comment-113614 ....just some further thoughts about "restoration" - the thing is, only God can really discipline or restore a soul, when it is needed - hence the reason a fallen believer is handed "over to Satan , so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved.." (1 Cor. 5:5) - sounds horrible, but it just means to temporarily withdraw fellowship - and church support - and allow the Lord to discipline that one THROUGH THE TRIALS OF REAL LIFE, until such time as the fruits of repentance and true restoration to God are self-evident, (not just claimed). This is where I think Morningstar is getting between Todd and his Heavenly Father. I have a hunch Joyner's program of restoration consists of something that resembles 100 'Hail Mary's and 50 'Our Father's on bared knees on a rough stone floor, thrice a day, with set periods of fasting, protracted bible reading on a bed of nails, and other forms of self-flagellation, (but who knows what hoops he is making Todd jump through, it seems to be a state secret) whereas the Lord's discipline consists of real life experiences as opposed to artificial, self-imposed, man-made programs. Of course in real life that can take a long time, but in the shelter of a fantasy-land theme park, mmm, maybe only a year and a half..... "Therefore since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin. As a result he does not live the rest of his life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God.." 1 Peter 4:1-2 ….just some further thoughts about “restoration” – the thing is, only God can really discipline or restore a soul, when it is needed – hence the reason a fallen believer is handed “over to Satan , so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved..” (1 Cor. 5:5) – sounds horrible, but it just means to temporarily withdraw fellowship – and church support – and allow the Lord to discipline that one THROUGH THE TRIALS OF REAL LIFE, until such time as the fruits of repentance and true restoration to God are self-evident, (not just claimed). This is where I think Morningstar is getting between Todd and his Heavenly Father. I have a hunch Joyner’s program of restoration consists of something that resembles 100 ‘Hail Mary’s and 50 ‘Our Father’s on bared knees on a rough stone floor, thrice a day, with set periods of fasting, protracted bible reading on a bed of nails, and other forms of self-flagellation, (but who knows what hoops he is making Todd jump through, it seems to be a state secret) whereas the Lord’s discipline consists of real life experiences as opposed to artificial, self-imposed, man-made programs. Of course in real life that can take a long time, but in the shelter of a fantasy-land theme park, mmm, maybe only a year and a half…..

“Therefore since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin. As a result he does not live the rest of his life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God..” 1 Peter 4:1-2

]]> By: jake http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/09/the-day-todds-ministry-died/comment-page-1/#comment-113612 jake Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:54:10 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7134#comment-113612 About the only thing that might 'restore' Bentley is a good psychiatrist. It only takes one psychiatrist to change the lightbulb. But the lightbulb has to really want to change. Sorry - old joke. Bottom line - Bentley is a serious threat to others. He has found himself a corner of the world where he is welcomed and has nested in a culture that accepts his behaviour. "This is just previews of coming attractions?" Smoke and mirrors and a cast of misguided characters. Revival starts with repentance. Restoration is an action verb. About the only thing that might ‘restore’ Bentley is a good psychiatrist.

It only takes one psychiatrist to change the lightbulb. But the lightbulb has to really want to change.

Sorry – old joke.

Bottom line – Bentley is a serious threat to others. He has found himself a corner of the world where he is welcomed and has nested in a culture that accepts his behaviour. “This is just previews of coming attractions?” Smoke and mirrors and a cast of misguided characters.

Revival starts with repentance. Restoration is an action verb.

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