By Rick Hiebert. All Rights Reserved. Used by Permission.
What’s the agenda for The Cry Ottawa rally later this month? Depends on when you heard Faytene Grasseschi talk about it, I guess.
As has been mentioned before, Faytene Grasseschi (the former Faytene Kryskow), is planning a major rally of conservative christian youths on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, on August 27.
I had heard Faytene talk about her plans for the event on July 23 at the concluding event of the Awakening Love Fest conference in Surrey B.C.. So, now that I have a moment to report on what she said, I was pleased to see, earlier today [August 4] that Faytene Grasseschi has just posted a promotional video for The Cry Ottawa on YouTube.
However, now that I have watched the video and relistened to my tape of the Love Fest event, I am a little puzzled.
In each of her descriptions of the goals, it’s not as if she is describing a rally in one and a bake-off in the other. It’s just that Faytene has a very curious way of nuancing and talking about her goals when you compare the “in public” version [the YouTube video] and the more private version that I saw [where the public was allowed in, yes, but she thought she was talking to an audience that she presumed thinks pretty much as she does].
Faytene takes Christ’s admonition to be “as wise as serpents” and runs with it.
An example that jumps out at me…
In The YouTube video, Faytene is talking about a proposed UN resolution in September, which she believes will take away land from Israel to a Palestinian state.
She is talking about why it is important to pay about this at The Cry, when at 3:02 of the video she says that this is a decision “….that could, no matter what you believe or think about that scenario, that could trigger a war in the Middle East. And the Bible is really clear about this, that we need to pray for the peace of Jerusalem.”
You could read this language as somewhat neutral, just wanting the two sides to settle their problems peacefully. No one wants war, right?
She reinforces her tone, by suggesting that Canada’s purpose as a country is to bring about healing amongst the nations. “One way that we can bring healing is to pray…We’re going to pray for the healing of the nations.”
I will be returning to this, but for now, I’ll note that Faytene’s other goals for The Cry Ottawa include praying for economic turnaround in the United States. She says “…and it’s time for us to get over any anti-American sentiment we have and become our brother’s keeper.”
Other speakers and prayer times at The Cry Ottawa, she says in the video, will address upcoming nominees to the Supreme Court of Canada, First Nations issues, human trafficking (including some remarks from the current Miss Canada) and “life issues” such as abortion.
It makes a great deal of sense, that Faytene would have always planned to have several issues in play, as she did at The Cry Vancouver. But when I heard her describe The Cry just a week and a half ago in Surrey, Faytene’s sense of what was crucial at this upcoming rally was somewhat different.
In the past week and a half Faytene may have changed her thinking and priorities about The Cry Ottawa, which is quite possible. But given what she said in Surrey, I wonder if that is probable. I’ll share what she said then, so you can wonder too.
Back on July 23, Faytene mentioned the need to have God work in regards to the upcoming UN motion she fears.
Remember how neutral and perhaps moderate Faytene may sound in today’s video? A week and a half ago, she sounded–to put it mildly–that she has picked sides in favour of Israel on behalf of The Cry Ottawa.
Faytene then said [emphasis mine]:
“The very first agenda item that we have discerned that we are to pray for Israel and to contend fervently that our Prime Minister will continue to stand [in a friendly policy towards Israel] and having done all to stand. We’re going to be interceding for a spirit of courage to come upon our Prime Minister because of the upcoming [UN] motion that is coming down the pike.”
To be fair to Faytene, “very first” may not mean the most important–this could be merely the first of a series of roughly equal priorities.
However, to be fair to her audience, she should have said in her promo video today that she is pro-Israel and wants Canadians to be the same way.
[My concern here is with honesty. It's unfair to lead pro-Palestinian Christians think that The Cry Ottawa will be moderate on this question, when Faytene--speaking to a friendlier audience--demonstrates that she has picked a side.]
The next priority for The Cry Ottawa that she talked about at the July 23 conference is not mentioned in her promotional video of today.
On July 23, Faytene said:
“The second thing that we are going to do there is pray for America to be strong and stand in support of Israel, which will be an act of God. That will be an act of God. The Congress, by and large, is pro-Israel, but the President sure isn’t. And so, we need to pray for the United States of America, like never before, specifically on this issue.”
After Faytene led prayer for Israel, a young lady named Georgina came up to make prophetic-style declarations about The Cry Ottawa. I don’t know if she is one of her interns, but she talks like a mini-Faytene.
Declaring that “Abortion is finished!” and “Immorality is finished!”, Georgina went on to later say “It’s the dread champions that are going to stand up on the [Parliament] Hill! And God said to these dream champions that ‘You need to pursue, you need to overtake, and you need to recover all, because it [the evils she mentioned] is finished!”
“Dread Champions” is NAR-speak for the “Joel’s Army” that will take over the world so that Jesus may return. Grammatically, “these dread champions” would refer to the previous mention, those who “stand on the Hill” at The Cry. So this is a reference to The Cry Ottawa being dominionist in intent, so far.
In an earlier post on The Cry Ottawa, I had been wondering out loud whether Faytene and her allies felt a need to remind the Tories that they were only conditionally supporting the party. I think what Faytene said next might be alluding to this.
Faytene got the mike back and said that The Cry Ottawa needed to get people mobilized again.
“…It’s only a month away, honestly, so we need to mobilize the nation a break off–there’s been a sleepy spirit over us. It’s almost like since the government shift, there’s been this spirit of complacency that’s come on. We need to shake it off. We need to shake it off. We’re living serious times and we need to pray, and we’re the answer. And the glory of God is going to break out and we are going to see the dream of God manifested in our time, as we show up, okay? You are The Cry. Take the posters and spread them around…”
No pressure, eh? 
Well, I’ll pray that good things come of the rally. But, so far, it seems to me that that would be despite some of the intentions of Faytene and her friends, not because of them.
Being coy to the public, and fire-breathing among friends, is not a good start.
“somewhat” in the headline is a correction. I can spell all right , but I am not profiient at touch-typing.
Hi Rick:
Good post – I’m known for my typos – ran it through the spell checker for you.
The statement about anti-Americanism is channelling Pat King’s beef King started when she moved to Arizona. The spoken assumption is that Canadian Christians do not pray for the US, and that as a nation and as individuals we do not offer our help as our brothers keepers.
Rick wrote about the prophecy that Faytene has made her hook for her events – Canada as a healing nation. She’s gotten a lot of mileage out of that.
Righteous judges is a classic NAR 7 mountain mandate theme hammered daily in the US by the religious right, no surprise that theme has been picked up for this Cry.
Rick Perry (R-Texas governor) has done the citizens of the US a favour by holding a fasting and prayer rally in Houston today (Saturday). The Response is being run by The American Family Association )an SPLC labelled hate group and populated by NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) apostles and adherents (including Lou Engel who was the key speaker at the last Cry Faytene held). He is expected to announce his bid for a presidental run soon, and having NAR take over The Response agenda has caused US media to notice how fringe NAR is. People who have never heard of dominionists or Joels Army/Third Wave etc. are getting a crash course in the 7 mountain mandate and the wedding of right wing politics and neo-charismatics. Reliant Stadium in Houston is being used for Perry’s event and about 5 thousand signed up to attend. The event will probably be anti-climatic compared to the media coverage of NAR characters, there has been an understandable concern raised in the US about a sitting governor and possible presidential candidate inviting these ‘apostles’ to share a stage with him. The AFA sent out a memo asking the right wingers to abide by certain rules, but like The Cry being an all day event, I’ve no doubt some of them will revert back to character.
It’s interesting that The Response language is really no different than Faytenes, with ‘historic breakthrough,crossroads, shifts, righteousness, solemn assembly, etc. Same dominionist/theocratic/NAR meanings too.
I wonder which politicians will put in an appearance at the Ottawa Cry?
Could you imagine the outcry in Canada if a premier attempted to do what Perry is doing? He or she would be a one term wonder.
Thanks for adding the graphic, running the speller and the kind words Bene D.
It’s interesting that BD referenced Patricia King’s “anti-American” beefs, as she talked about it at length At the Awakening Love Fest two weeks ago. I hope tp get a post up on that in the next few days.
Great article, Rick! Thanks for the update.
Going beyond the political, I just want to touch upon a couple of spiritual issues:
Well first of all, I think most people claiming a born-again experience, simply don’t comprehend the fullness of Biblical prophecy. If one believes the Bible, then we do know that certain things are going to happen as we come closer to the return of the Lord Jesus Christ. The ‘antichrist’ and the dividing of the land is one such event.
So why do ‘evangelical’ Christians get hysterical – why do they get their knickers in such a twist – when they see God’s word actually coming to pass? Is it because they are too dense to understand it’s SUPPOSED to come to pass? Why the surprise?
Secondly, while I fully support Israel (in deed as well as in word), I am nevertheless troubled by the myopic stance taken by many evangelicals today, who naively think Israel can do no wrong … and the Arab world can do nothing right. And in doing this, they automatically – whether they are aware of it or not – develop a bitter prejudice against the Arab peoples … most of whom are merely pawns in this game.
I would remind everyone that the Arab people have just as much a right to hear the Good News of how much God loves ALL mankind – without prejudice – as was made abundantly clear in the person of Jesus Christ. But if you are so ‘evangelically hot to trot’ against them … you never give them the opportunity to hear that message! You are too busy viewing them as being the enemy!
Another issue in the myopic stance taken by many evangelicals today, can be found within their interpretation of Genesis 12: 3 …. which Hagee and many others say is referencing the nation of Israel. But it is not! The Genesis 12: 3 scripture verse is a Messianic prophecy, which points to Jesus Christ.
I’ll step down from my soap box now … (LOL)
Gong Show!!!!
Wake up Canada before its too late! I find the video a bit sickly for my taste – like the rest of the NAR’s they’re soooooo trying to convince us of their good intentions:
Hidden Agendas all of them!
If you get the NARs in government then god help us there will be an unholy war judging by some of the rhetoric flying around in that camp!
Don’t let us forget what FREE WILL really means ‘the freedom to choose – you don’t have free will if someone veiled in fascination ‘calls you in’ to its allure!! and accompanies it with romantic worship music!! you are a dead ringer for its sweet alluring balm’s – COME FOLLOW ME —
has trapped many an unsuspecting ‘NEED
What really is Canadas NEED I wonder – To be ‘rapture’d by the senses in worship or ‘raptured’ out of absolute horror so that he can help you overcome its death knolls. We in Britain have lost billions in the stock market – Britain needs to be raptured out of hell and into hope – I would like to see ‘their’ likes achieve that!! They say Nero fiddled while ‘rome’ burned! Italy time to wake up – Its a good opportunity to throw Jesus at us and there are those that are using his name to cover theirs and do just that …………… the hypocrisy ; makes me vomit ………………
Sorry but sweet words just don’t cut it for me! no matter who’s sweet lips they fall from
Jesus is so much more than the paltry words they atribute him with and of……….. it grieves me to see him brought down time and again to mans level of ‘crap’……… seduction and hope………….
I noticed Faytene talks really fast on the video.
Rick Heibert’s comment about Faytene Kryskow Grasseschi being coy to the public and fire-breathing among friends sounds true.
She’s a two faced hypocrite fire breathing dragon
Good response, Hopesome:
You are absolutely right … they aren’t preaching the real Jesus … because if they were doing so it would require them to turn away from self-focus. Which most of these high profile ‘ministers’ would never consider doing.
By the way, Faytene … and for the record:
We are NOT called to exalt Jesus over a nation — but rather, we are called to bring the Good News of Jesus Christ TO the nations (of the world).
Faytene,….”double face”….just like all NAR,s
Are not Jesus Christ and his followers to have humility?
Humility and the fruits of the spirit are important
The full armour of God
Letting the Holy Spirit speak to us through the Word of God
God the Father, Son, Holy Spirit
The Word is God the Word is with God
God is the Judge
If you have any government that flies a flag no matter what the name, cause or denomination sooner or later they are going to get ‘up the nose’ of one or other of the said name, cause or denomination – The christian ‘would be’ government is a red flag to the muslim community, plus – you are united by love they say – but the rhetoric speaks of war not love, the love is love of self and position and power – You are right they won’t lay down self – Their love is only deep enough to acheive their needs.
Spot on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an7TaDQ5Yo0&feature=related
a discussion about keeping religion outside of politics. please take the time to watch the entire video; andrew sullivan (beginning 1:58) makes the case using jesus’ statement, “…my kingdom is not of this world…”.
The general ‘speak’ by the likes of Joyner, Palin and Co., is that Obama is trash – Faytene was listed as being an attendee at one of the conferences (prophetic voices gathering type thing !)that Joyner and his cronies were organising (so I read somewhere) – Opposition has always been in attendance when it comes to politics and most nations have that phenomenon – Now Bush was a ‘card carrying christian’ and made a complete ass of his and Americas standing whilst he was in government to the climax of shoes being thrown at him! Obama has become a target because he stands as something that they can’t quite get a grip of: So out of the woodwork comes the PROPHETIC – which is conveniently presented in such a way that it justifies along with their interpretations of the ‘word’ all they are trying to achieve. It creates a pro ie: a for and against atmosphere which is what we should be trying to overcome not promote. This pro Israel really gets to Iran + and to me actually : Surely you don’t show favour or favouritism it merely creates more division among us. Faytene has this ‘poor things’ veil that she walks in, a sympatico which frankly rings hollow and if you want to heal the holocaust then you don’t hang on to its wounds by being pro this or pro that: We have all suffered each and every one of us and yet we still hang on to the mud of war and sickness that created it as if we have begun to enjoy the trauma and butchery of it all. They walk ‘yes in the name of Jesus’ but his name covers their multitude of sins, they have yet to let him in to tackle them!!!
Christianity will not save the world – will not stop abortion – nor will it overcome evil, its just a flag they fly under! There is a place for abortion if lives are at risk – a decision that in its self is heartbreaking enough without the condemnation of do-gooders opinions – If I was in that position myself I would have to ‘fight’ through my conscience’, fight through my beliefs, fight through my upbringing and fight on through death and the ‘lifehereafter’ (so called) until I had all the answers to bring into play that which I knew to be a truth and not just someones opinions: I have seen many children abused by ‘not being wanted’ – it strikes fear in the heart to witness it, time we got our own conscience instead of listening to someone elses! When I lost a child I never rested until I had all the answers not just those that appease, not just those that ‘feel ok’ not just those that would have allowed me to nestle somewhere in someone elses hopes: All the answers came – It was laid to rest and I moved on. Truth hurts thats why we try and avoid its sting, but evil will prevail if we don’t start standing up to the filth, deprivation, sickness and depravity that wraps itself around us and calls its name ‘love’. Whatever happen’d to love thy neighbour Faytene – at least have some respect for Obama – and don’t be led by the NAR’s consensus that hes crap you should look a little closer to home for that!!! as should we all, and make sure we clean up our own backyard before we end up dumping in someone elses.
god is coming back to a bride that is wearing army boots-Pat Cocking…Faytene,s mentor
A number of people are concerned about that UN Palestinian declaration, not just Faytene; that being said, that philosemitic evangelical quadrant will likely be going ballistic over it.
Bene, on the SPLC calling AFA a hate group, they have started to label many of the theocon usual suspects as such, which is term inflation, since the SPLC’s stock in trade in the past has been to cover white-supremacists and neo-Nazi types who really earn the title. There is quite a bit of hateful bile towards liberals on AFA radio broadcasts (I don’t hit their web site and surf away from their radio stations when in the South), but effectively putting them in the same bucket as Nazis and skinheads is over the top.
Hi all – just found this blog. Look foward to having a look around.
I was at the cry, what an amazing powerful day!
Hi wazup:
Amazingly powerful day in what ways?