Comments on: Peter Youngren – running out of grace? http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/12/peter-youngren-running-out-of-grace/ Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:31:56 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Peter Youngren – Grace TV running out of money? at Bene Diction Blogs On http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/12/peter-youngren-running-out-of-grace/comment-page-4/#comment-118601 Peter Youngren – Grace TV running out of money? at Bene Diction Blogs On Wed, 26 May 2010 10:29:53 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7159#comment-118601 [...] Peter Youngren – Running out of Grace? Christian Week looks at the world of Peter Youngren Peter Youngren under investigation by Finnish Police – falling further from grace EKM continuing legal proceedings against Peter Youngren Published 0 minutes ago 0 comments // Used for showing and hiding user information in the comment form function ShowUtils() { document.getElementById("authorinfo").style.display = ""; document.getElementById("showinfo").style.display = "none"; document.getElementById("hideinfo").style.display = ""; } function HideUtils() { document.getElementById("authorinfo").style.display = "none"; document.getElementById("showinfo").style.display = ""; document.getElementById("hideinfo").style.display = "none"; } [...] [...] Peter Youngren – Running out of Grace? Christian Week looks at the world of Peter Youngren Peter Youngren under investigation by Finnish Police – falling further from grace EKM continuing legal proceedings against Peter Youngren Published 0 minutes ago 0 comments // Used for showing and hiding user information in the comment form function ShowUtils() { document.getElementById("authorinfo").style.display = ""; document.getElementById("showinfo").style.display = "none"; document.getElementById("hideinfo").style.display = ""; } function HideUtils() { document.getElementById("authorinfo").style.display = "none"; document.getElementById("showinfo").style.display = ""; document.getElementById("hideinfo").style.display = "none"; } [...]

]]> By: EKM continuing legal proceedings against Peter Youngren at Bene Diction Blogs On http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/12/peter-youngren-running-out-of-grace/comment-page-4/#comment-116587 EKM continuing legal proceedings against Peter Youngren at Bene Diction Blogs On Sun, 02 May 2010 01:18:15 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7159#comment-116587 [...] credentials began to surface. OBFF made it public that they dumped him in 2007 after this post Peter Youngren – running out of grace? in February [...] [...] credentials began to surface. OBFF made it public that they dumped him in 2007 after this post Peter Youngren – running out of grace? in February [...]

]]> By: Peter Youngren under investigation by Finnish Police – falling from grac at Bene Diction Blogs On http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/12/peter-youngren-running-out-of-grace/comment-page-4/#comment-116209 Peter Youngren under investigation by Finnish Police – falling from grac at Bene Diction Blogs On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:03:14 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7159#comment-116209 [...] give Youngren his licence to operate as a minister (Open Bible Fellowship) came to BDBO after the first post on Peter Youngren post which raised questions about the Grace TV purchase his ministerial [...] [...] give Youngren his licence to operate as a minister (Open Bible Fellowship) came to BDBO after the first post on Peter Youngren post which raised questions about the Grace TV purchase his ministerial [...]

]]> By: Bene Diction http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/12/peter-youngren-running-out-of-grace/comment-page-4/#comment-115831 Bene Diction Fri, 16 Apr 2010 03:47:24 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7159#comment-115831 <em>Comments are closed. - BD</em> The discussion can be continued <a href="http://tiny.cc/247iy" rel="nofollow">here.</a> Comments are closed. – BD

The discussion can be continued here.

]]> By: Bene D http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/12/peter-youngren-running-out-of-grace/comment-page-4/#comment-115828 Bene D Fri, 16 Apr 2010 03:22:28 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7159#comment-115828 Peter Youngren was willing to answer Christian Week's questions and I commend him for that. Mine went unanswered, and that's fair and World Impact Ministries and Grace TV's choice. This is Mr. Youngren's response to Christian Week at CW. ChristianWeek reporter Josiah Neufeld was fair in his questions, and quoted me accurately in the recent article “Peter Youngren making waves.” While I may disagree with some of the other people quoted, that is not my purpose for writing. I am deeply sorry for my own failures, and for disappointment that I have caused others. I have not hidden or displayed my moral failure eight years ago, but I have sought to lean on Jesus for His grace, correction and guidance. I am grateful for counsel that I have received from respected ministers. As far as my marriage, described by ChristianWeek as “rocky”, I believe it best, at this time, to not publicly discuss matters that pertain to my family. One important matter, my attitude towards ministry, was not reflected in the article. It is a privilege to preach the gospel, and I am well aware that there will be those who consider me disqualified from ministry. Based on my denominational background, I would agree with those sentiments. My failure will cause well-intentioned and sincere Christians to write me off. I do not wish to defend myself against those who hold such views, or to question their motives. The reason I continue to preach the Good News is because I believe God has called me. Eight years ago, I was willing to step down, and I remain willing. It is not difficult to see how the Lord could use the current negative information to cause people to turn against me, should this be His will. I am a believer and follower of Jesus Christ, not for any ministry, but because of the love and grace I have received from the Lord. In the current “Grace Canada 2010 tour” mentioned in the ChristianWeek article, which still has four cities to go [at the time of this letter], we are close to seeing 1,000 Canadians respond to the invitation to receive Christ. God is blessing Grace TV, which now reaches 50 per cent of Canadian households. Our Gospel Festivals, especially in Muslim nations, have been significant. Do these “results” justify my failures, or my continuation in ministry? Absolutely not! Spiritual results are not due to anything great in any person, but only because of the goodness of Jesus Christ. Neither do these “results” disqualify me, as I am encouraged from Scripture and church history that God has used flawed individuals, at times people, who no one expected. The past eight years have been a spiritual journey to discover more of the cross and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It seems when non-believers or believers hear this message their hearts are attracted towards Christ, just as my heart has been drawn closer to Him. Peter Youngren St. Catharines, ON I'm closing off this comment thread, not because the discussion and input isn't important, but because over 190 comments becomes unmanagable. If you'd like to comment, go here. http://tiny.cc/247iy There are some more issues regarding Grace TV and Peter Youngren I'd like to get to in another post soon... Peter Youngren was willing to answer Christian Week’s questions and I commend him for that. Mine went unanswered, and that’s fair and World Impact Ministries and Grace TV’s choice.

This is Mr. Youngren’s response to Christian Week at CW.

ChristianWeek reporter Josiah Neufeld was fair in his questions, and quoted me accurately in the recent article “Peter Youngren making waves.” While I may disagree with some of the other people quoted, that is not my purpose for writing.

I am deeply sorry for my own failures, and for disappointment that I have caused others. I have not hidden or displayed my moral failure eight years ago, but I have sought to lean on Jesus for His grace, correction and guidance. I am grateful for counsel that I have received from respected ministers. As far as my marriage, described by ChristianWeek as “rocky”, I believe it best, at this time, to not publicly discuss matters that pertain to my family.

One important matter, my attitude towards ministry, was not reflected in the article. It is a privilege to preach the gospel, and I am well aware that there will be those who consider me disqualified from ministry. Based on my denominational background, I would agree with those sentiments. My failure will cause well-intentioned and sincere Christians to write me off. I do not wish to defend myself against those who hold such views, or to question their motives.

The reason I continue to preach the Good News is because I believe God has called me. Eight years ago, I was willing to step down, and I remain willing. It is not difficult to see how the Lord could use the current negative information to cause people to turn against me, should this be His will. I am a believer and follower of Jesus Christ, not for any ministry, but because of the love and grace I have received from the Lord.

In the current “Grace Canada 2010 tour” mentioned in the ChristianWeek article, which still has four cities to go [at the time of this letter], we are close to seeing 1,000 Canadians respond to the invitation to receive Christ. God is blessing Grace TV, which now reaches 50 per cent of Canadian households. Our Gospel Festivals, especially in Muslim nations, have been significant.

Do these “results” justify my failures, or my continuation in ministry? Absolutely not! Spiritual results are not due to anything great in any person, but only because of the goodness of Jesus Christ. Neither do these “results” disqualify me, as I am encouraged from Scripture and church history that God has used flawed individuals, at times people, who no one expected. The past eight years have been a spiritual journey to discover more of the cross and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It seems when non-believers or believers hear this message their hearts are attracted towards Christ, just as my heart has been drawn closer to Him.

Peter Youngren
St. Catharines, ON

I’m closing off this comment thread, not because the discussion and input isn’t important, but because over 190 comments becomes unmanagable.

If you’d like to comment, go here.

http://tiny.cc/247iy

There are some more issues regarding Grace TV and Peter Youngren I’d like to get to in another post soon…

]]> By: Bene D http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/12/peter-youngren-running-out-of-grace/comment-page-4/#comment-115827 Bene D Fri, 16 Apr 2010 03:06:39 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7159#comment-115827 Hi emennon: You might want to get up to speed, head over to Christian Week, they have an article up. http://christianweek.org/stories.php?id=911 Hi emennon:

You might want to get up to speed, head over to Christian Week, they have an article up.
http://christianweek.org/stories.php?id=911

]]> By: emennon http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/12/peter-youngren-running-out-of-grace/comment-page-4/#comment-115823 emennon Fri, 16 Apr 2010 02:17:48 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7159#comment-115823 In the above post we read: "He has destroyed many families including his own and still will admit nothing". Yet in post number 191 we have a link to an article quoting Peter as fully admitting to a moral failure eight years ago. So stating that he will "admit nothing" is actually incorrect. Truth is the often first casuality on the internet. Above we read "I understand that many hear the gospel through PY’s crusades and thank God they do", but in post 189 the same individual pummels him. Peter may have brought the gospel to thousands, and based on post 189 you may regard him as the very "least" of Christ's servants, but remember, "even though you have done it to the least of these My servants, you have done it unto Me". Tread carefully as you cast your whole bag of stones. In the above post we read: “He has destroyed many families including his own and still will admit nothing”. Yet in post number 191 we have a link to an article quoting Peter as fully admitting to a moral failure eight years ago. So stating that he will “admit nothing” is actually incorrect. Truth is the often first casuality on the internet. Above we read “I understand that many hear the gospel through PY’s crusades and thank God they do”, but in post 189 the same individual pummels him. Peter may have brought the gospel to thousands, and based on post 189 you may regard him as the very “least” of Christ’s servants, but remember, “even though you have done it to the least of these My servants, you have done it unto Me”. Tread carefully as you cast your whole bag of stones.

]]> By: REV http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/12/peter-youngren-running-out-of-grace/comment-page-4/#comment-115756 REV Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:41:22 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7159#comment-115756 Ellie, I certainly do not delight in the downfall of PY. I feel sorry for him. He has destroyed many families including his own and still will admit nothing and refuses to be reprimanded. I could start my own blog to air my dirty laundry, that doesn't bother me at all. I admit it, I am a screw up, I am not perfect and I often do the things I don't want to do or know I shouldn't do. I am just tired of people defending a man who will not admit he has some serious problems. and EC: I am not sure what you're talking about. I understand that many hear the gospel through PY's crusades and thank God they do. I understand many come to Christ through these meetings but this is not what we are talking about. For goodness sake God spoke out of the mouth of an ass to help people so I am sure people are led to Christ through PY's meetings. We are talking about the person PY is. EC read Matthew 7:21-23. Ellie, I certainly do not delight in the downfall of PY. I feel sorry for him. He has destroyed many families including his own and still will admit nothing and refuses to be reprimanded. I could start my own blog to air my dirty laundry, that doesn’t bother me at all. I admit it, I am a screw up, I am not perfect and I often do the things I don’t want to do or know I shouldn’t do. I am just tired of people defending a man who will not admit he has some serious problems.

and EC: I am not sure what you’re talking about. I understand that many hear the gospel through PY’s crusades and thank God they do. I understand many come to Christ through these meetings but this is not what we are talking about. For goodness sake God spoke out of the mouth of an ass to help people so I am sure people are led to Christ through PY’s meetings. We are talking about the person PY is. EC read Matthew 7:21-23.

]]> By: E.C. http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/12/peter-youngren-running-out-of-grace/comment-page-4/#comment-115704 E.C. Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:12:59 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7159#comment-115704 Reverend, in your comment number 189, you say "I dont care what he does personally but as a leader his actions affect others". Yes. 100% correct. Peter has gone all over the world, to Indonesia, Africa, Pakistan, and many other places to preach Jesus to thousands who had never heard the Gospel. Regardless of what he has done personally, that Gospel proclamation has affected the lives of countless people who would never otherwise have heard of Jesus Christ. They will be in heaven because of it. Your comment is very true. Regardless of what sins Peter may have committed, his actions in bringing the Gospel to far corners of the world have certainly affected others. Reverend, in your comment number 189, you say “I dont care what he does personally but as a leader his actions affect others”. Yes. 100% correct. Peter has gone all over the world, to Indonesia, Africa, Pakistan, and many other places to preach Jesus to thousands who had never heard the Gospel. Regardless of what he has done personally, that Gospel proclamation has affected the lives of countless people who would never otherwise have heard of Jesus Christ. They will be in heaven because of it. Your comment is very true. Regardless of what sins Peter may have committed, his actions in bringing the Gospel to far corners of the world have certainly affected others.

]]> By: Ellie http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/02/12/peter-youngren-running-out-of-grace/comment-page-4/#comment-115692 Ellie Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:41:57 +0000 http://www.benedictionblogson.com/?p=7159#comment-115692 Rev, regarding post 189: I'm getting memories of 1987, when Jimmy Swaggert (pre-scandal) was on Larry King Live lambasting Jim Bakker for his sexual sin, and calling for him to step down. Then a couple months later, Swaggert was also caught with his pants down. He was in sexual sin the whole time he was ripping into Bakker. Then does Jimmy follow his own advise and step down from ministry? No! He refuses to withdraw, and his AOG denimination kicks him out. What hypocricy and pride. Pride comes before a fall. Swaggert found that out in 1987. Your post #189 seems to delight in the downfall of PY. I sense the same pride I saw in Swaggert 23 years ago. Humility and sorrow would be more in order here. If you fall into sin, I'm sure we can create a blog to expose it to the world as well ... complete with the same errors, falsehoods, and contortions of the facts that run like wildfire through the internet. Rev, regarding post 189: I’m getting memories of 1987, when Jimmy Swaggert (pre-scandal) was on Larry King Live lambasting Jim Bakker for his sexual sin, and calling for him to step down. Then a couple months later, Swaggert was also caught with his pants down. He was in sexual sin the whole time he was ripping into Bakker. Then does Jimmy follow his own advise and step down from ministry? No! He refuses to withdraw, and his AOG denimination kicks him out. What hypocricy and pride. Pride comes before a fall. Swaggert found that out in 1987. Your post #189 seems to delight in the downfall of PY. I sense the same pride I saw in Swaggert 23 years ago. Humility and sorrow would be more in order here. If you fall into sin, I’m sure we can create a blog to expose it to the world as well … complete with the same errors, falsehoods, and contortions of the facts that run like wildfire through the internet.

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