A few years ago when Zoomermedia (Moses Ziemer) expressed an interest in buying Canada’s Vision TV assets, one of the downsides of the potential purchas was the red ink Christian Television Channel.
A few years ago, people with the ability to sell the none profitable Christian Television Channel showed up on a Canadian Word of Faith/Prosperity gospel evangelist’s doorstep and made a proposal he didn’t refuse. Now he is begging for a lot of money to keep his purchase on air.
Maranatha News: When did you first become aware of this opportunity to purchase The Christian Channel [from S-VOX]?
PY: December of 2007. A person, who was involved with S-VOX, though not directly employed by the company, came to my house sharing that there was a possibility of a change of ownership. I was immediately very excited about this opportunity.
Peter Youngren/World Impact Ministries re-branded his purchase Grace TV.
The purchase announcement occurred before news of his second marriage failing became public, rumours of a Finnish girlfriend, and news that  Finnish group EKM had started legal proceedings and Finnish authorities were investigating Youngren.
Youngren, who was kicked out (loss of credentials) of the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada after the failure of his first marriage, and lost his credentials with Open Bible Faith Fellowship in 2007 (that decision came to light in 2010) and the loss of his leadership role at his Celebration Niagara Church; was given what looks to me like a sweetheart deal from the CRTC with the purchase of this station and licence. In January 2009 S-Vox (Vision announced the agreement to sell to Youngren. May 2009 the CRTC approved the purchase. September 2009 the World Impact Ministries changed the name to Grace TV.
Youngren holds huge overseas crusades, even if attendees gave $1.00 I find it had to believe these overseas trips are not money making ventures for WIM which can support Grace TV.
Youngren’s son left Celebration Toronto church in December 2009, and recently announced he was running for his city municipal council. Numerous people have commented on the strained family relationship, and say attendence at the Toronto church is down since the son vacated the pulpit. There was also an acknowledged affair which occurred 8 years ago with a married church member.
Television eats money, and even good deals and solid business plans are no guarantee of success. Peter Youngren has plans to move the entire Grace TV operation to Toronto in the fall from it’s current location in St. Catharines.
He is begging Canadians for money, saying if he doesn’t get it, Grace TV is going off-air.
That’s a classic fund raising tool of other Canadian religious stations such as The Miracle Channel, Crossroads and Crossroads Television System. CTS which indicated to the CRTC they operated in a deficit position in 2009 and would be in 2010. The system ran a campaign called Our Cause which promised donors a tax receipt when they did not have a Revenue Canada Charity operating number. The campaign was pulled only after complaints by citizens to regulatory bodies. Â The Miracle Channel, which does not have some of the perks the CRTC granted has faced Young are dealing with a revenue loss of about 3 million.
GodTV (UK) is currently begging for 4 million needed by the end of May.
If you have not yet given in support, we are still appealing to the entire GOD TV family to stand with us to meet our $4 million target before the end of the month. The need is still urgent.
So what happens if Youngren doesn’t get people to cough up what he is asking for in his Red Alert?
Grace TV faces the biggest financial challenge this ministry has experienced. We must have $400,000 by June 10th and another $350,000 by June 30th. This means a total of $750,000 to be able to continue broadcasting.
Does anyone believe the station will go belly up?
The CRTC gave limited approval to the Zoomermedia application for S-Vox (VisionTV) in March 2010. This clause is interesting:
b) all of the issued and outstanding shares in the capital of Christian Channel Inc. (CCI) owned by VTV, with the primary assets owned by CCI being the CRTC licenses for the television programming undertakings CHNU-TV Fraser Valley and CIIT-TV Winnipeg, also known respectively as Joytv 10 and Joytv 11;
The CRTC granted Youngren a short lease licence as well as the opportunity to run money making programs some other Canadian religious broadcasters don’t receive, they have to hold fundraisers to stay on the air. The Grace TV licence is up for renewal August 2010. The bolding below is mine.
22. The Services Agreement sets out that VisionTV will provide management services to WIM in connection with the operation of The Christian Channel for up to five years. VisionTV would be responsible for, among other things, maintaining affiliate relations, acting as an agent for sales of airtime and advertising, and maintaining the broadcast schedule for the undertaking. The agreement states that VisionTV is subject to the direction and control of WIM in the provision of these services.
2. The licensee shall provide a national, English-language Category 2 specialty programming service devoted to balanced religious programs from a variety of Christian perspectives, as well as multi-faith programming that examines related spiritual, moral and ethical issues.
3. The programming shall be drawn exclusively from the following categories, as set out in item 6 of Schedule I to the Specialty Services Regulations, 1990, as amended from time to time:
4 Religion
12 Interstitials
13 Public service announcements
14 Infomercials, promotional and corporate videos4. Not less than 75% of all programming broadcast during the broadcast week shall be drawn from category 4 Religion.
Youngren runs multi language Grace TV/World Impact Ministries sites, where he sells product and asks for donations. World Impact Ministries is a registered Canadian Charity. He recently did a 15 city Grace TV fundraiser tour across Canada, claiming record attendance and presumably record funds.
Peter Youngren – Running out of Grace?
Christian Week looks at the world of Peter Youngren
Peter Youngren under investigation by Finnish Police – falling further from grace
EKM continuing legal proceedings against Peter Youngren
God Channel has been on the radar for some time now as to its religious intent and its means of intent! I was watching the latest ‘appeal’ , to put it politely!, for – ‘beloved’ – your cash!!! over this last week and am wondering that – IF THE LORD IS OMNIPRESENCE why would he need to reap from his people in order to’get his message across! – The ‘battle for the ‘air ways’! is in full swing it seems.
Is it bad management that leaves them four million in debt, I thought for surely the lord would prevent that! If they walked with him, were intimate with him and ‘walked in his prescence!!!
So…………………………..
Higher in HOPE seems to get us deeper in DEBT…………….
Hold on to your ‘purse Canada’!!!
Otherwisw we might end up being run by muppets!!!!! like GOD Channel – sorry I couldn’t resist that!
Sorry but my Lord doesn’t get us to beg – he takes us to a place where we don’t need to.
It’s interesting that he can do 25% infomercials on those new channels.
A lot of “religious” programming is essentially an infomercial for tapes and books the host is hawking; I recall Gaither Vocal Group shows on one of the Christian channels which had ads for their tapes after every other song, which essentially made the show an infomercial.
I wonder if Youngren’s appeal is against the CRTC Religious Broadcasting Policy 1993-78 which states the following:
The Commission expects all licensees to comply with strict provisions regarding the solicitation of funds. In particular, the Commission expects that the wording and tone of any solicitations for funds shall not:
– be alarmist in suggesting that the program may be discontinued in the absence of such a response;
In consideration of Youngren’s opening and closing statements, “Grace TV faces the biggest financial challenge this ministry has experienced. We must have $400,000 by June 10th and another $350,000 by June 30th. This means a total of $750,000 to be able to continue broadcasting. ” and “Remember, we only have till June the 10th. I must hear from you.”, perhaps they could be considered “alarmist”.
There’s only one way to find out and that’s by issuing a complaint with the CRTC and see what they find.
Any takers?
If so, here’s the place to file the complaint:
http://crtc.gc.ca/RapidsCCM/Register.asp?lang=E
You know, I really felt “lead” to help, but looks like “the lord” wasn’t willing to let Peter accept my $10,000.00 donation.
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I think ‘red alert’ is alarmist.:^)
I like what Hopesome said:
‘Hold on to your ‘purse Canada’
I’ve been following the fund raising methods used by Grace TV over the past year. One thing I’ve noticed which always happens is this:
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They start off with a deadline by which a given amount of money must be received. Then as the deadline approaches, and it starts becoming apparent that Grace TV isn’t going to reach the financial goal previously noted — the so-called “deadline” suddenly starts becoming fuzzy and/or flexible. This is exactly what they are doing right now with their “$400,000 by June 10th deal”. Now Youngren has been saying (June 10th), that he cannot tell the public just how much money has or hasn’t been raised … but that they would have to wait ANOTHER WEEK for him to be able to tell the public … and in that extra time span of course money can still be sent in to apply towards the “deadline” that has obviously passed.
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Another little trick they like to use is to publicly broadcast how much money they are raising toward a specific goal, and when it becomes apparent things aren’t going well … they completely stop letting on how much money is being donated.
Phillip: Thanks for keeping track.
- deadline
- five alarm ‘red alert’ dither
- wow, x number of people are responding
- oh, we don’t know how much we raised
- the next deadline is looming
- keep it inhouse, interview your own people over and over because most outside Christians have figured out how crass. self-focused and intimidating Grace TV fundraisers are
I watched some of this fundraiser, it’s circular formulaic manipulation and I sincerely hope people wake up.
There is no accountability, no transparency, the staff looks stressed and exhausted.
Grace TV is pushing boundaries on the CRTC religious broadcasting policy and they know they can get away with it.
Grace TV could be gone tomorrow and I have to ask myself if Canadians would miss it. I can’t think of any reasons why we would.
Hello, well it’s June 30, and no hints of how
the money raising did.
Does anyone know?
Thanks
Hi Kellie:
I’ll fire this off from the top of my head and correct the numbers once I’ve re-checked if I’m wrong.
I see Youngren is running a tree planting money raiser.
I have not watched it.
I remember seeing several years ago many of these were a scam.
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/13673/jnf-downplays-criticism-in-midst-of-israel-tree-scandal/
To the Grace TV June appeal.
The payments (for purchase) were re-negotiated. Youngren says he went to the ‘secular’ media without a lawyer just prior to the June 10th deadline.
$400,000.00 purchase payment due.
Youngren did not say what was worked out with creditors and what was paid off
- 1 million of the 4.19 million purchase price has supposedly been paid off
- There are supposedly 5000 of the 10 thousand people Youngren wanted giving to Grace TV but he wasn’t clear on partners or one timers
- Grace TV need people to give 215 thousand a month
- $311,300 of the $750,000 requested was supposedly given in the first two weeks of June
- 931 people supposedly give monthly, Grace TV wants and says they need 5000 people giving each month
That leaves the second appeal of June 30/10 – operating costs.
http://www.gracetelevision.net/watch/25949
- Operating costs are over 4.7 million a year
- 392 thousand needed each month for operations
- $350,000.00 back owing in operating costs
- The current deficit is 80 thousand a month
-73 thousand short of back operational appeal
Did Grace raise the supposed 73 thousand (?) to meet the owed operating costs?
Can Grace TV get to break even on monthly operating costs?
What purchase payments are upcoming which need to be met?
Hi Bene, I guess Grace Tv is still on the air.
But there is no thanks, nor acknowledgment to the contributors.
No job well done.
And yet on the 1st of July, he requests 100,000 trees at $30 a piece.
That’s $3 million.
I’m 19 but not naive. I love the Lord and His Bible.
Where does one go to suggest a discrepancy?
There is something not right here.
I trust you’ve seen Don Stewart or Peter Poppoff.
This is starting to look the same, yet with some subtleness.
Hi kellie:
It is. And it won’t be a surprise if there is a July appeal, an August appeal, a September appeal..:^)
The ‘Biblical Forest’ – for farmers – oh man. It’s associated with Gil Travel-R.J. Gosselin (Hinn, Haggee etc)
Quite the racket.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2000-07-03/news/0007030194_1_jewish-national-fund-planted-saplings
Wonder if they offer a cheaper rate than The Miracle Channel or Crossroads for a trip to Israel? And another .925 sterling silver trinket for the very faithful.
World Impact Ministries staff are part of the audience as well at TO Celebration Church staff.
There was a thank you mid-June when the first deadline passed.
That’s probably all donors are going to get, Grace TV can’t keep begging in a saturated market.
Good people have tried to reason with Youngren.
They’ve had enough sense to walk away.
You can’t negotiate with narcissists who believe they speak for God. Well, you can if you have a TV station to sell them, and they have messed up lives they need to get away from.
Youngren will have to hit bottom, hopefully some people will read online resources about what is going on and make wise decisions to contribute elsewhere.
I have’t seen Don Stewart but I have seen Poppoff. If it hadn’t been for dedicated bloggers at The Miracle Channel Review he’d still have a Canadian charity licence.
Grace TV is getting less subtle isn’t it?
Inside information (reliable source) tells that “Grace TV” is on the brink of bankruptcy. Lets see what scheme PY conspires next to try to milk more money.
When Vision TV had the Christian Channel (now Youngren’s Grace TV) they operated it at a lose of 1.2 million a year. Vision TV was better positioned than the other religious channels financially because their percentage of revenue from donors was small. ( I think it was about 15% to Crossroads 40%)
While Grace TV has been given flexibility in raising revenue, operating costs aren’t going to be met by donors.
I don’t expect Grace TV to fold because Youngren has things to prove. I may be wrong.
Few people would miss it if it disappeared tomorrow. I wouldn’t count it out yet, planned expantion into other markets (Canada’s Global Gospel Voice) would enable it to limp along in a economic losing position for quite awhile.
Hi, for what it’s worth, Peter’s 1PM time slot on Vision Tv
is over on the 31st of July
Interesting that the afternoon Vision TV slot is done. Could this possibly be just for the summer, or, are more resources required for Grace TV?
I have seen posts at other sites indicating that Mr. Youngren owns properties in exotic foreign lands, including the Cayman Islands. If indeed that is the case, perhaps he will begin liquidating those next. Does anyone have any information/links on where those property holdings are?
I wonder if the Vision TV buy merely ended, and the new owner of Vision TV chose not to renew or whether Grace TV made the choice.
We’ll see. I’ll believe it when I see the show off the schedule.
Rumours of Youngren having offshore accounts have floated around for years.
I doubt any regulatory body cares enough to have a look. Youngrens purchase of Grace TV that might change those dynamics, but I don’t think anyone is holding their breath.
It would be helpful if the public had a definitive answer.
Due to his (PYs) self-induced, self-inituated separation from his second wife – he has probably made sure that any wealth (funds) are well protected and hidden, so that he will not need to pay out compensation.
If it is true that he had been planning this separation for a long time, then he has no doubt taken precautions to protect himself. This is all in harmony with the nature of a narcissistic personality. Time will show where this will all end.
It is my understanding people who work for Youngren don’t know about finances, information is compartmentalized. If that is the case then someone who has worked for him and does know will have to go to the appropriate regulators. Since information is compartmentalized, there wouldn’t be too many people in the inner financial circle so disclosure and public transparency becomes a catch-22.
Agreed, time will tell.
I know that PY has a few million dollars in bank accounts in Sweden and England.
This information is from employees that worked for WIM in the past.
I wonder if he is declaring worldwide income on his Canadian tax return or reporting foreign property holdings each year on his T1. If anyone has knowledge to the contrary they should contact the Canada Revenue Agency.
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/gncy/nvstgtns/lds-eng.html
Generally speaking, the measure of one’s wealth is dependent on the lack of others. If you had all of the money in the world, what would it be worth then? Think about it, This is a very legitimate question indeed! A question to be asked especially by “snake oil sales men”, aka TV Evangelists. and those who use humanity for their financial wealth . Having all of the money in the world,would be worth nothing…knowing other people are struggling & suffering, for lack of it.
I see money as just a tool to perform transactions, whereas those who have inflationary egos ( like some people we know) driven by money, view money as a commodity that needs to be accumulated without end, so that their egos could be fed. Problem is, they don’t realize that their egos are a false image/representation of their true selves. This is up for debate.
Grace TV is still looks like one big infomercial for Youngren’s products. He appears desperate in his attempts to keep the ship from sinking. Sad thing is that he may take many, along with their money, down with him.
Good, just wanted first to make sure that it was working…now on to my comment:
Well Mr. Youngren’s divorce went thru, and he just announced to his fooled congregration that HE IS GETTING MARRIED YET AGAIN.!!!!!! This makes victim, sorry, rather wife number 3!!!! Ya, I am sure that when his divorce was finalized he met someone new so quickely, fell in love and felt that for sure this is the love of his life and decided that he will marry her…..No…..when he was married to sweet Roxanne, whom I knew personally, Peter had yet another affair, Roxanne found out about it and kicked is sorry ass to the curb! Yet there are still a hand full of congragants who have stood with him from the beginning of TICC, believing his every word! I pray now for every person who believes in the lies Peter has said and the scams that he scamed, for the naive people who are at TICC, that the spirit of wisdom of God, to fall upon them, that their eyes be opened to see the truth. I pray the Ephesians chapter one over ever single one of them who still believe the lies that Peter spews. Dear Lord God, bring down your justice, I pray….Amen.
Truth and Grace:
Do you have an audio of that announcement available or a copy of a bulletin or newsletter?
When did he speak to the congregation?
Were you present at the church?
I can appreciate your hurt and anger for the Youngren family and your friends, the Youngren family has been through enough – I’d be grateful if you would source this information for me.
I agree a lot of people are in the dark about Youngren’s behavior. I can’t post an announcement about wife to be number 3 without a source.
Thanks.
Bene Diction:
Yes I was present when this announcement was made….it was about 2 or 3 weeks ago, when I went to see an old TICC friend, so I go take them for coffee and try and make them realize what is really going on. Well, I did not need to speak much, as Mr Youngren said it all with his announcement to remarry. They had enough after that. He also stated that there will be some negative things said on the internet, and that he can’t force us to love him, and that we, the congration, can’t expect him to be single for the rest of his life….other things too were said, but hearing this ‘bomb’ I forgot the whining he did, most of it, but he did in some way mention that the door is there if anyone didn’t like it….this is not word for word, I was too shocked to get an exact quote after that, but he did try and manipulate and whine abit afterwards. It was not written in the bulliten and don’t know if it was televised….I from experience, he does not record or televise these ‘family moments’. But I am a witness, that heard it directely from the source. And since I attended, I have been getting Youngren wants money, mail again…….oh yeay…..someone must of saw me and thought I was foolish enough to be attending there again. His WHOLE Grace message was/is to manipulate people into forgiving him, for leading an extreamly immoral lifestyle. His own fellowship cut ties with him, as they knew far before we did, what was/is going on. I suppose if you were to call his offices and ask or congratulate him on his marriage number 3, you will hear the truth yourself. This is big news, and I know that it is hard to post something that isn’t or can’t be sourced…..he made it that way…..I am sure AFTER he gets married, he will announce it to the world, guess he’s have to then, that he is yet married again….and so quickly too! PS. I am not such an angry person that would make up stuff about Youngren….I am not that kind of person or Christian. But I do think people do need to know, especially when he is pleading for people’s hard earned money. It is sooo sad, for so many people, including Roxanne, who is such a solid Christian, raised his kids up, made time for people, and just all around wonderful person. My prayers go out to her and her family, and I ask for others to please pray for them too, the innocent by standers who got in the way of Mr. Peter Youngren. Please pray, thank you and bless you to the fullest!
TruthAndGrace:
Thank you. I do appreciate your response.
I did contact Toronto, Niagara, WIM and Grace TV.
Niagara responded without answering the question, and I have to admit I laughed. They are trying to move on after the affair, the public acknowledgement a professional organization dropped him, a police investigation, and divorce; and as far as I’m concerned at least Niagara Celebration Church took the time to acknowledge an email. It’s been my experience that whenever I write WIM or Grace TV with a question concerning something going into a post, they will not respond. Reminds me of an ostrich.
I do hope if congregants were told were the door is, they walk through it and keep going.
I respect your regard for the Youngren family, they deserve better than what they have been dealt, and they need our prayers.
And I agree with you that people do need to be aware of what is going on.
Informed choices are important.
You piqued my interest with this: “He also stated that there will be some negative things said on the internet…”
I know asking for sourced information may seem like a personal slight and I apologize if that’s how my current reticence comes across.
This blog is not the only outlet looking for facts – Mr. Youngren has reason to be concerned information may be published elsewhere.
Thanks for your concern, but I was not slightest in the least….I know you must get your facts straight and not just get opinions, and since this blog is open to anyone to write here, anyone could write here, and there are some less than scruplious ‘anyones’ out there, who are really ‘out-there’ LOL.
Mr. Youngren, always likes to stay a step ahead, so he tried to prepare the congragants of ‘negative things being said about him’, as a manipulation tool, and for people to feel sorry for him, as he has had it oh so rough…..not….He knows that there are many sources of the truth out here is cyberspace, about what he is doing. And yes, I do agree with you that informed decisions are so important….this is the ONLY reason I write here about what is going on…people need to know, it is not judging, it is simply fact. Actually the NT does have some rules about ‘not eating with a fornicator or adultorer’ etc. my spouse made a good point that “How much worse is it to have The Lord’s Table with such a head of a church! The Bible does instruct all of us Christians to ‘evaluate’ situations, like what is going on at TICC and the other organizations Mr. Youngren heads up and others like him…..If there was only the internet in the time of “Jone’s Town” perhaps at least one would not have gone to their deaths, cause Jim Jones told them to do it, cause God apparently told him to do it. Yes…we do need to evaluate and be informed.
Well, as stated a few days ago or so, Peter Youngren is very antsy about all of his deceptions, fornications, manipulations, lies and so on and so forth, that he actually put on the TICC website that he is getting unjustly attacked by people. He cannot even tell the truth on this blurb, I laughed cause it is just sooo easy to find the truth. He stated that he doens’t know anyone behind this attack, except for some guy in Europe, who refuses to confront Peter himself. This guy Peter says is the ONLY one that he knows of. WELL…..there have been Pastor’s and heads of organizations who have openly come out and told the truth about him. They did it in a biblical way, they first went to Peter himself and so on. One person who openly told us all the truth about what Youngren is doing, is Cimentaro, sorry I probably have the spelling incorrect, however he is from the “Open Bible Faith Fellowship”, to which Peter Youngren belonged. Cimentaro in an article, openly stated that they, had to cut all ties Peter, for an unbiblical divorce, along with other things that Peter had done, and took away Peter’s ministerial credentials, amongst others . This article is still on the Web from CHRISTIAN WEEK, and if I am not mistaken, it can be found on Bene Diction too, where anyone can look this up very easily. Pastor Cimentaro and his wife have a church in Windsor and would love to belong to that church, but it is unfortunately too far. So it is worth checking these things out. I just couldn’t believe that Peter lied in print, about something that is so easy to find out that he is a liar. Many people, including myself, have gone to him and inquired about some important issues, and there is at least one Pastor and member of OBFF, that has publicly told the truth about Youngrens deceptions and evil ways, and immediately cut off all ties with Peter. And again, Cimentaro is not in Europe, he is here in Ontario openly warning people about Youngrens evil ways. Peter’s blog is on the TICC website dated September 1st. He must be getting nervous that the truth is coming out more and more. And that his charity status is in jeopardy, which would then mean to Peter that there will be less money coming into his wallet. Please, keep your heart and eyes open, and don’t be deceived.
Hi Truth and Grace:
Both ChristianWeek and BDBO covered OBFF’s statement. Rick Ciaramitaro originally left the statement here at BDBO.
I’ve responded to Mr. Youngren’s post – “Internet Liars” here. Ironically the only two blogs carrying Mr. Youngren’s opnion about people who comment or write online about him are his blog at WIM and BDBO.:^)
Early on in today’s program, Nathan Thurber and Peter Youngren were standing in the ‘Grace Prayer Center’. While talking about the donations coming in, Nathan had made the implication, based upon an alleged testimony, that if someone partners up with them (i.e. agree to send them money on a regular monthly basis), you can have your cure from cancer.
It’s time to wake up, people.
Forgot the link –
http://www.gracetelevision.net/watch/53078
Nathan Thurber’s comments are within the first three minutes.
Funny, but in the Bible, Jesus healed people out of love, whether they ‘partnered’ with him financially or not … because God is a God who loves people, and it isn’t based at all on what we do or don’t do.
Do you have God’s Fraud Squad’s contact info ?
Hi; Many of your articles on this sight are very in formative, though very often, you have a lot of miss information. I laughed when I read that you thought that Peter youngren was making money on his overseas evangelistic meetings. I have worked with Peter Youngren many times over the last 20 years and have seen him win hundreds of thousands to Christ! While he may break even financially in places like Singapore, his outreaches in places like India , Kenya, Congo, and Indonesia, cost him tens of thousands of dollars, with very little coming back in the offering. The pastors and leaders meetings cost even more, with food and housing provided for many poor pastors. You can say what you want about Peter Youngren, as it is normal for those that are doing little or nothing for the gospel to criticize those that are.
It has always been my experience that Peter Youngren has a genuine love for lost souls, and is above reproach in the area of finances.! Sincerely David Braasch
Hi David:
I’m interested in your last sentence. While I don’t believe Youngren makes a fortune off his oversea trips, he keeps taking them so the money comes from somewhere.
I’m also aware that his lodging isn’t extravagent.
Have you seen his books? Even people who work closely with him and say they know him admit they don’t know the bottom lines on costs and returns.
Whoa! I didn’t know Christians were still thrown to the lions….and by their (supposed) fellow Christians…..for the secular world to see, into the bargain. All I can say is:
“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone…….” (John 8:7)
i am disgusted with the lies these minister say jesus never asked for money to spread the word of god yet they keep the money donated to themselves CRA will eventuaaly catch up with them and god will strike them with the hand of justice the Thurbers should be also investigated for their involvement of decieving good minded church goers
Hi pappy, God has become a business. There’s a ton of money to be made from the Lord and most TV preachers including Mr. Youngren are quite well off because of it. But as long as there are supporters who do not question, nothing will change. Mr Youngren asked today for 100 people to give $10,000. And every day is the same.
My concern has been the support of Muslims shown by Youngren. Today, when listening to his interview of the lady who has published 3 books recently, Youngren really supported Alah groups and told the lady she had no right to publish things Youngren felt were critical of Muslim beliefs. It is well known that the Muslim faith is antichrist. We can not support them in any way.
Therefor, I am removing my monthly financial support of this antichrist supporter… Youngren.
I can’t believe some of you call yourselves “Christians”. If you think by coming on the internet to spread negativity, gossip and to rant and rave you are securing your spot in The Kingdom you are sadly incorrect. Take that energy and spread the gospel of Jesus Christ.
1 John 4:8
Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
Yes my fellow “Christians”….you are to LOVE EVERYONE! Oh yes EVEN MUSLIMS!
“But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Toss this man made religion crap aside and love as Our Heavenly Father does!
I will pray for all of you to change your sickening attitudes and have The Lord reveal to you what the Blessing and His Unmerited Favour really represent.
Hello Stacey, I don’t think anyone here is raving. They voice their opinions just as you have. No one here hates Muslims that I can see and actually they have a great role to play before the return of Jesus. It’s in the Bible, give it a read. Our Lord has laid His plans all out for all of us to see!
Be Well!
Kellie