Comments on: How “persecution” may play into Todd Bentley’s hands

By: “Todd [Bentley] has committed adultery”–John Paul Jackson at Bene Diction Blogs On

Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:08:06 +0000

[...] This morning The Elijah List sent out the text of Rick Joyner’s latest statement about the restoration of Todd Bentley. (You may remember that I reported on it last week, not just once, but twice. [...]

By: Sean

Sean — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:43:06 +0000

Looking at the video, the crowd did not appear to be that big. There seemed to be quite a few empty seats.

I’ve been reading that Joyner may be getting frustrated over the fact that this “revival” isn’t expanding as fast as he hoped.

Although they may not have orchestrated this confrontation, they appear to be trying to use it in a desperate attempt to attract attention. So far they seem to be mainly attracting people who were already their fans.

I think that their dreams of Bentley starting a new significant movement are doomed to fail since Bentley’s healing gift has been debunked. They’ve got nothing left to use to bait the public.

By: Hopesome

Hopesome — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:54:34 +0000

In the old testament we hear of many ‘Prophets of Doom’.

Thats why JESUS CAME WITH THE NEW TESTAMENT

I have no re-call of Mr Joyners blues or greys being in Acts.

LETS HOPE THEY DON’T MAKE IT THERE.

He’s a Warmonger of a Prophet – Jesus ‘take the spirit that wars’.

By: Eli

Eli — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:53:00 +0000

“”Rick Joyner is setting up for the future, planting the idea in the mind of Bentleyâ€™s friends that criticism is automatically a sign of Godâ€™s endorsement and favour.”"

You hit the nail on the head with that one.

Belinda – My thoughts exactly. This is becoming more and more like a cult by the day.

Stay away from the Koolaide at Morning Star.

By: Bill Fawcett

Bill Fawcett — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:22:46 +0000

I’m sure Joyner sees this as the precursor to fulfillment of his prophecy:

“Like the American Civil War, the coming spiritual civil war will also be between the Blue and the Gray. In dreams and visions blue often represents heavenly mindedness (i.e., the sky is blue), and gray speaks of those who live by the power of their own minds (i.e., the brain is often called â€œgray matterâ€). This will be a conflict between those who may be genuine Christians, but who live mostly according to their natural minds and human wisdom, and those who follow the Holy Spirit.”

Bob Jones elaborates:

“But out of the sands of time I have preserved the best of all bloodlines of all the families of the earth for this hour. And this is the generation that will begin the leadership of the Endtime Army.â€™â€

But before the best of all these bloodlines would emerge victorious in a great Endtime Restoration under the new apostles, the body of Christ would be bloody by a massive civil war – the blues against the greys. “

By: Belinda Burston

Belinda Burston — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:32:18 +0000

Isn’t this the lie that cults propogate? The “us against them” mentality that is so very dangerous but useful to those who wish to rationalize opposition.

By: Therese

Therese — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:22:33 +0000

It’s such a mockery, not to mention cowardly, to equate criticism with persecution – persecution would be more along the lines of, say, setting the police on Christians for speaking the truth in public.