Do atheists care less?

Macleans:

Last summer, Statistics Canada released a survey on Canadians and their charitable habits. While less than one in five attend church regularly, those who do are far more likely to give to charities, and are substantially more liberal in the size of their gifts to both religious and non-religious organizations. The average annual donation from a churchgoer is $1,038. For the rest of the population, $295.

With respect to volunteer effort, two-thirds of churchgoers give their time to non-profit causes while only 43 per cent of non-attendees do likewise. And churchgoers put in twice as many hours volunteering.

All this munificence is in stark contrast to complaints from anti-religion authors such as Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins and Philip Pullman, all of whom have found themselves getting substantially more ink in the wake of the Catholic Church’s sex scandals. “I’m an atheist,” Hitchens once said. “I’m not just neutral about religion, I’m hostile to it. I think it is a positively bad idea, not just a false one.” Pullman has claimed religion is “the most wonderful excuse for behaving extremely badly.” Their argument: the world would be a better place without churches.

But if religion is simply a licence for bad behaviour, how does one explain the mammoth gap between the charitable acts of those who believe and those who do not? Of more practical concern, if organized religion continues to fade from mainstream practice, how will society ever replace the massive contributions of time and money that believers currently provide?

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14 Responses to Do atheists care less?

  1. Sean says:

    I think I know two or three people who will start whining on this one.

  2. Susan says:

    It’s not how much one gives, or who can out do the other. It’s about unity. When we work together, there is a common goal. Whatever we do or give, just do our best. Because, even the atheists can’t live in a world without hope.

  3. Tim says:

    Now who would that be Sean?

  4. Torontonian says:

    . . .”Spirituality and altruism share an obvious and welcome concern for humanity and its future. Do atheists?” . . . .
    ——-

    That sentence from the article makes a drastic and dramatic assumption–that spirituality and
    altruism are the exclusive domains of the faithful.

    Even the most primitive of societies have their own understandings
    of humanity–even if those societites have no known faith. It is
    life experience that teaches and informs us, not just religion and
    faith. I’ll not say any more because I don’t like getting preachy.
    I much prefer people read and inwardly discern.
    ——
    I notice the article is not signed. Moreover it comes from a magazine
    that’s been in steady decline for the last several years.

  5. Bene D says:

    Another assumption might be is that people stick to certain faith groups or charities when giving.

  6. Marina says:

    Or perhaps atheist’s giving is spontaneous, anonymous, non-receipted and therefore unacknowledged. Perhaps giving freely without expecting something in return is such an everyday norm for those who do not ascribe to any faith group, that we don’t actually keep a tally as to how much we’ve actually given.

  7. AtheistByBirth says:

    The numerous non-faith charities and aid groups such as the Red Cross, and Amnesty International might be mentioned here. There is a long list of such organizations who work internationally.

    Charming point that several European countries with the lowest accounting of believers also have some of the highest standards of living along with the lowest crime rates on earth. Canada and the USA with huge numbers of believers have some of the world’s highest crime rates and our standards of living pale in comparison.

    The last sentence of this article is interesting: “Of more practical concern, if organized religion continues to fade from mainstream practice, how will society ever replace the massive contributions of time and money that believers currently provide?”

    Perhaps we will find, as the European example, that our standard of living will actually improve when the churches are less well attended.

    Forgive me (as good Christians are oft to do), but perhaps less churches will mean less tax exempt properties to burden the taxpayer, less tithes and offerings wasted on the likes of Benny Hinn, and The Miracle Channel, along with less interference by Christians in the promotion of the sciences, education and government. Good people will continue to do good deeds regardless of whether they are Christians.

    Perhaps Sean should have challenged atheists to do better, rather than insinuate that Christians are somehow superior because they appear to give more money to charity.

    I believe this is called pride, and is listed as a sin God really hates.

  8. Tim says:

    @ AtheistByBirth

    Please forgive me but I have to say, “AMEN brother”!

  9. Sean says:

    ABB,

    You want a challenge to do better? How about a more accurate comment? However, I will congratulate you on the achievement of having at least one person wet himself with enthusiasm. And they say that atheists aren’t religious.

    Regarding European countries and crime rate, they tend to be at the high end of the spectrum. Some are even worse than the USA, several are worse than Canada.

    That’s your argument for less church attendance? C’mon, do better.

    While you’re at it, take a look at adherance to religion and divorce rate statistics:

    ————————————
    54%, non-frequent Evangelicals
    51%, no religion (e.g., atheists & agnostics)
    48%, ALL NON-CHRISTIANS
    48%, non-frequent, other religions
    47%, frequent Black Protestants
    42%, non-frequent, mainline Protestants
    41%, ALL CHRISTIANS
    41%, non-frequent Catholics
    39%, Jews
    38%, frequent other religions
    34%, frequent Evangelicals
    32%, ALL FREQUENT CHRISTIANS
    32%, frequent mainline Protestants
    23%, frequent Catholics
    ————————————-

  10. Marina says:

    Care to cite your source for these stats Sean, and while your at it, what location were the samples taken from? (Surprising a PhD would cite stats without referencing the source.)

    Anyway, wherever you got them from, your numbers hugely differ from the George Barna study done in the States.

    http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

    Read it. All of it.

  11. AtheistByBirth says:

    @ Sean

    No problem!

    Less church attendance is related to better economic and social conditions – read and learn.

    http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html

    Just for curiosity – here is one which suggests strong belief in both God and the Devil, such as espoused by Evangelicals, is correlated with high homicide rates:

    http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2006/2006-7.html

    And just to stop those pesky wet enthusiastic issues, here’s a study which demonstrates prayer is pointless.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/health/31pray.html?_r=2

  12. Sean says:

    @ Marina,

    I’m sorry. You’re right about my laziness in citing the source.

    Try:

    http://www.edivorcepapers.com/divorce-statistics/christian-divorce-statistics.html

    These stats are from the US only. Interesting that the no-religion group (agnostics and atheists) come in at 51%. Guess you can blame the agnostics.

    Regarding pride, I don’t find these numbers anything to gloat over. God’s desire for divorce rate is 0%. The fact that they are still so high amongst his followers shows a significant lack of commitment.

  13. Hopesome says:

    Church is a state – We, the human being’ with our mind! (or lack of its discernment!) are what the church is today. We create. Therefore our creation/s are less than perfect just as we. To disown church is like disowning a member state ‘ male/female’. Church is going in some cases ‘all over the place’ in its desire for new life and truth’

    Be careful where you seek ‘ The human mind has a huge capacity to deceive itself and others’. Some of the church is goiing to more and more bizarre variations of the themes of the biblical, while others are going to the JOY of its hymns for new life ie; pop and rock !!! The overall message is getting lost as a result.

    The giver in church ie; the human being both gives and takes; Charity is somewhere in both but not enough to cover our overall lack of charity

  14. Tim says:

    @Sean

    Can you provide a more relevant site that perhaps cites sources? The site you provided is quite amateur and without quoting a source for the stats, is completely lacking in any credibility.

    I am also looking forward to your rebuttal of what was provided by AtheistByBirth.

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